Post your organic flowering feeding schedule

PadawanWarrior said:

I followed this Final Earth Juice Schedule my first time. Tasty nugs.

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I sometimes use EarthJuice Catalyst to help feed my soil microbes. I don't like in in the drip lines tho.

PadawanWarrior said:

I hope you realize I'm just joking around with ya. I've got a box now with 6 QB96's from Black Friday. Now I just have to find a place to put them.

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Yeah I figured.

PJ Diaz said:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I sometimes use EarthJuice Catalyst to help feed my soil microbes. I don't like in in the drip lines tho.

Yeah I figured.

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Ya, I still use it sometimes too. Good stuff.

Wattzzup said:

I did this to my last grow. I’m waiting to see how long it takes. I gave it some nutrients and EWC watered it and it is sitting in the tent.

Hoping it works

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As long as your microbes are active it'll work. The more microbes the faster it will happen though.

PJ Diaz said:

Top dressings in organic grows are great, but it's not a real solution to organic nutrition needs. If you want to grow organically, you can't treat it like a hydro grow; there is no feeding schedule for the plants, you need to think about feeding the soil. If you think that the time it takes to build a proper soil takes too long, then maybe organic gardening isn't for you. Personally I like a hybrid feed of salts and organic amendments for cannabis indoors. Pure organic is best for outdoor gardening IMO.

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So your saying using a little bit of GH bottled nutes is a good thing? That is what im experiencing personally....

This is the part I don't get, I read that salt based fertilizers kill microorganisms, how is it that combining GH nutes into the soil helps? How is it working?

i grow totally organic except i use tiger bloom in flower 20 ml per gallon plus all my organics so yeah i cheat and they love it

DoobieDoobs said:

This is the part I don't get, I read that salt based fertilizers kill microorganisms, how is it that combining GH nutes into the soil helps? How is it working?

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I think thats some bro science. You can run hydro with beneficial bacteria in the system.... if bottled nutes killed bacteria, they would likely kill roots too. I would be bacteria is harder to kill than roots.

JoeBlow5823 said:

So your saying using a little bit of GH bottled nutes is a good thing? That is what im experiencing personally....

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I prefer dry salts over bottles, but that aside IMO yes, unless you really have your organic situation dialed 100% I think a combo of salts and organics will produce the best results most often.

DoobieDoobs said:

This is the part I don't get, I read that salt based fertilizers kill microorganisms, how is it that combining GH nutes into the soil helps? How is it working?

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You might kill a few, but they will repopulate quickly and the dead ones will be eaten by the plants. You aren't going to kill off your microherde with a normal amount of chem ferts. Sure, if you are putting so much in that you are burning your plants, it's not a good thing.

PJ Diaz said:

I prefer dry salts over bottles, but that aside IMO yes, unless you really have your organic situation dialed 100% I think a combo of salts and organics will produce the best results most often.

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Yeah even google says it. If google says it, it must be true.

Salt will harm bacteria and plant roots if there is direct contact. Due to the large number of microbes in soil, and the small surface area of the fertilizer crystals, this has no significant effect on the microbe populations in soil.

Thats the thing. You really have to have a hell of a process dialed in to do 100% organic indoor. Cheating with a little of the bottled shit really simplifies the process.

It's not broscience, I read it in "teaming with microbes", but I guess once the number of microbes gets too high then it's not much of a problem. Still confuses* me a little.

DoobieDoobs said:

It's not broscience, I read it in "teaming with microbes", but I guess once the number of microbes gets too high then it's not much of a problem. Still confused me a little.

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While the authors of that book are accomplished gardeners, I don't believe that they are scientists. Don't forget that many gardening books are still filled with "bro-science". In terms of the assertions in that book, this is a good counter-point from this page: https://www.gardenmyths.com/teaming-with-microbes-close-look-part-one/

JoeBlow5823 said:

Cheating with a little of the bottled shit really simplifies the process.

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for those which are ideologically bound there's also organic bottled nutes (Biobizz eg) but after some time there's also some "salt" residue built up from the mineralic ions

so far what I got from this thread is that you guys still use bottles nutes

PJ Diaz said:

While the authors of that book are accomplished gardeners, I don't believe that they are scientists. Don't forget that many gardening books are still filled with "bro-science". In terms of the assertions in that book, this is a good counter-point from this page: https://www.gardenmyths.com/teaming-with-microbes-close-look-part-one/

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Did you just read the big bold title? The two paragraphs under it work to disprove that theory.... Basically says as long as your not using a massive dose, it wont hurt them.

Kassiopeija said:

for those which are ideologically bound there's also organic bottled nutes (Biobizz eg) but after some time there's also some "salt" residue built up from the mineralic ions

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Thats some expensive shit. Maybe when my GH stuff starts running out I might look into it.

Cabbagelit said:

so far what I got from this thread is that you guys still use bottles nutes

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Some guys have cracked the code but man making tea every watering and getting it just right sounds like a real pain in the ass. Im typically giving my girls a 25% strength solution so definitely not hitting the bottle hard.

PJ Diaz said:

While the authors of that book are accomplished gardeners, I don't believe that they are scientists. Don't forget that many gardening books are still filled with "bro-science". In terms of the assertions in that book, this is a good counter-point from this page: https://www.gardenmyths.com/teaming-with-microbes-close-look-part-one/

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Interesting post man, it's good to know bottled nutrients doesn't actually kill the microorganisms in the soil. I'm still not going to use them because I'm going full organic, plus I don't want to buy any more bottled nutrients. But this new information is very appreciated, thank you.

DoobieDoobs said:

Interesting post man, it's good to know bottled nutrients doesn't actually kill the microorganisms in the soil. I'm still not going to use them because I'm going full organic, plus I don't want to buy any more bottled nutrients. But this new information is very appreciated, thank you.

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Like the other guy said, check out Biobizz. Its a little pricey but if it works and saves you from the hassle of teas and shit, its worth it; especially if it works better.

Flower Top Dress

Week One: Neem or alfalfa + kelp. 1 teaspoon each/5 gallons of pot size

Week Two: Crab Shell + kelp. 1 teaspoon each/5 gallons of soil

Week Four: Crab shell + kelp. 1 teaspoon each/5 gallons of soil

Week 5: about 2 cups of compost or EWC or rotting wood chunks

Week 6: Alfalfa (1 teaspoons/5 gallons) crab shell (1/2 teaspoon/ 5 gallons)+ langbeinite ( like 1/4 teaspoon per 5 gallons on soil

Week 8: Alfalfa (1 teaspoon/5 gallons) + langbeinite (1/4 teaspoon/5 gallons)


High Brix Feeding

Week 1: alfalfa / kelp tea. 2 teaspoons each soaked in 5 gallons of water for 24 hours.

Week 2: fish hydrolysate. 2 teaspoons for 5gallons water.

Week 3: TM-7. 1/2 teaspoon / 5gallons water

Start this rotation in veg and keep it rolling all through flower.

I also use silica about once per week, on opposite waterings from the High Brix feedings. Sometime I don't want to pour liquid stuff on my youngest/smallest vegging plants so I foliar spray the high Brix stuff in early veg.