Possible changes on Sept. 7th. . .

It looks like most of our reps are powerless regarding the proposed changes to the MMJ law coming on September 7th. At least they say they are. Here is a respones from mine:

"Thank you for contacting your 103rd district office and for sharing your thoughts regarding some of the upcoming legislation regarding the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act. All of these bills have been referred to the Judiciary Committee for testimony, of which Rep. Rendon is not a member. However, we will track their progress and share your thoughts with Rep. Rendon should they come to the entire House for a vote. Please feel free to continue to contact our office with any questions."

So I've compiled the e-mail addresses of the Reps who sit on the Judiciary Committe for you guys to send in your thoughts so that they're heard by the right people. Just copy/paste this list into your 'To' bar and you're good to go:

Here is the list of changes copied from a previous thread:

stumpjumper said:

I stole this from MMMlounge.com This is the best compiled list of proposed ammendments on the web. These will be voted for on Sept 7th.SB 377

SB 377 http://tinyurl.com/3n4acls (gives police hit list)

HB 4661 http://tinyurl.com/HB4661 (illegal to grow 500 ft of school etc)

SB 17 http://tinyurl.com/2011MISB17 (outlaws compassion clubs)

SB 504 http://tinyurl.com/2011SB504 (illegal to transfer around schools etc)

SB 418 http://tinyurl.com/2011MISB418 (can't sue cities)

SB 505 http://tinyurl.com/2011MISB505 (excludes all felons)

HB 4852 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4852 (Have to follow local ordinances)

HB 4397 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4397 (Outlaw Compassion Clubs)

HB 4850 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4850 (Outlaw all but caregiver to specific patient transactions)

HB 4851 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4851 (Bonefide Patient doctor relationship and touches on locked and secured building)

HB 4856 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4856 (Open intox except with Marijuana)

HB 4854 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4854 (Makes it illegal to advertise as a caregiver)

SB 506 http://tinyurl.com/2011MISB506 (bonefide Patient doctor relationship)

HB 4834 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4834 (photo on card)

HB 4853 http://tinyurl.com/2011MIHB4853 (makes felony to sell to someone without card)

SB 321 http://tinyurl.com/2011MISB321 (insurance can't cover MMJ)

SB 618 http://tinyurl.com/2011MISB618 (only 10 companies can grow MMJ. SB616, SB617 Also part of package)

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good looking out!!

So let's start pushing for legalization and give this medical shit a break!

simple , we just vote No

sniffer said:

simple , we just vote No

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"We" don't get to vote on this. That's the entire issue. All we can do is contact the Reps and give our thoughts. Hopefully they take them into consideration instead of using their own personal opinions/feelings like Bill Shuette does. Bill's 'my way or the highway' attitude about everything is getting really old, really quick.

Sending out an e-mail tonight to the Reps above.


Good thread.

Mupphet.Man said:

So let's start pushing for legalization and give this medical shit a break!

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IMO decriminalization is first then legalization

jesus of Cannabis said:

IMO decriminalization is first then legalization

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My opinion exactly, JoC. I lived in California last year when the Control and Tax Cannabis Act was on the ballot, I even did a decent size presentation on it for college in hopes to garner more support. All of the polls in the months leading up to the election showed overwhelming support for the proposal. As the polls became closer and closer to the actual election though, they began losing support. People started to get scared since it is admittedly a large change, even over there. People are not ready to go from illegal to legal in a single step. People need to 'ease' into it. Once (if) it becomes decriminalized the people will need to see that MJ smokers are not the monsters that we are made out to be by Federal organizations. We can do this by legalizing it for medical purposes, then decriminalize, and finally legalization. By taking small steps, it will become legal soon enough, of that I am certain.

jamiesname said:

My opinion exactly, JoC. I lived in California last year when the Control and Tax Cannabis Act was on the ballot, I even did a decent size presentation on it for college in hopes to garner more support. All of the polls in the months leading up to the election showed overwhelming support for the proposal. As the polls became closer and closer to the actual election though, they began losing support. People started to get scared since it is admittedly a large change, even over there. People are not ready to go from illegal to legal in a single step. People need to 'ease' into it. Once (if) it becomes decriminalized the people will need to see that MJ smokers are not the monsters that we are made out to be by Federal organizations. We can do this by legalizing it for medical purposes, then decriminalize, and finally legalization. By taking small steps, it will become legal soon enough, of that I am certain.

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jamiesname said:

My opinion exactly, JoC. I lived in California last year when the Control and Tax Cannabis Act was on the ballot, I even did a decent size presentation on it for college in hopes to garner more support. All of the polls in the months leading up to the election showed overwhelming support for the proposal. As the polls became closer and closer to the actual election though, they began losing support. People started to get scared since it is admittedly a large change, even over there. People are not ready to go from illegal to legal in a single step. People need to 'ease' into it. Once (if) it becomes decriminalized the people will need to see that MJ smokers are not the monsters that we are made out to be by Federal organizations. We can do this by legalizing it for medical purposes, then decriminalize, and finally legalization. By taking small steps, it will become legal soon enough, of that I am certain.

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The truth is, about half of people over 18 here in my state have smoked cannabis. Who exactly, and what exactly are we easing them into? I have lived in California, and I can only rightfully assume that number is equivocal or greater. I think you're wrong, I sincerely do. People know this is a harmless drug, even a lot of non-smokers. Everyone who has any kind of college education can testify that while it gives people the munchies, it definitely doesn't hurt a soul. At least if your Alma-mater was anything like mine.

