Police chiefs across Canada advocate for decriminalization of illicit drugs for personal use

When they stop arresting people for all victimless crimes, you'll know they're serious.

They can't have it both ways and blame their actions until the laws change on "just doing my job", that's a copout. (yes, that was a pun)
 
I grew up in London. I sold weed from 13 and started selling crack and heroin at 15 and as is the fashion for us Londoners went all over U.K. from oxford to Norfolk to Scotland to sell this stuff and with heroin addicts as time went on I realised something, a lot of these people are bored and heroin addiction wasn’t just about the drugs but it gave them purpose in life, to wake up to hustle to score to repeat and in a way it does the same to the dealers because for all the plugs and super trappers I met throughout the years I didn’t see one get rich, I saw some get close but then get caught and get long sentences and as far as rehab and all that shit goes I didn’t see one junkie actually get clean from it. I see junkies wake up one day and say they’ve had enough don’t text em no more delete there number and that’s it they rattle and move on with there lives and u see them months later shopping with misses or some shit like that, in my opinion decriminalisation ain’t the awnser because as long as kids growing up in bad areas best opportunity is to sell drugs and fight over them and bored people out of London find purpose in life with hard drugs the negativity associated with these substances won’t go away. Shit needs to be legal, a junkie should be able to go to the chemist and get what they need at a price with a reasonable not hyper inflated profit. For some people crack and heroin is a part of who they are they may never quit but for them to be more productive to society they should be able to purchase it safely and the price should be affordable as it would on normal working wages in a legalised world. I got friends dead and locked up for years a lot of us ain’t stupid it’s just we grow up In an environment where the most successful people we see are selling crack and at 14 they offer u 500 a week to go to the countryside and sell it for them and then a few years go by and then your the guy sending other kids to do it and until legalisation happens forcing people into different avenues and removing this one it will never end. Fuck decriminalisation legalise it and let’s move on this will be remembered as a stain on human history
 
gelato23 said:
I grew up in London. I sold weed from 13 and started selling crack and heroin at 15 and as is the fashion for us Londoners went all over U.K. from oxford to Norfolk to Scotland to sell this stuff and with heroin addicts as time went on I realised something, a lot of these people are bored and heroin addiction wasn’t just about the drugs but it gave them purpose in life, to wake up to hustle to score to repeat and in a way it does the same to the dealers because for all the plugs and super trappers I met throughout the years I didn’t see one get rich, I saw some get close but then get caught and get long sentences and as far as rehab and all that shit goes I didn’t see one junkie actually get clean from it. I see junkies wake up one day and say they’ve had enough don’t text em no more delete there number and that’s it they rattle and move on with there lives and u see them months later shopping with misses or some shit like that, in my opinion decriminalisation ain’t the awnser because as long as kids growing up in bad areas best opportunity is to sell drugs and fight over them and bored people out of London find purpose in life with hard drugs the negativity associated with these substances won’t go away. Shit needs to be legal, a junkie should be able to go to the chemist and get what they need at a price with a reasonable not hyper inflated profit. For some people crack and heroin is a part of who they are they may never quit but for them to be more productive to society they should be able to purchase it safely and the price should be affordable as it would on normal working wages in a legalised world. I got friends dead and locked up for years a lot of us ain’t stupid it’s just we grow up In an environment where the most successful people we see are selling crack and at 14 they offer u 500 a week to go to the countryside and sell it for them and then a few years go by and then your the guy sending other kids to do it and until legalisation happens forcing people into different avenues and removing this one it will never end. Fuck decriminalisation legalise it and let’s move on this will be remembered as a stain on human history
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Holy shit were you ever caught ?
 
gelato23 said:
Fuck decriminalisation legalise it and let’s move on this will be remembered as a stain on human history
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While I agree with the sentiment, baby steps are at least steps in the right direction, and the journey has to start somewhere.

