Possible to safely make BHO at an apartment?

Ah the fumes. In my spare room I do the natural evaping some times I'll do it in a warm water bath (use my sinks hot water) and that makes that spare room stink a little so I go the lengths to wear a painters respirator. I'm not really fond of the smell and I'm sure it causes brain damage. My gf thought I was cooking meth or something when she seen me put that on and looked at her dead serious and said "don't light anything"

blew up an entire apt. with a can of butane? blast on your patio dude. ever watch myth busters? once the gas mixes with air it has to be so many parts per million before its explosive. if yor outside youll be fine. make sure nothing is goint to turn on or ignite whiile your out there. use caution. its dangerous as stated. but outside air mixed with a can of butane is unlikley to blow your building up.

jason1976 said:

blew up an entire apt. with a can of butane? blast on your patio dude. ever watch myth busters? once the gas mixes with air it has to be so many parts per million before its explosive. if yor outside youll be fine. make sure nothing is goint to turn on or ignite whiile your out there. use caution. its dangerous as stated. but outside air mixed with a can of butane is unlikley to blow your building up.

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A butane explosion is caused by the superheated (~3500F) and rapidly expanding air, looking for an escape route and pushing everything in its path out of its way.

Outside, there most definitely is still an ignition danger, as butane loves itself and would really like to pool and cling together. The vapors will flow along the ground like water, if you don't dissipate it forcefully, and collect in low spots.

The lower ignition point for an n-Butane air fuel mixture is about 1.86% and the upper is 8.41%, so it takes more than parts per million, but it definitely falls within that concentration somewhere between the evaporating surface and the point that it exceeds that concentration, and a spark can cause a WHOOF 3500F flash, very close to where the person discharging the can is standing.

There is no explosion, because there is nothing containing the expanding air, but that may be of little comfort to those within the fireball range.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/explosive-concentration-limits-d_423.html

http://www.ohio.edu/mechanical/thermo/Applied/Chapt.7_11/Chapter11.html

A lot of this is common sense [you would think]. Just use your heads people.

A lot is common sense. But certain aspects may not come naturally, butane igniting from an "invisible" spark on your fan or that it is heavy and pools, flowing like water in and around crevasses to sit and wait for you to think its safe.... many people also don't realize the fumes are absorbed through your lungs eyes and even skin to get you "drunk" on iso or etoh

People shouldn't be working with these solvents if they don't understand them and the safety requirements..

Skunkybud said:

My gf thought I was cooking meth or something when she seen me put that on and looked at her dead serious and said "don't light anything"

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lmao! yea i have gotten that look a couple times, not because i wear a gas mask just because of the process itself

Why would you ever weigh the safety of you and entire apartment complex against a "possibly safe" BHO extraction.

Think of how many peoples' lives you could ruin if something even goes slightly wrong, or one of your neighbors has some sort of open flame/spark... ???

jason1976 said:

blew up an entire apt. with a can of butane? blast on your patio dude. ever watch myth busters? once the gas mixes with air it has to be so many parts per million before its explosive. if yor outside youll be fine. make sure nothing is goint to turn on or ignite whiile your out there. use caution. its dangerous as stated. but outside air mixed with a can of butane is unlikley to blow your building up.

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This is not true whatsoever due to the nature of Butane. Butane does NOT dissipate like, say, CO2 or N2. Instead, it pools and stays concentrated, attracted very much to itself. The notion that once butane hits air, it disperses, is 100% wrong.

Multiple fans and a large distance between yourself and others are absolutely required before you even think about haphazardly blasting.

He did say he worked in a place where he inhaled fumes all day with shitty ventilation. Anyone see a connection...anyone?

A lot of good shit to think about, however the last few posts aren't really specific to apartments as the butane pooling and all that can just as well happen at your house. When you think about it, not much different blasting on the deck in your backyard, or the deck on the back of your apartment, other than the proximity of your neighbors. Where I live, the neighbors and open flames are not an issue at 3 AM. Also I don't live on the ground floor, so the gas would get blown off the patio and into the wind, or just spill over the edge like a waterfall.

All that said, I have already decided not to blast on the balcony. Also, kanivers if you're going to take a jab, try to keep up with who said what, cuz I work in an office building.

Drive out to the desert in an RV, take off everything but underwear, boots and socks, start blasting, and start a business - FOR YOUR FAMILY.

Wow, one of the pioneers of shatter making took the time to comment on this thread salutations Jump!

mrcryce said:

Wow, one of the pioneers of shatter making took the time to comment on this thread salutations Jump!

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uhhh, where was that???

I just figured he was referring to me

haha I didnt think jump was an ISO guy. I know he loves his shatter though.

So who's jump? I don't think I've ever heard that name before...(no offense, oh shatter man)..... went back through....I see nothing

Jump117 I think it is, I believe he has quite the background in chemistry and stuff, hes an older guy on ICmag I believe that is VERY intelligent not only in real life, but is an oil (absolute amber to be exact) god.

I think... this is all running on memory. hes well known in the oil world though, def knows his stuff.

yup... turns out my memory isnt quite shot yet!!!

check out who else posted in his thread, he he he

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=168388

edit: that gunnaknow guy is also one smart mofo!!

I think you guys would appreciate posts 35-40 in that thread... I cant stop reading it, so much info!!!!! and post 57 is very interesting too. hmmm.

You know I have seen that thread..i think you put up a couple threads from icmag a few weeks back...does look like absolute goodness....hehe absolute puns