I think all we are doing is pushing pawns around the board here. Medical is a joke. While cannabis genuinely has medical benefits for those with CERTAIN ailments, more than three quarters of people who have it, are lying to get it. Probably even yourself.

This doesn't help our cause, no, it hurts it. People are already laughing at the medical movement. The feds are irrate that it has caught on, (and I'm sure that won't bode well), and people without cards by and large consider it a scam. Which, it basically is.

Mupphet.Man said:

The truth is, about half of people over 18 here in my state have smoked cannabis. Who exactly, and what exactly are we easing them into? I have lived in California, and I can only rightfully assume that number is equivocal or greater. I think you're wrong, I sincerely do. People know this is a harmless drug, even a lot of non-smokers. Everyone who has any kind of college education can testify that while it gives people the munchies, it definitely doesn't hurt a soul. At least if your Alma-mater was anything like mine.

I think all we are doing is pushing pawns around the board here. Medical is a joke. While cannabis genuinely has medical benefits for those with CERTAIN ailments, more than three quarters of people who have it, are lying to get it. Probably even yourself.

This doesn't help our cause, no, it hurts it. People are already laughing at the medical movement. The feds are irrate that it has caught on, (and I'm sure that won't bode well), and people without cards by and large consider it a scam. Which, it basically is.

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It's a scam because of how the law is written. It's not my fault nor any other legit users fault that people are abusing the loopholes. You can't blame people that smoke weed to want to have a legal card though. They are going to smoke regardless so why not do it without worries of prosecution is it's so easy to get.

i agree with muphet man i use for actual medical reasons and if people screw it up just cause they wanna smoke doesnt mean im going to stop when they do away with the mmc . card or no smokers will smoke just the way theyve been smoking for the past 40 years, as will i as i have for the past 15 yrs.

The marijuana community as a whole needs to stand the fuk up!! The homosexual community has, and they're to the point now they can get married and adopt children, Hell they're lifestyle is all over the television and that movement is still pretty young. What type of country is it when you have laws but they are only enforced on the middle and lower classes, I'm so tired of politians and entertainers getting slaps on the wrist for multiple DUIs and cocaine possessions and they need to start drug testing them mofos instead of factory workers and florist, maybe then we'd get out of debt ( can't have 1000 powderheads controlling your money or you'll always come up short, that's one expensive habit.)

First let me say I have nothing against homosexuals to each his own but when it's more acceptable by this country laws to have the right to be gay, than to have to right to smoke a harmless drug, yes harmless "drug", I have to start wondering what's really going on. I have never heard of a weed related death from overdose but the drugs they flood my neighborhoods with like alcohol and cigarettes do.

Maybe if we start paying lobbyist to go to bat for us we can probably get this shit legalized sooner, that shit is as American as apple pie, you gotta pay to play eh?

I'd personally rather my kids see a growshop on every corner than men and women being gay together in public and on tv. I do accept that gay's are gay's. But all of this "gay awareness" bullshit is a double edged sword in my opinion. I don't want to get into that arguement here though. I agree with you 100% though Symbiote420.

Oh yeah I'm tired of the so called "upper class" mofos getting away with murder too, while others go to jail for crimes they haven't committed. WTF?

If some of the bills pass on the 7th how long till they take affect?

Quick enough for them to arrest you the next day.

Here's a compilation of all the e-mail addresses for all of Michigan's Senators. Copy/paste it just like the e-mail addresses for the House of Representative's Judiciary Committee in the original post; fill in your opinions regarding the proposed legislation, and click send. Every Senator in the State will get your e-mail.

Here's the compilation of Senators:





And for the sake of having all the info on one page, here's the House of Representative's Judiciary Committee again:

[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]

Lets get real, the marijuana lobby if their even is one has not the money, power, or influence that big pharmaceuticals and big tobacco have.
If marijuana is such a dangerous drug that must be outlawed, or have so many roadblocks put up for patients to get and stay legal.
So dangerous that the AG must continue the crusade despite what a large majority voted for, if it really is that unsafe and dangerous
and changes must be made to twist a simple law into what politicians are more comfortable with which are tombs of unreadable garbage
and doublespeak you need eight years of schooling to understand.
Now put that next to this undeniable fact, Follow the directions on a pack of cigs, use them as directed and you have a great chance to die. Next to that list alcohol related deaths over the period the MMJ law has been in existance. Then ask yourself
Whos saftey is the AG looking out for in his unrelenting morality crusade against MMJ.
The republicans like to chant the mantra government shouldn't get involved and force socialized medicine on to its people.
They should also keep their collective noses out of the healthcare choices we do make. That goes for dictating what a doctor patient relationship is, or what conditions warrent the government allowing a doctor to recommend a particular drug.
Rules that were thought up seeming over night by our AG, and taylored to one single specific drug he morally objects to.
63% of us await the time we start to get our representation. With hopes that representation has all the zeal the AG does representing
the minority of nixonish fear mongering chicken littles.

quit making this a republican issue-

mike cox is PRO MMj.

who did you vote for?

also-

wouldn't it be cool if we could get a bunch of black t shirt's and print "STATE PRISONER" on them.