pixovilson
Well-Known Member
ok so i just thought it would be an interesting thread to discuss the powers of the police and when and why they can
1.enter your property -
2.warrant a search -
3.take personal lighting equipment/property
4.take cash&goods
5.get a warrant to raid you
OK well iv personally never been busted as I'm not a perpetual grower and have never grown for commercial use i.e to make money. i have however gave away lots of bud to my friends and sold the odd deal to friends who cant get any weed. therefore iv never interested the poice in a way that would warrant them to make enquires and where i live.
even if i did sell weed nobody only the police would care because a friend with weed is a friend indeed round ere. folks just get ripped off left right n center with wet under weight weed thats early ect ect.
so wen i do manage to pull a crop down my m8s cant get enough of it and eventually u end up selling sum (standard) its more of a help sum1 out than helping my self right(personally it shud be legal because on the street it is anyway) the only people with a problem are people who have a problem in the 1st place n cant live n let live or sum1 who's found out What u do n got jealous n cant handle the reaction of seeing sum1 with sumthing they want.
anyway enough about the reasons why people grass u up and more about the legal reasons police have power of entry into your home. I personally know that if a copper knocks on your door without a warrant they cannot knock the door down they simply have to post a piece of paper saying they have been round n can u ring em, regardless of weather or not they are going to arrest u, if nobody answers the door, they cant enter your home.
OK so wen / if u happen to open the door they still have no right of entry until they ask or you invite them in. if they ask u can say no, but if they are going to arrest you they will arrest u at that point and gain entry that way, completely illegally lol. anyway once they are in your home regardless weather they arrest u or not they will start looking for a reason to search your property.
now depending on what u have been arrested for they have no right to search and they wont have a warrant anyway. so until they have warrant or a good reason to search they still cannot just start searching. but they will have a good scope around to see if theres anything that will gain them rights to search -i.e a blunt - grinder - any paraphernalia.
basically if your clean n everything has its place they shud not see anything that gives em a right to search and if they have arrested u ,u will soon be at the police station having not been searched and they never find your grow. but if they see a grinder on the table or sumthing incriminating they will use the power to search then u screwed.
so keep ya paraphernalia out of site, including bongs ect even baggies. so lets say they have arrested you on your doorstep cuz u didn't invite them in ,they will try to get into your house with your permission, 1 way is they ask if u want a coat or clothing or anything from the house. SAY NO THANKS. or they will do a search illegally trust me.
anyway so ur all arrested and under caution and u dont want anything from the house n u luckily escape them doing a search n u goto the police station.
right now depending on your charge they can/will do a search of your property/car. normally it has to be a theft charge of sumsort for them to search for stolen goods, but drugs can lead to a search also. this bit I'm not certain of, maybe u get away wiv being charged with an 8th of bud i dunno.
they shudnt be searching because u Hadnt 8th but this is what this thread is about i guess. sum1 can answer that 1 for you.
ok so if they gain the rights to search it depends on where u live. if at sum1 Else's home they can only search your
quarters/room/area they have no right to search anywhere else.if u grow in your dads attic u might get away with it but like i say they do things they can get away with if your not clued up on the law. 1st mistake most people make is letting the coppers straight in or answering the door to em wiv a spliff on lol. ok so thats the power of search sorted, they cant without good reason or a charge, so its upto you to make sure they dont get chance ok. right so now down to the technical stuff.
lets say ur a regular smoker/grower who supplies his m8s only but sum1's clicked onto you n got jealous cuz u wernt selling to them so they decide to grass u up. believe me they can/will try if they get jealous.basically though u dont need to worry to much as 1 persons story ain't enough to gain a warrant to arrest u or gain entry n search so they wud need to investigate what the grass has told em, now if ur very discreet n dont sell the stuff to any1 n on the street then the police will not be able to get a warrant on 1 guys say so and if they see nothing they Will give up after a week or 2 but they will always be watching you trust me.
