Poor seedlings

Og grumble

Og grumble

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Tim1987 said:
Cool.
Sounds good then.
Soooo what's the problem? :bigjoint:

You're right man. This is a good one.
Maybe transplant isn't necessary.

What's the ph, of the mix you used?
Did you check it before you potted?
Is there any extra lying around, you can test?
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I transplanted anyway, and they had some crazy good root development even tho they are tiny. Backed up the light a few inches. I might have just been overwatering.
I didnt test the ph before potting, i should have but like i said its 80%perlite/vermiculite.
I should have made one change at a time to pinpoint whatever the problem is. But i didnt think about it till now.
 
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Og grumble said:
I transplanted anyway, and they had some crazy good root development even tho they are tiny. Backed up the light a few inches. I might have just been overwatering.
I didnt test the ph before potting, i should have but like i said its 80%perlite/vermiculite.
I should have made one change at a time to pinpoint whatever the problem is. But i didnt think about it till now.
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Good luck OG.
Hope they come good.
 
Final2x

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Possibly mildew or mold? If the white substance is diatomaceous earth, I would wash it off the leaves because you're blocking precious leaf surface that would otherwise be collecting light.

What's your humidity?

Origin of soil/ compost, is it store bought?
 
Og grumble

Og grumble

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Final2x said:
Possibly mildew or mold? If the white substance is diatomaceous earth, I would wash it off the leaves because you're blocking precious leaf surface that would otherwise be collecting light.

What's your humidity?

Origin of soil/ compost, is it store bought?
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Rh is between 25-40 fluctuating. Yes its all storebought.
 
Og grumble

Og grumble

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Well a better pic would really help
Edit:
Really not trying to be a dick. I just cant really see anything in the cup at all.
Addlesee93 said:
Hello could anyone help at all please can anyone tell me what wrong with this please just been like this for 2-3 days now hardly any change at all just don't know if they are going in the right direction any help please
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Og grumble

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Final2x said:
Low humidity could be your issue friend. For seedings and veg you wanna be up near 55-65% RH for optimal growth.

I would recommend buying a desktop humidifier for your grow area.
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Yea i knew it was low just didnt think it would really be that big of a deal. Problem with humidifying is those seedlings arent all i have going. I have 3 flowering in a tent in the same room. And the rh in that tent is like 30% higher from all the vegetation. So 50% rh for the seedlings turns into 80% in the flower tent.
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So its not actually 30% higher. Right now its 18% higher
 
Og grumble

Og grumble

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Final2x said:
Low humidity could be your issue friend. For seedings and veg you wanna be up near 55-65% RH for optimal growth.

I would recommend buying a desktop humidifier for your grow area.
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Unless i can get a really small humidifier that isnt big enough to affect the whole room and just isolate it near the seedlings
 
Final2x

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Og grumble said:
Yea i knew it was low just didnt think it would really be that big of a deal. Problem with humidifying is those seedlings arent all i have going. I have 3 flowering in a tent in the same room. And the rh in that tent is like 30% higher from all the vegetation. So 50% rh for the seedlings turns into 80% in the flower tent.
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So its not actually 30% higher. Right now its 18% higher
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Alright so from what I've gathered, you have a room with a veg and seedling area; within that room, is a tent with plants flowering. Your "room" RH is 18%, and your "tent" RH is 50%.

In my general experience you would be need an industrial sized humidifier to change your tent RH drastically, so I wouldn't worry about that at all.

Here are some issues associated with low humidity:

  • Wilting
  • Dry leaves
  • Decreased growth rate
  • Curling of the leaf tips
  • Tip decay
I believe these issues correlate to your pictures, although that doesn't mean causation.


So yeah, you'll need a desktop humidifier. They're small and discrete. I would look on amazon, or the big department stores.

Some basic brands are: vicks vapour rub, pure guardian, and a host of others that sell them for kids rooms.


You're not looking to change the humidity of the entire room, just around your seedings. What I do is set up the humidifier close to the plants and use a small computer fan to blow humid air directly on to the young plants.

Hope this helped
 
Final2x

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Addlesee93 said:
Hello could anyone help at all please can anyone tell me what wrong with this please just been like this for 2-3 days now hardly any change at all just don't know if they are going in the right direction any help please
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From what I can see, you're having two issues. Over watering, and low humidity.

For humidity, refer to my precious post.

For watering, keep the soil uniformly moist, not water logged(yours looks waterlogged so use that as a reference now) . Let the surface dry about 1/4 of and inch(about half your thumb nail) before watering agin. Discipline is the key.

Good luck.
 
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Og grumble said:
Well a better pic would really help
Edit:
Really not trying to be a dick. I just cant really see anything in the cup at all.
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Final2x said:
From what I can see, you're having two issues. Over watering, and low humidity.

For humidity, refer to my precious post.

For watering, keep the soil uniformly moist, not water logged(yours looks waterlogged so use that as a reference now) . Let the surface dry about 1/4 of and inch(about half your thumb nail) before watering agin. Discipline is the key.

Good luck.
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Great thanks final2x I think I need luck think this one isn't any good will keep it going a few days tl see if it improves if not will maybe buy little humidifier thanks
 
Og grumble

Og grumble

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Final2x said:
Alright so from what I've gathered, you have a room with a veg and seedling area; within that room, is a tent with plants flowering. Your "room" RH is 18%, and your "tent" RH is 50%.

In my general experience you would be need an industrial sized humidifier to change your tent RH drastically, so I wouldn't worry about that at all.

Here are some issues associated with low humidity:

  • Wilting
  • Dry leaves
  • Decreased growth rate
  • Curling of the leaf tips
  • Tip decay
I believe these issues correlate to your pictures, although that doesn't mean causation.


So yeah, you'll need a desktop humidifier. They're small and discrete. I would look on amazon, or the big department stores.

Some basic brands are: vicks vapour rub, pure guardian, and a host of others that sell them for kids rooms.


You're not looking to change the humidity of the entire room, just around your seedings. What I do is set up the humidifier close to the plants and use a small computer fan to blow humid air directly on to the young plants.

Hope this helped
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Close. You're mostly correct. In one room i have the seedlings in a veg box and thats at 30% rh. In the same room i have a flower tent that was 18% higher last night at 48% it went down this morning to 40%. I just meant the rh was 18% higher in the tent. But yes they are in the same room.
Very thorough, thank you very much. Those seem to be the exact symptoms i am seeing here so ill grab a humidifier.
 
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