possible tmv?

dbdblack

Member
Hey all, First time grow here so im not 100% sure whats going on, Have a strain growing Afghan kush, First 2 weeks went fine then i started nuting her, seemed to do ok for a while but now she looks real rough, After having a good read on the TMV thread on here i thought i would start my own and get some second opinions on what could be going on,

my plant is showing some strong signs of tmv however im not sure, i've posted up a heap of photos, she's had 2 flushs now and the burning spots/ rough new leaf growth doesnt seem to be stopping,

first 2 weeks of growing i was flying blind with ph and ppm, but i ended up investing in a digital ph pen and a bluelab truncheon meter, for the last 3 weeks i say the ph has between 5.8 6.5 and a ec of no higher than 1.6

nutes i was using is 'Green dream' 'Nutriboost Concentrate' (cheap ripoff of rhizotonic apprently) and "Cannazym" plant seemed to like the first week of nutes but is now looking like the pictures i have below, If you have any queries just let me know,

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Has anyone grown afghan Kush before? i just find it weird how the first sets of leaves e.t.c was real nice and smooth and now all the new growth is rough as guts?
 

MrGhettoGrower

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You can't be flying blind with ph and ppms!
Sorry Dude I don't have a magic bullet for ya!
You could even post this in the hydro section
it would fit in real good over there:clap:
 

suTraGrow

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You can't be flying blind with ph and ppms!
Sorry Dude I don't have a magic bullet for ya!
You could even post this in the hydro section
it would fit in real good over there:clap:
Yes that why he said that he went out and got one! Learn to finish reading before you get excited and post ;)
He never asked you for a magic bullet just a simple response not a cynical asshole one!
Umm why would he hes having Plant Problems which is why he posted it in the Marijuana Plant Problems section! makes sense now huh....
I think your post would fit real good in the dam trash sure as hell doesn't belong here good job on being a douche bag tho. :clap:

To the op. Get some cal-mag your plants seem to be throwing mag/cal deficiency. Are you using any NPK nutrients at all??
 

dbdblack

Member
You can't be flying blind with ph and ppms!
Sorry Dude I don't have a magic bullet for ya!
You could even post this in the hydro section
it would fit in real good over there:clap:
hehe well it was only the first 2 weeks of growth i was flying blind, i wasnt nuting her at that stage anyway had those crappy pool/spa ph test strips, got the digi pen and trucnehon meter now ;p
 

dbdblack

Member
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Yes that why he said that he went out and got one! Learn to finish reading before you get excited and post ;)
He never asked you for a magic bullet just a simple response not a cynical asshole one!
Umm why would he hes having Plant Problems which is why he posted it in the Marijuana Plant Problems section! makes sense now huh....
I think your post would fit real good in the dam trash sure as hell doesn't belong here good job on being a douche bag tho. :clap:
thanks mate, his post made me feel a little uncomfortable :( just trying to get some other opinions, anyway :) posted a pic up of the nutes i'm currently using cheers all
 

suTraGrow

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thanks mate, his post made me feel a little uncomfortable :( just trying to get some other opinions, anyway :) posted a pic up of the nutes i'm currently using cheers all
Hmm got no idea why there a jug of hydrochloric acid in there but i sure as hell hope your not feeding your plants that. You need to get some real nutrients with a NPK value and trace minerals. I would suggest J.R Peters cheap prices very very nice results. You can also usee the Canna Part A&B or House and garden A&B or Botinacare there a few hundreds different ones out there.
 

jaybee007

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U need some proper food mate
They look starving lol
Other than that there not 2 bad
How often r watering look a little over/under watered
Judging by the saggy leaves
I've had a lot worse looking plants that ur's trust me lol
Good luck man
Keep it up
 

dbdblack

Member
Hmm got no idea why there a jug of hydrochloric acid in there but i sure as hell hope your not feeding your plants that. You need to get some real nutrients with a NPK value and trace minerals. I would suggest J.R Peters cheap prices very very nice results. You can also usee the Canna Part A&B or House and garden A&B or Botinacare there a few hundreds different ones out there.

O ok.....so i shouldnt be using hydrochloric acid to bring my tap waters ph down?....my tap waters ph comes out at 7.4 and a ec of 0.2 i use just a tiny tiny drop of hydrochloric acid and gets the ph down to 6.5....if i shouldnt be using that then thats a big fu* up on my behalf, heard from someone hydrochloric acid is the go?
 

