a mongo frog
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Would love to see that grow go down!!!!
pot size and yield question?
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growingforfun
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Exactly... and dude is in coco, no way he's even close to the limits of his containers.
But he doesn't want to spend more money so corners needs cutting.
if you have enough light and time, you could get a pound from a single indoor plant.(scrog helps) but if the pot is too small, it wont happen. hell, one plant COULD fill a 10X10 grow room with scrog.
not that im saying it is efficient. growing a half dozen smaller scrogs under the same light would finish in less 1/6th the time. it would also produce just as much weight.
with cannabis, your weight depends on light. your plant size depends on reservoir size. your potency depends on skill and knowledge.
this is not always 100% true. but it is a good rule of thumb.
or perhaps i'm wrong?
not that im saying it is efficient. growing a half dozen smaller scrogs under the same light would finish in less 1/6th the time. it would also produce just as much weight.
with cannabis, your weight depends on light. your plant size depends on reservoir size. your potency depends on skill and knowledge.
this is not always 100% true. but it is a good rule of thumb.
or perhaps i'm wrong?
Kronickeeper
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Like I said all those are dialed in but you don't want to hear that part, light isn't the problem, nutrients isn't the problem, technique isn't the problem, yes I could get a bigger producing strain as I stated ive ran bigger yielding strains and hit the 6 oz per plant mark but I want to get to that point with a medium yielding strain I'm currently running and my root as completely fills the pot and is damn near root bound when I harvest so it's definitely room to for a bigger container
Kronickeeper
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For the ones who say pot size don't matter that's just ignorant in that case every one would grow in solo cups or 1 gallon pots. The size of your root mass absolutely factors in. Obviously you need to have lights, nutrients and what no one else has mentioned "environment" dialed in which I do which is why I'm talking about pot size I've used 5 gallons for years wanted advice on rather I should jump to 7 or 10 gallon but apparent I should just use solo cups to get the same yield
Tupapa
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Do a 10 gallons run and see how it goes
Tupapa
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Of course u will get more zips with bigger pots but u have to consider that u gonna have to spend more time in veg., And sometimes is counterproductive., I have grown 1pound plant but i spended 70 days in veg in SCROG as a experiment., It was nice getting that weight but when i did the math of time spended plus dry weight plus space used plus lights expenses it really wasn't productive., Over smaller plants plus amount of time in veg plus space plus const of runnig space plus quantity an volume of plants., I don't know if im explain it good enough excuse me im cooked right now but yeah thats the basic idea.,
bullSnot
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I disagree...Not everyone with a big Dick is a pussy
growingforfun
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Naw I heard it, an I said go for bigger pots if ya want. But you still to think your maxed out and limited by your container size, I'm saying your not.
I said try bigger containers and you may yield more, HOWEVER, you should be able to pull more weight out of that size container in those nutes. I've been at this 7 years, I've seen first hand what differant size pots can do. You may believe your light is not the limiting factor, that's up to you.
in coco u don't need big pots, once roots fill pot start multi feeding.....some guys feed 8-10x a day......it's hydro not soil.....
growingforfun
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I don't think anyone here said pot size doesn't matter, you listed your grow factors, we responded.
You said your environment and grow style was dialed in and you ran your preferred strain, that leaves only light and container size. I've done so many grows I know how I get more weight, it starts with the light.
It isn't just a simple "bigger root container makes more bud". If that was the case everyone would grow in 100 gallon containers and use random low watt bulbs.
Light really is a big factor here. I've pulled much larger averages in soil, and way bigger numbers in hydro, even in 3 gallon hydro. So maybe listen if you ask advise even if it's not what your expecting or wanting to hear, so long as we really are trying to help.
Kronickeeper
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I've been considering that, but I hand water would you recommend a drip system for something like that?
Kronickeeper
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Im not saying adding more light won't increase yields Im saying with the two lights I have in there in a 4x4 space I dont think I've maxed out the yield I can get out of my current lights and set up if that makes sense. There was a grow posted on here with the same light where a guy got two pounds in a 4x4 with my same light so I know the light isn't the issue, plus i have a second 120 watt mono light in there as well for added spectrum and extra heat during the winter so there are plenty of lumens. I have pulled up to 7 ounces per plant with this light but it was with bigger yielding strains, like blue dream and strawberry ice. Im listening to every ones input trust me thats why I said I would run 2 in 7 gallons and 2 in 5 gallons and see if it makes a difference if its makes no difference than you guys are right and I need to add more light.
let me tell u, i set up a drip system couple months back.....it's stupid simple n what a dream for me as i work long hrs. when i work. think it cost me under $100....i ran cpvc from res. into room then goodyear garden hose in a loop field and drilled 3/16" holes in hose to push 1/4" line into hose.....no leaks in 3 months or so. i have 2 pumps, 1 for drip lines n 1 to agitate the res for 15 minutes couple times a day.
Kronickeeper
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That makes sense, I didn't plan on increasing veg time, I usually veg for 1 month with a clone and 2 months if I'm growing from seed. So thats something to consider i guess
Kronickeeper
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I did some research and it said you want 2 gallons for every 12 inches of plant height my plants usually 3-4 ft tall so using that method a 5 gallon has been to small which is what I was thinking opinions?
growingforfun
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Those guidelines you'll find online are total junk generally. They are meant to give beginners an idea of something to expect or plan for if they have never so much as put a seed in the ground imo... sometimes people the the idea that if it's published on a website it has scientific value, that's not the case. ive seen amazing plants in 3 gallon containers that were taller than me. And yielded more than youll read a 3 gallon can produce, when reading those random guides online.
HarveyHarvester
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I did not read the entire thread but the title made me think of a recent revelation...
It is probably coincidental but first grow was in a 7 gallon container and yielded ~7oz. of top shelf bud (not including popcorn stuff).
Next grow, same everything except used a 10 gallon container and got ~10oz. of top shelf bud (not including popcorn stuff).
I know the 7 gallon = 7oz and 10 gallon = 10oz. is purely coincidental but it does prove that more roots (larger container) = more bud.
Done in a space somewhere between 3 and 4 sq. ft. (see sig)
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