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[KlosetKing]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Cops don't make the laws, and we pay them to enforce the laws. They can't pick and choose them..

you need to tell that to the cops that lobby for laws. in my opinion they should have no right to do so, its obvious conflict of interest. they can vote of course, but i dont think they should have the right to set up 'councils' and publicly lobby for laws, then turn around and say things like 'we dont make the laws, we just enforce them'. a police council carries a lot of wieght, a lot more wieght than a council made up of just citizens. its not right.

 

[EagleEyeHamThrust]

A valid point, I concede. I also agree that it's conflict of interest, and that the state-endorsed lobbying should be illegal. However I don't think that's an excuse to label all cops as scum. There is a percentage of smokers that are worthless, lazy potheads, that mooch off of others and generally shirk their responsibilities, but that's no reason to label all smokers as such. I tend to believe most smokers are responsible people just trying to enjoy themselves, but we don't hear much from them because they are the silent majority. Same with your average beat cop, who's not involved in politics and is just trying to make money.

 

[KlosetKing]

A valid point, I concede. I also agree that it's conflict of interest, and that the state-endorsed lobbying should be illegal. However I don't think that's an excuse to label all cops as scum. There is a percentage of smokers that are worthless, lazy potheads, that mooch off of others and generally shirk their responsibilities, but that's no reason to label all smokers as such. I tend to believe most smokers are responsible people just trying to enjoy themselves, but we don't hear much from them because they are the silent majority. Same with your average beat cop, who's not involved in politics and is just trying to make money.

i absolutely agree. Marilyn Manson (though i hate his music) said something that has rang true to me for many years. drug ABUSERS make drug USERS look bad. and its totally true, and of course, which stands out more? same goes for cops. i also believe that a lot, if not most, are out to do good. but the bad ones give them all a bad image. that, and of course the giant blue wall that forms around any one of them when they are accused of being corrupt in any way. tons of good cops will back up their bad cop friends cuz of the 'hes one of us' mentality, and it helps carry the bad perception people have on them. Barry Cooper was almost the exception to this, but it is also now obvious the guy doesnt just want to help stoners, he wants to make money, and he wants the fame, and not to mention that he was relatively corrupt himself while on the force. was a good shot though.

i digress though. all in all, i agree with you.

 

[dinobelly]

Use that forum as a tool......know your enemies.

 

[kevin]

i just seen a story on the fox news network about a motorcyclist that had a hidden helmet cam and posted a vid of him getting pulled over. the cops use the tape as a wire tapping incident and goes arrest him and tears his house up doing a search. what a bitch. i'll try to find a link



here it is

http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/...-wiretapping-charge-for-filming-cop-with-gun/

 

[potroast]

I'm far from paranoid... i just understand a little bit about how the web works. if you follow that link, the admin of the police site will be able to get your IP and look at your house on google earth. who knows... you might even be waving out of the window.

Sorry, but that is complete BULLSHIT, no other site will get our IP addy from Rollitup. They can get your IP if you visit their site, just like any site, but they would need a subpoena of your ISP to get your location.

Quit spreading crap.

 

[skunkushybrid01]

Sorry, but that is complete BULLSHIT, no other site will get our IP addy from Rollitup. They can get your IP if you visit their site, just like any site, but they would need a subpoena of your ISP to get your location.

Quit spreading crap.

No need to be sorry...

As you just said if they follow that link *(as in click the link) they will reveal their IP to the admin of the site. even google analytics will let you do that and it's free. You can see where all links leading to your website come from and who clicked them, including the browser they used and the IP address. With an IP address all you need to do is use a tool to look it up and then the location will appear on google maps. most of the sites that check IP's have google maps built in. His site will also not be as large as this one so incoming links will be much more obvious. Why visit a police site by clicking a link from this site? It doesn't make any sense. If you link in from google or yahoo, fine... but linking to a police site from a weed site is surely wrong in many more ways than even i'm mentioning here.

I wouldn't follow that link and i'm not even from the US. I would not want my personal information hitting one of their servers at the best of times... but to deliberately link in from a weed site is foolhardy.

IMO, of course...

 

[CSI Stickyicky]

i just seen a story on the fox news network about a motorcyclist that had a hidden helmet cam and posted a vid of him getting pulled over. the cops use the tape as a wire tapping incident and goes arrest him and tears his house up doing a search. what a bitch. i'll try to find a link



here it is

http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/...-wiretapping-charge-for-filming-cop-with-gun/

Damn that cop was plain clothes, plain car, and pulled a gun, but didnt identify himself as a cop for several seconds. That cop should have identified himself first thing. The man could have thought the "cop" was a armed robber and reacted. Thats why they have rules about identifying yourself as a cop.

So what happened was the cop was caught on tape fucking up. And they didnt like the black eye, so they retaliated by charging the man, WITH A FELONY! Douche bags.

I guess the only legal option would have been to reach for the stop button ASAP. I wonder how that idiot cop would have reacted to him "reaching"? I think he had no choice but to continue recording.

 

[kevin]

i did a few differnt searches on my ip address to see where it would take me. it comes up with a town 125 miles from my service? i know they could get a sopena to get my physical address but wouldn't they need a bit more evidence than me clicking a link from a gardening website to warrant a search?

 

[redivider]

Alright. The ip address is sometimes incomplete. There's about seven different identifying "things" that automatically get recorded LEOs could theoretically look at to track you down.

As for the recording of the arrest, it ocurred on a public street, there's no expectation of privacy. I believe there's a law against recording a cop in that state, or something of the sort. But I believe that since it ocurred on a public street, and the nature of the hardware in use, he's in more trouble for eluding than for having the camera.....