OK so u dont know it but the coppers think your a grower n dealer its now upto you to convince them your not, obviously u just gotta be carfull how u distribute weed n who too.tight now lets say they was watching you and witnessed u sell a bag to a m8, they now need to either arrest u (which they wont normally without the warrant to search) or they need to goto a magistrates court and get a warrant by providing evidence to the courts of your illegal activities. so they say they have 1 informant and they followed it up with investigation and witnessed u selling the stuff, but rather than fuk up a big bust they want a warrant to bust down your door but 1st they have to wait for the warrant which can take upto 3 weeks depending on how complex the case is, normally they get the warrant within a week for small time stuff.
OK so they get the warrant n they do a bust on you. from here 2 things can happen depending on what u was doing n how u did it. if you only do a grow at a time u might get away with it having took down your grown after you chopped but most people keep a perpetual going right. this is where it can fuck u up i guess because u will always have weed n equipment n a grow on, where as if u take down after u chop n start again after its gone u have a margin of escape. OK so lets say u took it down, its obvious what happens if its up still right. u get arrested. anyway so u taken it down n all that remains is maybe the equipment laying around.I'm pretty sure that without substantial evidence that u was growing weed theres nothing they can do about your equipment and they cant take it away or arrest u for having it.
but if you confess to using it to grow weed then yup they will Nick u there n then.-SO NO OFFICER NEVER USED EM- OK so they basically see an empty room thats got no evidence of weed there at all. they cant touch you without your confession. and if Ur lucky enough to have no weed on you they will leave empty handed. but from then they will try to bust u again by gaining more evidence because it will be harder for em to get another warrant without substantial evidence this time.
so after a lucky escape u need to keep it on the low for a while. they cant just enter your property like i say without a warrant or your permission but if they suspect u they will try there best to gain entry with or without your permission so make sure every things out of sight because the next thing they normally after a failed bust is pop round to see u with sum excuse like they are looking for sum1 who's known to come round your house n can they have alook around for him- NO U CANT WITHOUT A WARRANT OFFICER-
they cant enter but u think it makes u look suspicious for denying them entry. fuck em- its there problem- get a warrant or dont cum bak.
ok so lets say that you did get busted and they did find everything they need to charge you. this is where the way u grow can decide a jail sentence or a caution. obviously if you are growing for commercial gain you will have a perpetual staggerd operation. anything over 5 plants to them is conciderd commercial or for profits. anything under that is for personal use and your charge will reflect it.
also hydroponics will be classed as a professional operation regardless how many plants u have, but if u have a small amount of plants Ur sentence will reflect that.but they will take into consideration that you know what u are doing and could be a professional grower making $$$ behind there back so to sting you they are not lenient etc.
OK also what goes against you is amount of rooms used and amount of cuttings or seedlings ect. this reflects how much you are selling etc.if u have no cuttings no seedlings just 4 flowering females in 1 room u might walk out of the police station with acaution and confiscated property.but if u had 2 rooms 1 vegging 1 flowering with 60 seedlings/cuttings and a rom full of flowering females you will be charged with commercial growing- forget what they call it.
also if they charge you with commercial growing they canthenstart on assets proceedings and take your cars - house - computers - cash - and anything u might of spent your hard earned cash on regardless of weather or not you bought it legit with your wages. to them if your growing weed and u dont earn enough for your car they willk take it away. same as the house. bullshit init. but they will.
even down to your life savings that uv been saving long before u started growing. this is why i say fuck the law they break em enough.there shudnt even be a law for growing cannabis. they shud legalise it to a point so that genuine people can benefit from the great benefits cannabis has to offer instead of making money for people who just want to abuse it and abuse everybody else at the same time.
i personally grow weed for a (+) reason not a (-) when i grow weed nobody is unhappy about it because the amount
of (+) it brings makes it worth it for me and them. sum people wud rather abuse it and abuse everybody else at the same time, well those people get caught in the end and its justified, those who get caught because sum snitch grassed because he wasn't being sold any because u didn't want to sell it isn't justified. but anyway thats another issue.
so just to recap then.
no warrant - no bust - no evidence - no warrant - no grass - no evidence - no weed - no grass - no grass - no (+) - no (+) no point.