Long held prejudices take time to change, especially in the older sectors of the population.
 
gelato23 said:
I grew up in London. I sold weed from 13 and started selling crack and heroin at 15 and as is the fashion for us Londoners went all over U.K. from oxford to Norfolk to Scotland to sell this stuff and with heroin addicts as time went on I realised something, a lot of these people are bored and heroin addiction wasn’t just about the drugs but it gave them purpose in life, to wake up to hustle to score to repeat and in a way it does the same to the dealers because for all the plugs and super trappers I met throughout the years I didn’t see one get rich, I saw some get close but then get caught and get long sentences and as far as rehab and all that shit goes I didn’t see one junkie actually get clean from it. I see junkies wake up one day and say they’ve had enough don’t text em no more delete there number and that’s it they rattle and move on with there lives and u see them months later shopping with misses or some shit like that, in my opinion decriminalisation ain’t the awnser because as long as kids growing up in bad areas best opportunity is to sell drugs and fight over them and bored people out of London find purpose in life with hard drugs the negativity associated with these substances won’t go away. Shit needs to be legal, a junkie should be able to go to the chemist and get what they need at a price with a reasonable not hyper inflated profit. For some people crack and heroin is a part of who they are they may never quit but for them to be more productive to society they should be able to purchase it safely and the price should be affordable as it would on normal working wages in a legalised world. I got friends dead and locked up for years a lot of us ain’t stupid it’s just we grow up In an environment where the most successful people we see are selling crack and at 14 they offer u 500 a week to go to the countryside and sell it for them and then a few years go by and then your the guy sending other kids to do it and until legalisation happens forcing people into different avenues and removing this one it will never end. Fuck decriminalisation legalise it and let’s move on this will be remembered as a stain on human history
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Some good points for sure.

What about all of the crime that goes with drug use? IE theft to pay for their habit and even murder over it
 
JimmyDeezNutz said:
Holy shit were you ever caught ?
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close a few times but never charged and locked up

H G Griffin said:
While I agree with the sentiment, baby steps are at least steps in the right direction, and the journey has to start somewhere.

Long held prejudices take time to change, especially in the older sectors of the population.
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I do get what your saying but imo if it’s not full legalisation of all substances then the black market still exists and life is a lil easier for junkies but the suffering involved in getting that crack rock or that heroin bag to the point of being in the junkies hand is still there.


Craigson said:
Some good points for sure.

What about all of the crime that goes with drug use? IE theft to pay for their habit and even murder over it
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if the drugs were legal and heroin was prescribed to people with addiction on a small fee basis there wouldn’t be as much crime there and tbh it’s the stimulant drugs like crack and prob meth in USA that have people doin crazy crimes to get it but if those drugs were legal they would be so much cheaper that just getting a normal job should be able to pay for a it and there wouldn’t be a need to be a criminal to support and ridiculous amount of money habit and that way the most fucked up junkies who push over old granny’s and steal there handbags would no longer be able to get community sentences because they are addicts and it’s not their fault blah blah blah there are so many hard drug users out there that don’t do all that crazy stuff to get it that you start to realise the ones that do are scum with or without drugs.

i Don’t know about USA and Canada but in U.K. very few under prob 27 is doing harder Drugs they are just getting locked up for selling em and it’s gotta stop we were born into a drug war that we didn’t start and it’s mine and future generations that will be locked up for selling to older generation and it’s wrong, the war on drugs is over, drugs won.
 
gelato23 said:
I do get what your saying but imo if it’s not full legalisation of all substances then the black market still exists and life is a lil easier for junkies but the suffering involved in getting that crack rock or that heroin bag to the point of being in the junkies hand is still there.
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We just passed the 2 year anniversary of legal recreational cannabis in Canada. Our lives are unchanged, junkees all crazy on marywannas didn't happen. You would be amazed though, at the fear and anger and misinformation and resistance there was among some sectors of the population leading up to legalization.

And that was just for cannabis.

Societal changes on a large scale take years, often generations. In spite of all the research, people often think with their gut and not their brain.

Diagnosing a problem is only the beginning. Ask any decent manager, you can have the best goals in the world but if you can't come up with a good implementation and get buy-in from your people, your goals will go unaccomplished.
It's the same in a society. Education must accompany legislation.
 
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