jaybee007

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Hmm got no idea why there a jug of hydrochloric acid in there but i sure as hell hope your not feeding your plants that. You need to get some real nutrients with a NPK value and trace minerals. I would suggest J.R Peters cheap prices very very nice results. You can also usee the Canna Part A&B or House and garden A&B or Botinacare there a few hundreds different ones out there.
very good advise
Also when u do find some nutes stick 2 strict feeding plan
And remember less is always more when ur starting nutes
 

jaybee007

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Want ur ph not 2 b over 6 mate
The ph down is ok only a tiny bit tho
And try keep the ph between 5.5 and 6
2 much up and down is not good
I have killed a whole room of about 30 plants like that lol
 

dbdblack

Member
U need some proper food mate
They look starving lol
Other than that there not 2 bad
How often r watering look a little over/under watered
Judging by the saggy leaves
I've had a lot worse looking plants that ur's trust me lol
Good luck man
Keep it up
hey thanks for good words!, i'm watering every 2nd day atm .... ,my feeding shedule i go plain ph water then next feed nutes, next feed plain water e.t.c e.t.c...should i just be going nutes every water or should they get that break? she may look a little overwatered as she's had 2 flushs now to try and overcome whats going on... i've got cannazym there...but i do agree with you guys my nute box is a little empty , just so many different varieties to choose from at the local hydro shop here :)

ok so maybe i should give her some nutes hey?
 

dbdblack

Member
Want ur ph not 2 b over 6 mate
The ph down is ok only a tiny bit tho
And try keep the ph between 5.5 and 6
2 much up and down is not good
I have killed a whole room of about 30 plants like that lol
oh man thats no good lol, guess we learn from our mistakes ;p....do you think the rough leaf growth could be from me using hydrochloric acid ac a ph down?
 

suTraGrow

Well-Known Member
O ok.....so i shouldnt be using hydrochloric acid to bring my tap waters ph down?....my tap waters ph comes out at 7.4 and a ec of 0.2 i use just a tiny tiny drop of hydrochloric acid and gets the ph down to 6.5....if i shouldnt be using that then thats a big fu* up on my behalf, heard from someone hydrochloric acid is the go?
Preferably no get some ph down or concentrated lemon juice if you really cant find some ph down. If you get any of the nutrients i have just mention they all have PH Buffers in them that work very efficiently.
 

suTraGrow

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oh man thats no good lol, guess we learn from our mistakes ;p....do you think the rough leaf growth could be from me using hydrochloric acid ac a ph down?
Zinc or Boron deficiency will cause rough leafs. But hmm usually some discoloration is involved.
 

dbdblack

Member
Preferably no get some ph down or concentrated lemon juice if you really cant find some ph down. If you get any of the nutrients i have just mention they all have PH Buffers in them that work very efficiently.
ahh no worries not using the hydrochloric acid anymore, is the fish tank ph down (crystal type) stuff ok, or should i get the liquid ph down from the hydro shop? i dont think here in australia we get the nutes you have mentioned , my hydro shop stocks pretty much all of Cannas Range and alot of Homemade/Australian Ripoff products
 

jaybee007

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Is it just pebbles in there ?
What type of system is it ?
I'm hydro and I feed 2xs a day
1 in the morning and 1 @ night
I would use the nutes every feed
But be careful of build up ?
Test the run off water every few days ?
Do u have a res ?
 

jaybee007

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Canna a&b r fine
That's all use with bait of super thrive in veg
And canna again in flower with some pk and boost
I keep the ec @ 1.8 on veg
And let go 2 around 2.6 or so in bloom
 

dbdblack

Member
Is it just pebbles in there ?
What type of system is it ?
I'm hydro and I feed 2xs a day
1 in the morning and 1 @ night
I would use the nutes every feed
But be careful of build up ?
Test the run off water every few days ?
Do u have a res ?

hey mate im just gorwing in soil, simple system just a run to waste, handwatering, mix is 50/50 Perlite coco mix with about a Inch of cocobeads on the bottom and same for the top, I used to foliar feed when i started them off under CFL's but got told its a bad idea to foliar feed when hps is on, So they havent had a spray for a good 2 weeks now... can i stop spraying them all together or should i continue doing it? I sorta stuffed up at the start when i was mixing my soil in the buckets ...i forgot dolomite lime and worm castings, would it be a good idea to mix up another bucket with dolomite lime and worm castings added in, the only nutes there really getting are from the waterings

As for my light cycle im on a 12-1 Veg system, meaning 12 hours On, 5.5 hours off, 1hour on, 5.5 off and repeats itself,
 

Murfy

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looks like heat stress-

26 for now. has it been hotter?

hydrochloric acid is fine. most down at the shop is phosphoric acid. battery acid is sulfuric acid. do this, 1 gallon distilled water, remove two cups water, replace with i cup battery acid(buy at any auto parts supply). the resulting solution is the same strength as ph down from the shop.

up i smade using lye. same gallon of distilled, add 3 TABLEspoons lye. same as ph down. add blue or orange food coloring at will.

for a bit of learning, seek out riddleme. read his threads. USE make it rain. it will teach you to water, feed, and read your plants for problems. afyer making iit rain for awwhile you will learn your plants and growing will be easy.

happy growing.
 
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