also theres the bail issues. now that depends on your previous bail history and offences. if your clean and have never skipped bail or missed court or even ever been arrested u WILL GET BAIL. they can however hold you for upto 48 hours pending furtur investigations etc ,but after that they have to get a further custody extension to keep u locked up for another 3 days- after about a week they either have to charge you or let u go.
sum times the police / custody Sergeant can apply for your remand and if they do so you wont be getting bailed u go straight to court in the morning via group4 bus then the courts decide to remand you or not. well if the police want u remanded thats what they get regardless of evidence etc because the point of remanding you is so u cannot destroy evidence or leave the country etc etc. but unless your case is high profile its unlikely that they will remand you and the police wont find it necessary to ask for remand anyway. even if they do your brief can appeal it and ask for a good reason why they shud remand you.
if u have a good solicitor he can get it over turned in a couple of days at court but chances are if the police want u remanded they normally get it. now about bail again. bail can sum times be a bit tricky if the address u lived at was where u grow your weed. if your landlord wants you out then you cant go back to the address. well ucant be bailed to that address as u might not be there next week after the landlord evicts you.
now most landlords ain't gonna be fussed that u grew a bit of personal and most will continue your tenancy as long as u dont do it again. most landlords wont kik u out as it just means less money for them until they finda new tenant, now if u have no bail address other than your own u might run into bail trouble as u might not have a good enough address to be bailed to, also if they believe u will continue illegal activities the minute u are released -i.e carry on selling - they can refuse u bail for that reason too.
but Ur brief can swing things if they any good. also remember - THE CUSTODY SERGENT IS YOUR ONLY FRIEND IN THE STATION - HES THE GUY THAT DECIDED WEATHER OR NOT U GO HOME OR GET REMANDED - now if u entered the police station all spitting n farting abuse at every1 including the custody Sergent u may aswell forget about going home tonight cus they can mess around for 3 days regardless, so be nice to the custody Sergent even if hes the only guy your nice too. most folks just get into the station all angry n upset n then they upset the custody Sergent who just wanted a nice day. anyway.
back to bail. if u have no address u can ask to be bailed to a BAIL HOSTEL. there not very nice places but its better than a 6x6 cell or jail. so if u have no address try not to get to upset about it as theres still hope with the hostels. sum times they are full n they cant get u in till the next day so u might have 2 wait,but its better than jail trust me. OK so another thing about bail addresses is they wont bail you to any known criminals address, although they might its unlikely they will if the guys a well known drug dealer or criminal as u are more likely to continue further illegal activities etc.
so forget about using your local drug dealers address even if he wud give u it. 1 u cud end up getting him busted and 2 u discredit yourself a little more. but u can try if its your only hope i guess, iv known people to be bailed to criminals address so its possible. OK so lets say u get ya bail n they charge u with personal cultivation and u at court in 3 weeks. between these 3 weeks u need to be very car full what u do. last thing u want is to get arrested again because 1 u less likely to get bailed again.
in fact its not comman to be re-bailed if your already on bail, although its possible its looked down upon by the courts and the police. chances are if Ur arrested a second time regardless of weather its a related offence or not u will most likely be refused bail and have to goto court in the morning or 1st opportunity and apply for bail. but like i say at this point the police can apply for remand and so can the prosecution at court as u are likely to re-offend etc. so yeah be verycarfull wat u do while ur on bail ok.
1 more thing about being charged n bail is that depending on the day u are arrested can determine how long u have to stay at the policestaion for until theres another court. if u get arrested on a Saturday n u get refused bail. u wont get to court until Monday morning and if its a bank holiday Tuesday unless they get u into special courts that can be anywhere in the country.also Friday night. if u get arrested Friday night u wanna be getting delt with before moring so get your brief on the case sharpish otherwise u will still be being intervied through Saturday n u will miss the Saturday morning special court, like bank holidays. so year Friday night is deadline.
