• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

Poll: On Climate Change

What do you think about Global Warming?

  • Its Plausible; Not sure

    Votes: 2 4.8%
  • Its all a big Hoax, I dont believe in Global Warming

    Votes: 18 42.9%
  • Its happening right now, I believe in Global Warming

    Votes: 22 52.4%

  • Total voters
    42

jeff f

New Member
The question is not faulty it is just moving in another direction.
I would have to say yes to the Second question. Man can severely impact the earth to the point that it negatively affects man (and or the earth)
Case in point, Love Canal, Chernobyl, Three mile Island, Exxon Valdez, India's ship dismantling yards, Chinas exorbant amount of pollution from their largely dirty coal fired powered plants. Closer to home, older landfills that leak Mercury and other heavy metals into our water supply. Pit mines that do the same. Waste water treatment plants that expel the "treated" water out into our oceans. (I read somewhere that the city of Los Angeles uses over 1 Billion gallons of fresh water every day just to flush toilets.) Keep in mind that the L.A. basin gets a portion of its water from the Colorado river that in some summers never reaches the ocean.
The same goes for our rivers being polluted. The run-off from our roads and concrete jungles that we call cities delivers so many toxins into our streams (and drains) that surfers and beach goers are warned not to go into the water for Two to Three weeks after it rains.
We collectively have had and are having a profound negative affect on the Earth. Plain and simple there are just too many of us worldwide for the planet and all of her resources to support for an indefinite amount of time.
I agree with the above in regards to global warming. It is just another money scam. Carbon offset credits do NOTHING to curb emissions or pollution. They only provide another way for big money to get bigger.
Modern fuels (gasoline and No.2 Diesel have been cleaned up many times. Diesel in the way of lower Sulpher content and Gasoline in the way of Ethanol blends.
Heres food for thought in regards to fuels. The Sulpher that is removed from the Diesel fuel is then added to Jet fuel, otherwise know as Kerosene. Further more Diesel users have seen a decline in mileage per gallon of fuel.
Gasoline with Ethanol has seen the same reduction in milage. Add to that the additional infrastructure that is required to support the Ethanol is emmense.
Drive through the Dakota's and Ohio. What would you see? Corn fields that dissapear into the horizon. They go on for miles. What is needed to grow this corn? PETROLIUM... Imagine that.
So, what have we gained from any of this? Cleaner fuel, maybe slighlty cleaner but I personally feel that the reduced milage per gallon has negated any benifet from cleaner fuels. (only because we burn more to do the same thing)
Its all about money, plain and simple.
There is a Rollitup member whos sig line read something to the affect of "if they cant tax it they wil just make it illegal"
Its all about money!

Sorry for the rant.
By the way awesome avitar. She rocks!

i agree with what you said but that is why the question is faulty. you are gonna get one anser that doesnt tell you anything. of course man can pollute and affect mankind. nobody is arguing that. the argument is are we causing the earths temperature to rise, if it even is rising.

avatar, she is 46 three kids. ive fucked 21 year olds that didnt have a body like hers....perfect :hump::hump::hump::hump:
 

jeff f

New Member
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/International/2009/12/21/Philippine-eruption-termed-imminent/UPI-81041261445058/

MANILA, Philippines, Dec. 21 (UPI) -- The Philippines' most active volcano could erupt within days, scientists say, and tens of thousands are fleeing their homes in the foothills of the mountain.




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will probably spue ten times the total amount of man made polutants in five seconds.

this will totally destroy the scam of global warming. after pinatubo exploded, world wide weather patterns changed for twenty years. (look it up)and unlike the global warming goons, the weather patterns of pinitubo are well documented and provable. be prepaired for about a 3-5 degree decrease in global temp. i am so exited, this is gonna be fucking hillarious!!

its all coming undone. the truth will set you free!!:hump::hump::hug::hug::hug::weed::weed::bigjoint::clap::clap::clap::clap::-P:-P:-P:-P
 

jeff f

New Member
will probably spue ten times the total amount of man made polutants in five seconds.

this will totally destroy the scam of global warming. after pinatubo exploded, world wide weather patterns changed for twenty years. (look it up)and unlike the global warming goons, the weather patterns of pinitubo are well documented and provable. be prepaired for about a 3-5 degree decrease in global temp. i am so exited, this is gonna be fucking hillarious!!

its all coming undone. the truth will set you free!!:hump::hump::hug::hug::hug::weed::weed::bigjoint::clap::clap::clap::clap::-P:-P:-P:-P
[edit] Global environmental effects


Space Shuttle (Mission STS-43) photograph of the Earth over South America taken on August 8, 1991, showing double layer of Pinatubo aerosol cloud (dark streaks) above high cumulonimbus tops


The powerful eruption of such an enormous volume of lava and ash injected significant quantities of aerosols and dust into the stratosphere. Sulfur dioxide oxidised in the atmosphere to produce a haze of sulfuric acid droplets, which gradually spread throughout the stratosphere over the year following the eruption. The injection of aerosols into the stratosphere is thought to have been the largest since the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, with a total mass of SO2 of about 17 million tons being injected—the largest volume ever recorded by modern instruments (see chart and figure).
This very large stratospheric injection resulted in a reduction in the normal amount of sunlight reaching the Earth's surface by roughly 10% (see figure). This led to a decrease in northern hemisphere average temperatures of 0.5–0.6 °C (0.9–1.1 °F), and a global fall of about 0.4 °C (0.7 °F). At the same time, the temperature in the stratosphere rose to several degrees higher than normal, due to absorption of radiation by the aerosols. The stratospheric cloud from the eruption persisted in the atmosphere for three years after the eruption.

Satellite measurements of ash and aerosol emissions from Mount Pinatubo.


