Possible to safely make BHO at an apartment?

Possible to blast safely at apartments?

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 41.2%
  • No

    Votes: 20 58.8%

  • Total voters
    34

Malevolence

New Member
I'm thinking about blasting on my apartment balcony at like 4 in the morning... with a box fan inside blowing out onto the balcony through the screen door for ventilation. My concerns are sparks from the fan motor igniting butane, but I don't think it's likely fumes would get to the fan since it's blowing the air off the balcony. Neighbors below me smoking on their patio... not likely at 4 AM but there is always the chance. Neighbors below me on their patio smelling/hearing me blast.

Would you do it; can it be done safely? Driving around with trim to someone's house and asking them if I can blast butane is not ideal. I am pretty confident this will be safe, but I also have never done this before and have no experience. I have a good month before harvest and am researching as much as possible because I want to do this right and minimize throwing money away and making shitty hash.

Please note I'm not interested in debating whether or not it is moral to grow / make bho in a rented place... this isn't about that.
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
Sounds good to me. I suppose it depends, but as long as your balcony is open and has good airflow.. fans pushing air away from the building, you will be fine. No open flames, stoves.you know think about it and you'll be ok
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
I feel since you are new to this, you need to practice in a safer environment. I've seen very intelligent people do dumb things in an apartment. I myself have pulled stupid moves inside. I respect the safety of other people's property, even as a renter.

Mistakes Will happen, the gratitude depends on the environment and individual(s)

It is also pretty dank smelling. Proper enclosed systems, Indoors, along with a carbon scrubber is highly recommended as a first step.

Open tube blasting in an apartment is an absolute no go. Be smarter.


Unless you plan on spraying less than an oz a month
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
clever behavior killed many a trained scientist, learn to let the alure of doing it go until you can do it without selfish motives. Your going to leave your life in the hands of anonymous people who Do care but at the same time, can't foresee how you'll extrapolate information. If your asking then your not talking about closed loop. I have a problem with you presuming you can control the wind on a balcony for the entire experience. I want to say yes, I mean i've done dangerous things filling up all my gas power tools or using a chainsaw. But I don't know man all my life when i start the bbq it never start's no matter how fancy the starter clicker, 1 out of 3 times i light it I get a belch of fire in the face. I can't seem to ever light a fire consistently thorough time, I don't suppose you control wind and flicked ashes. I use to flick allot of the balcony and it all didn't make the bottom, I hate to add to the "just saying" but man if it's coming to this then some type of warped seduction is happening.
It's not a fire, it's an explosion of fire. I built a 1200f wood burning deck floor heating stove on my front porch, it works like a charm except for the whole burning down the house if my burn tunnel melts at 2100f.

Please, i hope we don't have to open a crisis call center, cuzz honestly I can see why you've worked it out in your brain real bad so you've covered all your basis. But you can't cover wind and other people on a balcony unless your at the penthouse.
I once had a penthouse patio balcony and I think you could easily consider that outdoors. Without a pick of your balcony, all i see in my mind is a 25 story tenement with you on the 13th floor.

Spray safe man.
 

Malevolence

New Member
Wasn't planning on blasting IN the apartment... was talking about on the balcony. I like to think I am cautious/paranoid with explosive shit, which is why I made the thread in the first place to get ideas/opinions. I have inline fan and carbon filter but there is no way I am attempting a closed system. The only other solution I can think of other than doing it on the balcony is running an extension cord out into the woods which is an even worse idea.

Basically I'm going to have to decide if I think it's safe to blast on the balcony and either do it, or I'm going to have to dry sift or try IWE. Running a power chord out into the woods is dumb, telling a friend I grow and transporting a couple ounces of trim and asking to blast at their house is dumb, blasting on the balcony is dumb. Any other ideas or am I just fucked?
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
Had a friend who blasted on his balcony, When the fumes hit his neighbors water heater, which was in a closet on the balcony, the whole place blew up and he wound up in the hospital with major burns.
Just sayin!!!
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
Well I still say that its doable. Fans on your balcony blowing the air away from your building. I live in an apt as well and have done this many times,but I am on the top floor with pretty much no neighbors in my building, I don't know what your balcony looks like but it should be relatively open. The butane won't be able to collect outdoors even if there's not a whole lot of wind. Again with care I think it can be done safely

You could also use a less dangerous solvent like hexane or iso,....I guess ethanol too, ...all 3 can safely be done indoors with good ventilation and care
 

Malevolence

New Member
My unit is pretty much the same... 2 floors I'm on top facing the woods. Wouldn't do it with neighbors outside. No gas lines in the building and the utility closet is in the center of the apartment. $30 box fan from walmart for circulation. I would turn on the pancake griddle before blasting in case of spark. The unit is one of the better scenarios and setup if you have to blast at an apartment....