if u get arrested Friday night make sure Ur brief gets u delt with quiktime or u will be in till Monday moring if refused bail. anyway...yeah so just remember these things if u ever get nicked n u might get lucky n be out within a few hours n if you have grown it to a minimal u might even get a caution its Ur 1st offence.iv known sum1 to get caught with 16 females in his attic but because he did his grow real ghetto style with no professional touches to it at all, just a thrown together room with no extraction or any professional equipment other than 2 150whps light. he got bailed same day went to court 3 weeks later- got bailed again for pre-sentence reports(il get bak about these) then went n got sentenced 2 weeks l8r n all he got was probation.
well that was not lucky really it was about right. thats what to expect nowadays if ur just ghetto styling it. so yeah screw em onwiththeshow. anyway pre sentence reports. dunno if u know what they are but if u dont there pretty important regarding your final sentence. a pre sentence report is exactly Wat it is.- a PRE-SENTENCE-REPORT- that the probation will do with you before u get sentenced.
now the reason they are important is because the probation basically do an assessment on you before u get to court and they suggest a fitting sentence for you. now u can blag them with all the bull u want but they hear it all the time. best thing to do is be honest with em but twist the truth a little rather than alot of bull.if u bullshit em they will think u need jail cuz ur probly thinking about doing it again and thats what u are trying to cover up the fact of. if your honest wiv em they take what u say as the truth and sorta understand u a little more.
although it in noway determines your sentence it does determine what the courts will think of you when u get up in front of em. if they think your full of shit they will use u as an example to all those people out there who abuse cannabis. if they think your genuine and have just made a mistake that u will never do again they will be more lenient with you and be more prepared to give u a second chance.
right so wen u do your pre sentence report they ask questions about you right from the start of your life. they want to know everything about you and why u ended up drug dealing. they start with school n wat qualifications u gained ect and then about how well u got on with authority and if cant take being pushed n pulled by authority etc. if they think you just want to rebel against the system they make it harder for you, but if all u want is to flow with the system they make it easier for u. so this is what u want em to think of you. u was a great pupil at school and was always willing to learn more and gain qualifications . then u left school and got a job and like anybody else struggled on up until today when u had no choice but to make a little extra money as u tried everything else and always hit a brick wall because of how the system works.blah blah blah.
anyway u realize it was a dumb thing to do and u are unlikely to do it again as u have just hit that brick wall again but this time realized it was your fault all along. its upto you to climb over the brick wall not run into it. thats what u want them to think regardless if u think that or not.
then u want em to know that all u now want is to do it like anybody else does and get a good job n settle down get married have kids (then get screwed by the system again when its all going good lol) anyway if u get your pre sentence report bang on they then decide what sort of sentence to give u and they put u into 1 of 3 categories.
1-custody inevitable - 2 custody possible - 3. public sentence- i.e probation etc- basically 3 is jail 2 is all options open - 3 is a community punishment that u do within the community - i.e probation - community service - fines etc -
now u wanna leave the probation with number 1 right - community order - not 3 -custody inevitable. so u gotta convince the probation that u are unlikely to offend again and u have learned your lesson and shown remorse for what u did.
then u will most likely get 1 a community order. if its a serious offense but u swing the probation officer in your favor u likely get 2-all options- but if u upset the probation or prove your gonna re offend or you offer no solution to your own problems they will go for 3-custody inevitable. now that dont mean you will goto jail. thats just the pre sentence proposal and its still upto the judges on the day.
now depending on how serious your case is will determine which courts you goto. if it is a commercial charge u likley start off in magistrates then get bailed to goto crown where it all hits the fan. if u going to crown mate , u probly going to jail too.
its not very common to end up in crown for growing so it wud have to be a big operation to get into crown but u cud end up in crown because u have other charges alongside the weed that get delt with at crown in 1 go, its been known although not likely but when it does happen your sentences run concurrent with each other anyway so u end up not really doing any time for the weed just for the serious crimes.
anyway i hope this has informed u of the likely procedures u will go through if ever caught for doing sumthing so damn (+) because of (-) people.
i hope none of u ever have to go through this crap as its truly unjust for people like myself who just want a (+) thing to cum from it. but life is unjust. anyway hopefully sum1 will remember this wen they hear that knock at the door- dont answer it m8.
