Most definitely a (N) deficiency. Fox farm is strong already by itself
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FreshOffTheCut
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Great, try fixing a problem that isn't even there 
I just watered them yesterday so ill probably just feed them tomorrow even though the soil won't be soaked up just to feed them some nutes and get back to my normal schedule of when I give them water.
I just watered them yesterday so ill probably just feed them tomorrow even though the soil won't be soaked up just to feed them some nutes and get back to my normal schedule of when I give them water.
SnoopyDoo
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I wouldn't sweat the nutes too much, it's soil with nutes in it already. I'd let the soil dry out. I would probably hit them with a foliar spray to correct any deficiencies. Take a look at pic #4. It looks like you may have spider mite damage down by the petiole. Small yellow spots on the leaf.Great, try fixing a problem that isn't even there
FreshOffTheCut
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I did a check last night on top and under all the leaves and didn't see any of them.
FreshOffTheCut
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I was actually wondering if I could do that cuz the soil definitely packed its self down with these last few watering. For sure though.
myke
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It will add food,its called top dressing.
You can clearly see in the 3rd pic the leaves are curling "clawing", they're dark as hell and yellowing. All signs of nitrogen toxicity
myke
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Looking at the last pic,where u see the whole plant.I dont see any clawing on the big leaves?
getogrow
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DO NOT CUT OFF THE N THIS EARLY. its clearly NOT a nitrogen toxicity. "Happy frog is pure N" that is a way under educated statement. He knows nothing about soil in general.
Your going to use very little grow big until you put her into flower. N is the number one element it needs right now. Do not even check runoff , thats a waste. She looks good , keep on doing whatever you do. grow big for veg , tiger bloom for bloom. big bloom can be used anytime. (Both GB and TB are not organic at all. big bloom is)
Your going to use very little grow big until you put her into flower. N is the number one element it needs right now. Do not even check runoff , thats a waste. She looks good , keep on doing whatever you do. grow big for veg , tiger bloom for bloom. big bloom can be used anytime. (Both GB and TB are not organic at all. big bloom is)
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Just because i don't use happy frog means im uneducated about happy frog gooftroop lmaoooo. To each there own
getogrow
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No, you never said anything of the sort. you said , and i quote "HF is pure N"
That statement shows you do not know how soil works. its no big deal at all.
SnoopyDoo
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In my experience, he'll be fine with little to no nutes in Happy Frog for a bit. Maybe a foliar spray. May have some iron deficiency, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. I don't see N-Toxicity or deficiency. Soil and plants in general can do what we're seeing here - where he seems to have different leaves showing different symptoms, but the plant as whole isn't showing those symptoms. The plant looks a little dark, but if those plants are under bluish veg lights, that's probably why they look dark green in some of the photos Keep in mind these came from a club - they were probably rootbound initially. We may be seeing signs of transplant shock. If the plants were in an inert medium (ie Coco), they may be experiencing a little shock from the new media. Then the OP hammered them twice with water.
Overall the plants look good. IMHO a good foliar spray will fix the deficiencies. Ionics Nitrozime is a good foliar or use whatever your local hydro shop recommends.
OP - you can use non-organic nutes in soil, that's what happens when you fertilize your lawn. Farmers do it all the time. Just be careful not to overfertilize.
OP - you need to slow down a bit. I get it you're excited to grow some plants, but marijuana has been around longer than we have and grew just fine with no human intervention, ppm meters, fancy fertilizers, etc. Yeah, you see some of these grows where it looks like a science experiment, but those are experienced growers trying to maximize yield and quality. Think of your plant more like a house plant, it just needs water, light and some fertilizer to grow. That approach isn't going to grow top shelf buds and high yields, but you won't kill your plant by doing too much. Sometimes less is more. Go easy on fertilizers - maybe one every 3-5 waterings. If the plant starts to yellow, then hit it with a foliar and up your fertilizer.
Overall the plants look good. IMHO a good foliar spray will fix the deficiencies. Ionics Nitrozime is a good foliar or use whatever your local hydro shop recommends.
OP - you can use non-organic nutes in soil, that's what happens when you fertilize your lawn. Farmers do it all the time. Just be careful not to overfertilize.
OP - you need to slow down a bit. I get it you're excited to grow some plants, but marijuana has been around longer than we have and grew just fine with no human intervention, ppm meters, fancy fertilizers, etc. Yeah, you see some of these grows where it looks like a science experiment, but those are experienced growers trying to maximize yield and quality. Think of your plant more like a house plant, it just needs water, light and some fertilizer to grow. That approach isn't going to grow top shelf buds and high yields, but you won't kill your plant by doing too much. Sometimes less is more. Go easy on fertilizers - maybe one every 3-5 waterings. If the plant starts to yellow, then hit it with a foliar and up your fertilizer.
I said "basically" which means that's basically what it consist of, but not all of it. Pure means all of it though
You seem like you know what your preaching. I can dig it
FreshOffTheCut
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I appreciate all that feedback, super helpful. I am excited/nervous just cuz it seems like there's so much that can go wrong. As of now they're doing fine. Growing like a mfing bush honestly lol. But I believe I watered 2 or 3 days ago now so ill be giving them nutes the next round and see how they take. I've got a 2.3x2.3x66" tent on the way so ill have a lot more height than now. When I was looking at how much room I had left for the rest of flowering and vegging im not gunna be able to go much more so this should help. Thanks yall for your input.
Hell yea man. Im gonna comment back on this post in a couple months for some update pics from you . Stay lifted brotha, peace and loveI appreciate all that feedback, super helpful. I am excited/nervous just cuz it seems like there's so much that can go wrong. As of now they're doing fine. Growing like a mfing bush honestly lol. But I believe I watered 2 or 3 days ago now so ill be giving them nutes the next round and see how they take. I've got a 2.3x2.3x66" tent on the way so ill have a lot more height than now. When I was looking at how much room I had left for the rest of flowering and vegging im not gunna be able to go much more so this should help. Thanks yall for your input.
FreshOffTheCut
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For sure! Will do
SnoopyDoo
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New growers almost always overwater and overfertilize. They never prune enough. It's hard to hack away at a plant that you want to grow - seems counter intuitive. Good luck and happy trails.I appreciate all that feedback, super helpful. I am excited/nervous just cuz it seems like there's so much that can go wrong. As of now they're doing fine. Growing like a mfing bush honestly lol. But I believe I watered 2 or 3 days ago now so ill be giving them nutes the next round and see how they take. I've got a 2.3x2.3x66" tent on the way so ill have a lot more height than now. When I was looking at how much room I had left for the rest of flowering and vegging im not gunna be able to go much more so this should help. Thanks yall for your input.