The eruption had a significant effect on ozone levels in the atmosphere, causing a large increase in the destruction rate of ozone. Ozone levels at mid-latitudes reached their lowest recorded levels, while in the southern hemisphere winter of 1992, the ozone hole over Antarctica reached its largest ever size until then, with the fastest recorded ozone depletion rates. The eruption of Mount Hudson in Chile in August 1991 also contributed to southern hemisphere ozone destruction, with measurements showing a sharp decrease in ozone levels at the tropopause when the aerosol clouds from Pinatubo and Hudson arrived.
Another noticeable effect of the dust in the atmosphere was the appearance of lunar eclipses. Normally even at mid-eclipse, the moon is still visible although much dimmed, but in the year following the Pinatubo eruption, the moon was hardly visible at all during eclipses, due to much greater absorption of sunlight by dust in the atmosphere.


[edit] The area since 1991


Mount Pinatubo's caldera contains a lake of the same name, pictured here in 2008


Following the climactic eruption of June 15, 1991, activity at the volcano continued at a much lower level, with continuous ash eruptions lasting until August 1991 and episodic eruptions continuing for another month. Activity then remained low until July 1992, when a new lava dome began to grow in the caldera.
This dome appeared to be composed of fresh lava from the deep magma reservoir beneath the volcano, rather than material 'left over' in a shallow reservoir from the 1991 eruption. Thus, volcanologists suspected that further violent eruptions could be possible, and some areas were once again evacuated. However, the eruption did not become violent, perhaps due to outgassing from the deep reservoir reducing the explosivity of the lava reaching the surface. Since 1992, the volcano has not been erupting.
The Aeta people were the hardest hit by the eruption. The total destruction of many villages by pyroclasts and lahar deposits meant that many Aeta were unable to return to their former way of life. After the areas surrounding the volcano were declared safe to return to, those whose villages had not been destroyed moved back, but most people moved instead to government-organized resettlement areas. Conditions on these were poor, with each family receiving only small plots of land, which were not ideal for growing crops. Many Aeta found casual labor working for lowland farmers, and overall Aeta society became much more fragmented, and reliant on and integrated with lowland culture.
After eruptions ended, a crater lake, Lake Pinatubo, formed in the 1991 caldera, with the 1992 lava dome forming an island. At first, the lake was small, hot and highly acidic, with a minimum pH of 2 and a temperature of about 40 °C. Abundant rainfall cooled and diluted the lake, lowering the temperature to 26 °C and raising the pH to 5.5 by 2003.
The lake increased in depth by about 1 meter per month on average, until September 2001, when fears that the walls of the crater might be unstable prompted the Philippine government to order a controlled draining of the lake. 9,000 people were once again evacuated from surrounding areas in case a large flood was accidentally triggered. Workers cut a 5 m notch in the crater rim, and successfully drained about a quarter of the lake's volume.


just added some tidbits of the SCIENCEsurrounding a single volcano. for the record, there are roughly 300 volcanos per year
 

jeff f

New Member
please read what i just posted. this is what happens. educate yourselves and stop being fed bullshit. i beg you:cry:
 

jeff f

New Member
this is it last week, ....



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all we can do is pray for these people. all our political bullshit on here is just that bullshit. this is real people losing real family. may GOD, have mercy on their souls.
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
 

curioushiker

Active Member
may GOD, have mercy on their souls.
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
I would not have asked if you had not typed this. How many that know anything about the Bible actually believe that what is going on today has been written in the Bible and taught for Centuries?
I dont want to hi jack this thread but I personally think it is relevant.
 

CSI Stickyicky

Well-Known Member
Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you.

People in power will make money off anything they can. Just because the politicians involved are corrupt, (big surprise there. Politicians corrupt, who would have thunk it?) doesn't mean that global warming isnt a real issue. Listen to the scientists, not the politicians. The big companies that make it their business to burn fossil fuels, (releasing CO2 thats been trapped since before humans acclimated themselves to this earth) also have a lot of money to slip to Johnny Senator, who then puts in place a system to make you think the company is working on pollution.
 

abe23

Active Member
Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you.

People in power will make money off anything they can. Just because the politicians involved are corrupt, (big surprise there. Politicians corrupt, who would have thunk it?) doesn't mean that global warming isnt a real issue. Listen to the scientists, not the politicians. The big companies that make it their business to burn fossil fuels, (releasing CO2 thats been trapped since before humans acclimated themselves to this earth) also have a lot of money to slip to Johnny Senator, who then puts in place a system to make you think the company is working on pollution.
I used to think to too, but I have been educated by people on this board: the scientists are at the top of the conspiracy pyramid. They're the ones making all this crap up so that they can get more science grants. The politicians are getting played as well....
This whole debate is just scientists trying to manipulate us to suit their own agenda. The big polluters only pay off your congressman is so that he can spread the truth and fight back against the alarmist scientists and their conspiracy! And if you disagree, it's because you're a socialist who wants obama the secret muslim commie to sell america to the UN.
 

curioushiker

Active Member
I used to think to too, but I have been educated by people on this board: the scientists are at the top of the conspiracy pyramid. They're the ones making all this crap up so that they can get more science grants. The politicians are getting played as well....
This whole debate is just scientists trying to manipulate us to suit their own agenda. The big polluters only pay off your congressman is so that he can spread the truth and fight back against the alarmist scientists and their conspiracy! And if you disagree, it's because you're a socialist who wants obama the secret muslim commie to sell america to the UN.
Could not have said it better.
 

CSI Stickyicky

Well-Known Member
And if you disagree, it's because you're a socialist who wants obama the secret muslim commie to sell america to the UN.
I was listening until that part. :shock:
If i respectfully disagree in a rational discussion amongst supposed adults, that doesn't make me a socialist, or a bad American.
 
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