1.enter your property -
2.warrant a search -
3.take personal lighting equipment/property
4.take cash&goods
5.get a warrant to raid you
OK well iv personally never been busted as I'm not a perpetual grower and have never grown for commercial use i.e to make money. i have however gave away lots of bud to my friends and sold the odd deal to friends who cant get any weed. therefore iv never interested the poice in a way that would warrant them to make enquires and where i live.
even if i did sell weed nobody only the police would care because a friend with weed is a friend indeed round ere. folks just get ripped off left right n center with wet under weight weed thats early ect ect.
so wen i do manage to pull a crop down my m8s cant get enough of it and eventually u end up selling sum (standard) its more of a help sum1 out than helping my self right(personally it shud be legal because on the street it is anyway) the only people with a problem are people who have a problem in the 1st place n cant live n let live or sum1 who's found out What u do n got jealous n cant handle the reaction of seeing sum1 with sumthing they want.
anyway enough about the reasons why people grass u up and more about the legal reasons police have power of entry into your home. I personally know that if a copper knocks on your door without a warrant they cannot knock the door down they simply have to post a piece of paper saying they have been round n can u ring em, regardless of weather or not they are going to arrest u, if nobody answers the door, they cant enter your home.
OK so wen / if u happen to open the door they still have no right of entry until they ask or you invite them in. if they ask u can say no, but if they are going to arrest you they will arrest u at that point and gain entry that way, completely illegally lol. anyway once they are in your home regardless weather they arrest u or not they will start looking for a reason to search your property.
now depending on what u have been arrested for they have no right to search and they wont have a warrant anyway. so until they have warrant or a good reason to search they still cannot just start searching. but they will have a good scope around to see if theres anything that will gain them rights to search -i.e a blunt - grinder - any paraphernalia.
basically if your clean n everything has its place they shud not see anything that gives em a right to search and if they have arrested u ,u will soon be at the police station having not been searched and they never find your grow. but if they see a grinder on the table or sumthing incriminating they will use the power to search then u screwed.
so keep ya paraphernalia out of site, including bongs ect even baggies. so lets say they have arrested you on your doorstep cuz u didn't invite them in ,they will try to get into your house with your permission, 1 way is they ask if u want a coat or clothing or anything from the house. SAY NO THANKS. or they will do a search illegally trust me.
anyway so ur all arrested and under caution and u dont want anything from the house n u luckily escape them doing a search n u goto the police station.
right now depending on your charge they can/will do a search of your property/car. normally it has to be a theft charge of sumsort for them to search for stolen goods, but drugs can lead to a search also. this bit I'm not certain of, maybe u get away wiv being charged with an 8th of bud i dunno.
they shudnt be searching because u Hadnt 8th but this is what this thread is about i guess. sum1 can answer that 1 for you.
ok so if they gain the rights to search it depends on where u live. if at sum1 Else's home they can only search your
quarters/room/area they have no right to search anywhere else.if u grow in your dads attic u might get away with it but like i say they do things they can get away with if your not clued up on the law. 1st mistake most people make is letting the coppers straight in or answering the door to em wiv a spliff on lol. ok so thats the power of search sorted, they cant without good reason or a charge, so its upto you to make sure they dont get chance ok. right so now down to the technical stuff.
lets say ur a regular smoker/grower who supplies his m8s only but sum1's clicked onto you n got jealous cuz u wernt selling to them so they decide to grass u up. believe me they can/will try if they get jealous.basically though u dont need to worry to much as 1 persons story ain't enough to gain a warrant to arrest u or gain entry n search so they wud need to investigate what the grass has told em, now if ur very discreet n dont sell the stuff to any1 n on the street then the police will not be able to get a warrant on 1 guys say so and if they see nothing they Will give up after a week or 2 but they will always be watching you trust me.
