HaroldRocks
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coco is inert...but i see what you're saying...i think peat is considered inert also or at least close to it....whatever tho who cares 
Pole: what do you guys think of 50/50 soil and coco?
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PJ Diaz
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Peat has some micronutes, so it’s not quite inert but almost.coco is inert...but i see what you're saying...i think peat is considered inert also or at least close to it....whatever tho who cares
HaroldRocks
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right......but you're just trying to be technical about it so you can say that you're right and he's wrong, when in all reality, you couldn't grow in either straight coco or straight peat without some sorta food right?
so ya know...it's still whatever man
PJ Diaz
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I was simply explaining why peat wouldn't be considered inert, even though it practically is.
getogrow
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coco has k in it. Im pretty sure. I think it even has to be washed out before use. Its holds water GREAT. it hold bacteria GREAT. its not inert.
twentyeight.threefive
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Just because you disagree, that doesn't make you correct lol. You have a ton of websites to contact to let them know they are wrong too.
getogrow
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Coco coir is considered inert, or without nutrients, because it only has trace amounts of essential minerals. Coir does typically have high amounts of potassium and phosphorus, but because it only contains trace amounts of calcium, chlorine, copper, iron, magnesium, boron, manganese, nitrogen, and zinc, it often requires nutrient supplementation.
Traditional hydroponic nutrient supplements contain high levels of potassium and phosphorus, which are not needed if you’re using coco coir. Instead, look for a coir-specific nutrient supplement or use individual supplements to create your own. The main nutrients you will need to supplement for are calcium and magnesium. In addition, coir is a great medium for microorganism growth but requires nitrogen, so your nutrient supplement should contain high nitrogen levels.
I got this from your link. Were both right. by definition YOU are right and i am wrong.. i can take that.
Traditional hydroponic nutrient supplements contain high levels of potassium and phosphorus, which are not needed if you’re using coco coir. Instead, look for a coir-specific nutrient supplement or use individual supplements to create your own. The main nutrients you will need to supplement for are calcium and magnesium. In addition, coir is a great medium for microorganism growth but requires nitrogen, so your nutrient supplement should contain high nitrogen levels.
I got this from your link. Were both right. by definition YOU are right and i am wrong.. i can take that.
getogrow
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"high amounts of K and P"
So you literally have to wash it off for it to be inert. coco is much closer to soil then it is inert.
After all that reading .... its pretty clear that coco is not inert at all.
twentyeight.threefive
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You are smarter than everyone else. You're right.
curious618
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Hey so I am not trying to stir anything up, just curious. Is there a huge advantage to using Coco? I am a total newbie and don’t know much about it. I have just seen a good amount of problems with it on here. Is it mainly used in Hydro systems? Is it something that is better suited for more experienced growers? Thanks everyone!
PJ Diaz
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You’re pretty sure eh? You don’t sound too sure. Certainly not definite, and zero actual reference. Rock wool can hold bacteria too, does that somehow make it not inert? I don’t think you know what inert means.
twentyeight.threefive
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Coco can grow massive plants in small containers. Coco can be used by anyone as long as you care for it properly like any other medium.
getogrow
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At that point i was pretty sure....after reading a couple more hours on it, i came back with the same info we read about when coco became a "thang" ..... i didnt know it had "high amounts of P" in it but ive always read it had a high amount of K in it.....unless you wash it out....supposedly you can just flush it all out but im not sure on that.
Im not claiming to be anything....im just debating without bias. If im wrong ,im wrong....it happens a lot , its no big deal.
getogrow
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I read the reference that 28 provided.
getogrow
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I have to answer that with another question.
If soil is stripped of all its food , does that make it inert ? by definition , i suppose it does but you wont find that info anywhere.... im just questioning things.
PJ Diaz
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Soil consists of both rock mineral particulates and organic matter. Without organic matter, it's not soil; it would be sand, silt or clay. Therefore your question is mute.
twentyeight.threefive
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You're wrong.If im wrong ,im wrong....it happens a lot , its no big deal.
HaroldRocks
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in the old days, somebody wouldve posted the picture of the special olympics kid winning the race meme about 3 pages back
getogrow
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Your hard headed like me. Im openly debating and openly admiting that i do not know it all but since you do , i should step back.
I made it very clear that said soil was stripped of nutes both macro and secondary and micro....zero , nada. That makes soil inert .......by the way , whats the definition of inert again ?
The difference is , im over here learning while you sit atop a throne.
At this point you are literally saying if i add N to coco then its not inert anymore. You guys have done cited it being loaded with marcos and micros. I dont see how your calling that inert but hey , im just a soil guy , im not up to you hydro guys yet.