Something else that crossed my mind was just walking out into the woods with a packed tube and can of butane and jar... do it there.... then come back to my apartment to purge on the balcony.
 

Shawns

Active Member
For any of you to even think this is a good idea you should all take a couple steps back and think like an adult, what if the neighbours balcony door is open, even though your blowing it out of your apartment it's possibly blowing back in to your neighbours. Very stupid idea
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
I am a cautious and somewhat intelligent person. I know that the mixture of butane and oxygen will not get high enough to cause an explosion. A fan pointed at the surface will diapers(lol meant disperse, phone always messes with me) it all into the air away from you.. you might not want to smoke on your balcony but its perfectly safe all around you. Neighbors below won't get a thing, side neighbors could possibly get some drafts but not at high enough levels. Think about the amount of butane released into the air relative to wind conditions outside...I do this often and feel safe doing it and am aware if the necessary precautions.. I am aware of these solvents properties and how they behave..... are you? If so, you would not be so terrified of working with butane
 

Shawns

Active Member
I understand what your saying and but you have to take in that your not only putting yourself in danger but your neighbours that have no say in the matter, you even admit its possible for the neighbours to get some fumes well that right there should be enough, it'd be bad enough for someone to hurt themselves but when an nonparticipant get hurt its another story
Lets not add to the bad rep that making concentrates have and start on a safer path by giving safe information, if theres a chance don't take it
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
blast in the forest, reduce in the forest, final purge indoors. you have no idea how much this would help us all feel like were not helping you jump out of a plane. go the extra mile man and live to see your 100th purge. even 1 lucky no damage burn is to much. i was listening to idab radio and a pro extraction artist talked about blowing up in his static free room, because somebody didnt knock when they came in and caused static.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
i agree, blasting, and initial boil off are the most dangerous parts..

here is my on the road list of materials to safely do an extract mobile in forest:

insulated tube, coffee filters, clamps,
already ground material
funnel, packer/unpacker tool
frozen butane from freezer into ice chest
pyrex to retrieve oil
tarp/blacnket to do entire process on, stay clean!
gloves

optional to speed up :
fan (battery powered, or a/c adapter from car) blowing over pyrex (covered with a screen so contaminants dont go inside)
if done in sun, this will be extremely fast!
only use natural heat though when on the rd. may take just minutes more time, but safer..

keep it debris free!

you'll need to get rid of most the runny pool of butane before transportation..

keep that screen over your dish the entire time!

get home to do the fun stuff.

this is all just for spraying on the go..

ooo, iso and paper towels to clean up,

and!!!! something to cover the ridiculous dank smell in your car, (if driving)
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
I can't take all these blow up reports I'm coming across today, try the woods way I know it's lame but I don't like burning in general not in my crotch not in my face. I feel whatever you choose to do like me filling gas with a cigarette in my mouth, the fact I posted makes me responsible if your crotch blows up, I mean face. I'm starting to wonder if spraying at a buddies place aint that bad of an idea in the first place, your top balcony sounds fine though "in only your case" I'm not going to hell over that statement.
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
I like your idea of blasting a couple of tubes in the pucker brush on a windy day better.

Any gamble considers not only the odds, but the repercussions if you lose. While extracting on the balcony would be fine if everything goes right, there are serious implications for other people if it goes wrong.

The odds can also change unexpectedly, when you have other people involved, who can wake up and step out for a smoke, without announcing it to you first, and even if they did, what if you already have a pool of butane evaporating?

Moral issues aside, they are locking folks up locally for blowing up apartment buildings while extracting using butane, and the insurance companies are suing them.
 

Malevolence

New Member
You guys are right, I will most likely blast in the woods and evaporate and purge on the balcony. There should be no pools of butane because of being outdoors and having a decent fan.
 

GreyLord

Active Member
Mate you have no control over your neighbours - if one lights a ciggie, has outside water heater, other unknowns, ka-boom - bad idea.

Just take a 2nd bowl, larger than the 1st, with a thermos of hot water & your tube & butane, into the woods. Put hot water in bowl, place bowl with butane/oil into hot water & the liquid will evaporate to sludge in ten minutes, give or take depending on ambient temperature. Then you can finish in your apartment.
 

Kanivers

Active Member
Has anyone even asked how much? There's a big difference between 1 can and 3+. I would say an experienced person could do it. If this is your first I would say no. Once the butane starts dripping shit gets real! Evaporating is just as dangerous as the actual act of blowing. You could do the whole thing outside in the woods. You could let it evaporate in a mason jar, add ethanol and cap it. Evaporating alcohol isn't butane and would be better.
 
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