OK so u dont know it but the coppers think your a grower n dealer its now upto you to convince them your not, obviously u just gotta be carfull how u distribute weed n who too.tight now lets say they was watching you and witnessed u sell a bag to a m8, they now need to either arrest u (which they wont normally without the warrant to search) or they need to goto a magistrates court and get a warrant by providing evidence to the courts of your illegal activities. so they say they have 1 informant and they followed it up with investigation and witnessed u selling the stuff, but rather than fuk up a big bust they want a warrant to bust down your door but 1st they have to wait for the warrant which can take upto 3 weeks depending on how complex the case is, normally they get the warrant within a week for small time stuff.
OK so they get the warrant n they do a bust on you. from here 2 things can happen depending on what u was doing n how u did it. if you only do a grow at a time u might get away with it having took down your grown after you chopped but most people keep a perpetual going right. this is where it can fuck u up i guess because u will always have weed n equipment n a grow on, where as if u take down after u chop n start again after its gone u have a margin of escape. OK so lets say u took it down, its obvious what happens if its up still right. u get arrested. anyway so u taken it down n all that remains is maybe the equipment laying around.I'm pretty sure that without substantial evidence that u was growing weed theres nothing they can do about your equipment and they cant take it away or arrest u for having it.
but if you confess to using it to grow weed then yup they will Nick u there n then.-SO NO OFFICER NEVER USED EM- OK so they basically see an empty room thats got no evidence of weed there at all. they cant touch you without your confession. and if Ur lucky enough to have no weed on you they will leave empty handed. but from then they will try to bust u again by gaining more evidence because it will be harder for em to get another warrant without substantial evidence this time.
so after a lucky escape u need to keep it on the low for a while. they cant just enter your property like i say without a warrant or your permission but if they suspect u they will try there best to gain entry with or without your permission so make sure every things out of sight because the next thing they normally after a failed bust is pop round to see u with sum excuse like they are looking for sum1 who's known to come round your house n can they have alook around for him- NO U CANT WITHOUT A WARRANT OFFICER-
they cant enter but u think it makes u look suspicious for denying them entry. fuck em- its there problem- get a warrant or dont cum bak.
ok so lets say that you did get busted and they did find everything they need to charge you. this is where the way u grow can decide a jail sentence or a caution. obviously if you are growing for commercial gain you will have a perpetual staggerd operation. anything over 5 plants to them is conciderd commercial or for profits. anything under that is for personal use and your charge will reflect it.
also hydroponics will be classed as a professional operation regardless how many plants u have, but if u have a small amount of plants Ur sentence will reflect that.but they will take into consideration that you know what u are doing and could be a professional grower making $$$ behind there back so to sting you they are not lenient etc.
OK also what goes against you is amount of rooms used and amount of cuttings or seedlings ect. this reflects how much you are selling etc.if u have no cuttings no seedlings just 4 flowering females in 1 room u might walk out of the police station with acaution and confiscated property.but if u had 2 rooms 1 vegging 1 flowering with 60 seedlings/cuttings and a rom full of flowering females you will be charged with commercial growing- forget what they call it.
also if they charge you with commercial growing they canthenstart on assets proceedings and take your cars - house - computers - cash - and anything u might of spent your hard earned cash on regardless of weather or not you bought it legit with your wages. to them if your growing weed and u dont earn enough for your car they willk take it away. same as the house. bullshit init. but they will.
even down to your life savings that uv been saving long before u started growing. this is why i say fuck the law they break em enough.there shudnt even be a law for growing cannabis. they shud legalise it to a point so that genuine people can benefit from the great benefits cannabis has to offer instead of making money for people who just want to abuse it and abuse everybody else at the same time.
i personally grow weed for a (+) reason not a (-) when i grow weed nobody is unhappy about it because the amount
of (+) it brings makes it worth it for me and them. sum people wud rather abuse it and abuse everybody else at the same time, well those people get caught in the end and its justified, those who get caught because sum snitch grassed because he wasn't being sold any because u didn't want to sell it isn't justified. but anyway thats another issue.
so just to recap then.
no warrant - no bust - no evidence - no warrant - no grass - no evidence - no weed - no grass - no grass - no (+) - no (+) no point.
