Possible to save these clones?

Herb & Suds said:

So you haven’t been misting them regularly
No dome
And you wonder why they still look the same ?
Just like moving plants from artificial light to sunlight
You have to harden them off when you remove them from the cloner

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I Have been misting them, and let the soil Dry out

They haven't perked up at all during doing so

coreywebster said:

Never had the issue but perhaps they are going from too big of a humidity difference.

Personally I don't use a cloner, just a seed cell tray and pure perlite with an inch of water, never need to mist them or use a dome.

So that could be a good intermediate step for you to try, just bang them in small pots with only perlite, sat in an inch of water.

Failing that you'll have to try potting up and straight into a dome.

Or just wait till there's way more root mass before removing them from the cloner.
More roots equal better success and leaving them in a cloner an extra week will give you a plant that's quicker to thriving so it's not lost time.. no rush is there, folk get too hung up on getting roots fast, no use if this is what's happening when you transplant.

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This is an interesting idea, so is the base of the cutting submerged in the inch of water or above it?

dwc420letsgo said:

I swear sometimes neglect tek works the best lol ‍

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Giving that a go rn lol

Relaxed said:

Here's the fix. I don;t transplant clones till I see several like 3 or 4 plus roots clearly outside clone not like above thats weeks down the road too long. Then I transplant to a 5 gallon final pot. you are stressing them repotting them too much. The key to this transition is to get plastic bags see thru and slight mist the inside bag and place over these clones. after a day take plastic bag off for 30 minutes usually dropping so mist and place bag over again. next day do it again till day 3-4 they wont drop and your are ready to go. I would not put clones in a tiny cup but some do. final pot never fails me water. Ive found pretty huge plastic bags that work perfectly over complete 5 gallon pots making this zero stress 100 percent success......One thing I didn;t mention is after day 3-4 of cutting a clone at start I only mist the box or bag and never the plant leaves again. keeps them happy an adusted. Now send me money for this lesson....lol

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Interesting, I don't think there's too long. But thers defo too soon...

I think the problem here is the roots wasn't big enough on some clones....

CrustyWires said:

There must be a better way, perhaps its letting the roots get even bigger?

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You may find it's a lack of aeration at the roots. Suffocates them once you transplant and water in. Droops them.
Put more perlite in your mix.
Could go 50%
They won't be in the cup very long anyway.

BongerChonger said:

You may find it's a lack of aeration at the roots. Suffocates them once you transplant and water in. Droops them.
Put more perlite in your mix.
Could go 50%
They won't be in the cup very long anyway.

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This the most likely reason atm

Put ‘em back in the cloner unless you are in a hurry

CrustyWires said:

This the most likely reason atm

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I only say because it happens to me if I'm not careful, up-potting from pucks to potting mix.
I've found larger pucks have helped too.
So getting some more roots, as you say, before transplanting will probably help too.

Herb & Suds said:

Put ‘em back in the cloner unless you are in a hurry

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I was thinking this. Gonna try it

BongerChonger said:

I only say because it happens to me if I'm not careful, up-potting from pucks to potting mix.
I've found larger pucks have helped too.
So getting some more roots, as you say, before transplanting will probably help too.

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Will be good to test the theory

dwc420letsgo said:

I literally haven’t paid a lot of attention to these clones but I like to have a big root system before transplanting. These have been like 3 weeks there in the tray. I assure u if u wait till the roots are like this you will be good.

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Going from plug to soil is a lot more forgiving than going from aerocloner to soil. I had the same issues as OP when I tried an aerocloner, so I switched to root plugs and my success rate increased tremendously.

CrustyWires said:

This is an interesting idea, so is the base of the cutting submerged in the inch of water or above it?

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If you picture a standard propagator , without the lid, the stem itself is just sat in wet perlite because perlite wicks the water up, so yeah it's kind of sat in water but there's also lots of air too.

This is how I've cloned for a long time, with 99% success rate, never get any wilting, never mist anything, no dome..
Takes longer but often my clones are sat there a month until I'm ready to pot them into coco. I've had some sat there , like in stasis, for two month before . When I need them they are a solid block of root ready to explode into growth phase once potted up.

Then all I do is pour water into the cell from the top and lift the clone out , it kind of floats out with no stress, leave the perlite on and straight into coco.


Another thing I should of mentioned with your situation, how intense is the light and air temp?
Because that could be a major factor since your root zone isn't established enough to take strong light or higher temps, or essentially anything that requires high level drinking and transpiration.

Sorry for the long winded reply.. just had my morning coffee

That's a good setup Corey, also my lighting is incredibly low, for the reasons u statee