 

[skunkushybrid01]

i did a few differnt searches on my ip address to see where it would take me. it comes up with a town 125 miles from my service? i know they could get a sopena to get my physical address but wouldn't they need a bit more evidence than me clicking a link from a gardening website to warrant a search?

it might just be all the evidence they need to put you back on the checklist.

certain addresses are known to the 5-0... they'll fly a chopper over... as well as other stuff... if they don't find anything, or gain any extra evidence they'll remove you from the list and target other addresses. however should it just be a coincidence that a member from here is under or has been under investigation, they click the link and the IP address reveals their actual location. then it may be just that extra bit they need to bolster or re-instigate the investigation. may even make them sure enough to enter your home illegally. of course they'll be looking for a felon and just happen to stumble across the crop.

You're pretty lucky to have your actual IP located 120 whatever miles from your home. Mine is spot on to within just a few houses and most other people i know are like that too.

It just seems unsafe to me... i don't even like saying their name on line. I definitely would never click that link. But that's just me and my fears... probably wrong of me to spread them to other people, but strangely i actually thought i was doing people a favour.

 

[KlosetKing]

it might just be all the evidence they need to put you back on the checklist.

certain addresses are known to the 5-0... they'll fly a chopper over... as well as other stuff... if they don't find anything, or gain any extra evidence they'll remove you from the list and target other addresses. however should it just be a coincidence that a member from here is under or has been under investigation, they click the link and the IP address reveals their actual location. then it may be just that extra bit they need to bolster or re-instigate the investigation. may even make them sure enough to enter your home illegally. of course they'll be looking for a felon and just happen to stumble across the crop.

You're pretty lucky to have your actual IP located 120 whatever miles from your home. Mine is spot on to within just a few houses and most other people i know are like that too.

It just seems unsafe to me... i don't even like saying their name on line. I definitely would never click that link. But that's just me and my fears... probably wrong of me to spread them to other people, but strangely i actually thought i was doing people a favour.

while i agree with you, we both need to chalk it up to Paranoia. the bottom line is it is unlikely, no matter the situation. i agree on not using names online, hell it took me a long time just to get the nerve to upload some pictures. but what it comes down to is, even with us on this site, clicking links uploading photos and talking about growing, i doubt you have much to worry about unless you are bragging about a huge operation you have, then they might get interested enough to find a subpoena. i just dont think they will be able to get a judge to order such a thing after 'so we found this guy online, he has 3 plants in his closet, lets get him'. our paranoia keeps us safe, but it also makes us think slightly irrationally.

 

[skunkushybrid01]

while i agree with you, we both need to chalk it up to Paranoia. the bottom line is it is unlikely, no matter the situation. i agree on not using names online, hell it took me a long time just to get the nerve to upload some pictures. but what it comes down to is, even with us on this site, clicking links uploading photos and talking about growing, i doubt you have much to worry about unless you are bragging about a huge operation you have, then they might get interested enough to find a subpoena. i just dont think they will be able to get a judge to order such a thing after 'so we found this guy online, he has 3 plants in his closet, lets get him'. our paranoia keeps us safe, but it also makes us think slightly irrationally.

the police work with a chain of evidence... they need so much evidence to bust you, or at least enough to be 95% sure. it's all about tax payers money... they need it to be easy, so we should endeavour to make things as difficult as we can for them.

Maybe slightly irrational, after all i'm in UK and that link doubtless leads to a US police forum.. and i'd still never click that link. The police love gathering intelligence. Just too much for me.

It doesn't have anything to do with this site, simply following the link from this site is enough. they wouldn't know what account you had here or exactly what you're doing. your info here is safe, i know that for a fact or i wouldn't be posting here... but i wouldn't follow a link from here to a police forum, to my mind it is against good sense.

To win the lottery in my country the odds are exactly 14 million to one... yet millions of people throw money away every week. they do it because every now and then there is a winner.

 

[deprave]

Sorry, but that is complete BULLSHIT, no other site will get our IP addy from Rollitup. They can get your IP if you visit their site, just like any site, but they would need a subpoena of your ISP to get your location.

Quit spreading crap.

actually no it would show your IP cause you went to their site and IT will give a refering link saying you came from rollitup but they wouldnt know what user on rollitup that you are only the fact that person from X.X.X.X IP came from rollitup.org

However highly unlikely they use this as some kind of evidence or anything of that nature, the web master and moderators on that site likely arent even police officers and if they are then its just their personal forums cause I don't think its official, even so how likely is it they are looking at reffering URLS and taking the ones that are WEED sites and then investigating the IP for those users on some kind of wild hunch thats INCREDIBLY unrealistic, I am sure that site gets 10's of thousands of hits a day lol it would be a total waste of anyones time and resources even someone with litteraly nothing better to do likely doesnt exist.

 

[skunkushybrid01]

However highly unlikely they use this as some kind of evidence or anything of that nature, the web master and moderators on that site likely arent even police officers and if they are then its just their personal forums cause I don't think its official, even so how likely is it they are looking at reffering URLS and taking the ones that are WEED sites and then investigating the IP for those users on some kind of wild hunch thats INCREDIBLY unrealistic, I am sure that site gets 10's of thousands of hits a day lol it would be a total waste of anyones time and resources even someone with litteraly nothing better to do likely doesnt exist.

actually incredibly likely.... looking through a list of stats containing various sites, i think a weed site would stick out a little. admin thinks, hmm... wonder why they're linking to us, and from there it begins.

wild hunches pay off all the time. it's like winning the lottery.