also theres the bail issues. now that depends on your previous bail history and offences. if your clean and have never skipped bail or missed court or even ever been arrested u WILL GET BAIL. they can however hold you for upto 48 hours pending furtur investigations etc ,but after that they have to get a further custody extension to keep u locked up for another 3 days- after about a week they either have to charge you or let u go.
sum times the police / custody Sergeant can apply for your remand and if they do so you wont be getting bailed u go straight to court in the morning via group4 bus then the courts decide to remand you or not. well if the police want u remanded thats what they get regardless of evidence etc because the point of remanding you is so u cannot destroy evidence or leave the country etc etc. but unless your case is high profile its unlikely that they will remand you and the police wont find it necessary to ask for remand anyway. even if they do your brief can appeal it and ask for a good reason why they shud remand you.
if u have a good solicitor he can get it over turned in a couple of days at court but chances are if the police want u remanded they normally get it. now about bail again. bail can sum times be a bit tricky if the address u lived at was where u grow your weed. if your landlord wants you out then you cant go back to the address. well ucant be bailed to that address as u might not be there next week after the landlord evicts you.
now most landlords ain't gonna be fussed that u grew a bit of personal and most will continue your tenancy as long as u dont do it again. most landlords wont kik u out as it just means less money for them until they finda new tenant, now if u have no bail address other than your own u might run into bail trouble as u might not have a good enough address to be bailed to, also if they believe u will continue illegal activities the minute u are released -i.e carry on selling - they can refuse u bail for that reason too.
but Ur brief can swing things if they any good. also remember - THE CUSTODY SERGENT IS YOUR ONLY FRIEND IN THE STATION - HES THE GUY THAT DECIDED WEATHER OR NOT U GO HOME OR GET REMANDED - now if u entered the police station all spitting n farting abuse at every1 including the custody Sergent u may aswell forget about going home tonight cus they can mess around for 3 days regardless, so be nice to the custody Sergent even if hes the only guy your nice too. most folks just get into the station all angry n upset n then they upset the custody Sergent who just wanted a nice day. anyway.
back to bail. if u have no address u can ask to be bailed to a BAIL HOSTEL. there not very nice places but its better than a 6x6 cell or jail. so if u have no address try not to get to upset about it as theres still hope with the hostels. sum times they are full n they cant get u in till the next day so u might have 2 wait,but its better than jail trust me. OK so another thing about bail addresses is they wont bail you to any known criminals address, although they might its unlikely they will if the guys a well known drug dealer or criminal as u are more likely to continue further illegal activities etc.
so forget about using your local drug dealers address even if he wud give u it. 1 u cud end up getting him busted and 2 u discredit yourself a little more. but u can try if its your only hope i guess, iv known people to be bailed to criminals address so its possible. OK so lets say u get ya bail n they charge u with personal cultivation and u at court in 3 weeks. between these 3 weeks u need to be very car full what u do. last thing u want is to get arrested again because 1 u less likely to get bailed again.
in fact its not comman to be re-bailed if your already on bail, although its possible its looked down upon by the courts and the police. chances are if Ur arrested a second time regardless of weather its a related offence or not u will most likely be refused bail and have to goto court in the morning or 1st opportunity and apply for bail. but like i say at this point the police can apply for remand and so can the prosecution at court as u are likely to re-offend etc. so yeah be verycarfull wat u do while ur on bail ok.
1 more thing about being charged n bail is that depending on the day u are arrested can determine how long u have to stay at the policestaion for until theres another court. if u get arrested on a Saturday n u get refused bail. u wont get to court until Monday morning and if its a bank holiday Tuesday unless they get u into special courts that can be anywhere in the country.also Friday night. if u get arrested Friday night u wanna be getting delt with before moring so get your brief on the case sharpish otherwise u will still be being intervied through Saturday n u will miss the Saturday morning special court, like bank holidays. so year Friday night is deadline.
