Possible method for control of spider mites with a cool mist system

forex5x

Active Member
I am experiencing spider mites in flowers. I don't like the idea of using pesticides so this is what I am thinking:

- get a cool mist humidifier and fog the grow area
- possible formula one - isopropyl alcohol and H2O2
- possible formula two - rosemary oil
- possible formula three - habenero juice

For these I would use the cool misters which work by having a high frequency vibration put mist into the air. There are other humidifiers that use heat to put the moisture up into the air. I might consider this more for the habenero juice than the other formulas with the thought that the heat may work better.

The goal of this is to make a fog that reaches into the flowers without negative effects that pesticides might leave.

I have done some research and this if it has been done has not to my knowledge been reported on the Internet.

It would be nice to have a safe and effective method to at least knock the mites back.

I have tried lady bugs but they tended to fly away even with coating them with a 50/50 coke (soda) and water mixture.
I also am currently trying to use lace wings and I think they are okay but the spider mites are currently still winning.

If I could just power up the mister once a week and have reasonable control this could be a new technique to this all to common problem.

My main goal is to make some medibles with the current crop to see if I can find a medicated solution to digestive issues I have.
According to my doctor that digestive system has a lot of nerves in it and where others may get a migraine I get a stomach migraine of sorts.
I don't think the mites will harm the making of medibles but it is yet to be proven by me.

If anyone has any input I would like to hear of it.
Best wishes and good growing.
 

sandiegojack2

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I understand your thinking but it is flawed!! use mighty wash no chem's and no bug's...you want to smoke spider mite's or worse there egg's (vissible under any magnification!) then by all mean's experiment!! A fool try's your crap and pay's the price ...I hope you smarten up..jack ps really don't want humidity to rise in flower!!!! MOLD MILDEW.......MIST???SWAMP COOLER TOO?? Really?
 

forex5x

Active Member
About using the Azmax in the water....not sure that it has any systemic power but maybe it is moving into the air somehow. So, not sure if you are on to something or just lucky so far. If it works after an infestation that would be a more conclusive result. Hopefully for you, you just never get infected. Maybe also as the travel from the floor to the plant their is a poison moat.



The idea wouldn't be to run the cool mist all the time just for an hour with one of the formulas to hopefully kill the mites.
Putting a 50/50 blend of iso and H2O2 for a half hour would put the hurt on the mites.
Potentially it could also be used with Mighty Wash to get into the leaf mass.
I am not sure what the active ingredient in Mighty Wash is. If my memory is correct it is some kind of activated water...which still leaves me wondering if they are using something more powerful but undisclosed.

I can concur on the humidity though as I am in the moist state of Oregon and humidity just with the one plant is hovering at 55 - 65%.
Another grower said he used a dehumidifier and that may be next on my list.

Thank you both for your input.
 

lahadaextranjera

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Neem oil is not a pesticide and is more pleasurable to smoke than bud mold from high RH.

We all recommend Neem oil for this so why not try a very dilute mix as a spray well b4 the light go on?
 

medicalmary

Active Member
the alcohol will evaporate. I think the hydrogen peroxide will just break down into water and hydrogen when you agitate. The pepper oil will probably not turn into an aerosol because it is pretty heavy. If it does anyone in the vicinity will have to wash there eyes out immediately. Do not put any kind of insecticide in such a device. There are very specific ways to apply these things that require droplet size hundred of micron larger than a mist. With the wrong insecticide you could hurt yourself and others. Please use all products as directed.

mm
 

medicalmary

Active Member
neem oil is an insecticide. use it as directed. it smells and tastes terrible. so beware to not spray on buds.
 

Slipon

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I new to indoor growing .. and dont have spider mites (thanks God) but years ago when I grew out side it was one of my biggest fears :)

was thinking ..
lets say you get em and cant kill em and only controle em untill haverst ..
could you then make oil or hash/kif of it ? or would the egs/pop/mites still affect the smoke in anyway ?
 

medicalmary

Active Member
I new to indoor growing .. and dont have spider mites (thanks God) but years ago when I grew out side it was one of my biggest fears :)

was thinking ..
lets say you get em and cant kill em and only controle em untill haverst ..
could you then make oil or hash/kif of it ? or would the egs/pop/mites still affect the smoke in anyway ?

Once the plants are cut and start to dry the live mites vacate the plants. There are, however, eggs on them still. If you go for a long drying period and the generation of spidermites hatch and vacate, then you will not have bodies on the buds. However, the mites have to go somewhere. So, they will start looking for a new home in the vicinity of where you dry. Secondly, it is not the mite eggs that affect the smoke. It is the damage the mites do to the plant as it is developing flowers that affects the smoke. They suck the lifeforce (chlorophyll) out of you leaves and stunt plants as they develop, which leads to worse results.

mm
 
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