if u get arrested Friday night make sure Ur brief gets u delt with quiktime or u will be in till Monday moring if refused bail. anyway...yeah so just remember these things if u ever get nicked n u might get lucky n be out within a few hours n if you have grown it to a minimal u might even get a caution its Ur 1st offence.iv known sum1 to get caught with 16 females in his attic but because he did his grow real ghetto style with no professional touches to it at all, just a thrown together room with no extraction or any professional equipment other than 2 150whps light. he got bailed same day went to court 3 weeks later- got bailed again for pre-sentence reports(il get bak about these) then went n got sentenced 2 weeks l8r n all he got was probation.
well that was not lucky really it was about right. thats what to expect nowadays if ur just ghetto styling it. so yeah screw em onwiththeshow. anyway pre sentence reports. dunno if u know what they are but if u dont there pretty important regarding your final sentence. a pre sentence report is exactly Wat it is.- a PRE-SENTENCE-REPORT- that the probation will do with you before u get sentenced.
now the reason they are important is because the probation basically do an assessment on you before u get to court and they suggest a fitting sentence for you. now u can blag them with all the bull u want but they hear it all the time. best thing to do is be honest with em but twist the truth a little rather than alot of bull.if u bullshit em they will think u need jail cuz ur probly thinking about doing it again and thats what u are trying to cover up the fact of. if your honest wiv em they take what u say as the truth and sorta understand u a little more.
although it in noway determines your sentence it does determine what the courts will think of you when u get up in front of em. if they think your full of shit they will use u as an example to all those people out there who abuse cannabis. if they think your genuine and have just made a mistake that u will never do again they will be more lenient with you and be more prepared to give u a second chance.
right so wen u do your pre sentence report they ask questions about you right from the start of your life. they want to know everything about you and why u ended up drug dealing. they start with school n wat qualifications u gained ect and then about how well u got on with authority and if cant take being pushed n pulled by authority etc. if they think you just want to rebel against the system they make it harder for you, but if all u want is to flow with the system they make it easier for u. so this is what u want em to think of you. u was a great pupil at school and was always willing to learn more and gain qualifications . then u left school and got a job and like anybody else struggled on up until today when u had no choice but to make a little extra money as u tried everything else and always hit a brick wall because of how the system works.blah blah blah.
anyway u realize it was a dumb thing to do and u are unlikely to do it again as u have just hit that brick wall again but this time realized it was your fault all along. its upto you to climb over the brick wall not run into it. thats what u want them to think regardless if u think that or not.
then u want em to know that all u now want is to do it like anybody else does and get a good job n settle down get married have kids (then get screwed by the system again when its all going good lol) anyway if u get your pre sentence report bang on they then decide what sort of sentence to give u and they put u into 1 of 3 categories.
1-custody inevitable - 2 custody possible - 3. public sentence- i.e probation etc- basically 3 is jail 2 is all options open - 3 is a community punishment that u do within the community - i.e probation - community service - fines etc -
now u wanna leave the probation with number 1 right - community order - not 3 -custody inevitable. so u gotta convince the probation that u are unlikely to offend again and u have learned your lesson and shown remorse for what u did.
then u will most likely get 1 a community order. if its a serious offense but u swing the probation officer in your favor u likely get 2-all options- but if u upset the probation or prove your gonna re offend or you offer no solution to your own problems they will go for 3-custody inevitable. now that dont mean you will goto jail. thats just the pre sentence proposal and its still upto the judges on the day.
now depending on how serious your case is will determine which courts you goto. if it is a commercial charge u likley start off in magistrates then get bailed to goto crown where it all hits the fan. if u going to crown mate , u probly going to jail too.
its not very common to end up in crown for growing so it wud have to be a big operation to get into crown but u cud end up in crown because u have other charges alongside the weed that get delt with at crown in 1 go, its been known although not likely but when it does happen your sentences run concurrent with each other anyway so u end up not really doing any time for the weed just for the serious crimes.
anyway i hope this has informed u of the likely procedures u will go through if ever caught for doing sumthing so damn (+) because of (-) people.
i hope none of u ever have to go through this crap as its truly unjust for people like myself who just want a (+) thing to cum from it. but life is unjust. anyway hopefully sum1 will remember this wen they hear that knock at the door- dont answer it m8.
think i only got through one word looked down and said fuck that hahahaha
