Pre flower confusion...pollen released?

aeviaanah

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During veg some of my plants were already showing pre flowers...two hairs coming out of a node. (correct?) Ive come to understand that an 8 week flower time starts when plants show preflowers and not when lights go 12/12. I went 12/12 last monday how do i figure where i am at as far as flowering time?

I believe i have one male plant i believe i am seeing balls. Nodes appear different when compared to known cloned females. If i started 12/12 monday how much estimated time do i have before pollen is released?
 

J.cun.Shallow

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Ive come to understand that an 8 week flower time starts when plants show preflowers and not when lights go 12/12.

I,m pretty sure that the 8 week flower time starts when you 12/12, or do you know something I don't?
 

brasmith

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You start counting flower weeks from the time you see the preflower hairs, that is week 1 of flower.
 

jowisema

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actually, the two things you are talking about at the nodes are not preflowers... you will notice these vestigial parts of the plant at all the nodes... the preflowers form next to those in the joints where the stems of ur fan leaves branch from the main stem... be patient
 

aeviaanah

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ok ill keep my eye out...lots of people around here are saying its the hairs that are the preflowers..after looking at some pictures i think we are talking about the calyx?
 

cloned

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ok ill keep my eye out...lots of people around here are saying its the hairs that are the preflowers..after looking at some pictures i think we are talking about the calyx?
i would have to say flowering time starts when lights are 12/12. i had clippings from mothers that had preflowers and these clippings were a week old, and they had preflowers. i left them in veg for another 6 weeks and no flowers formed till i went 12/12.
 

aeviaanah

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in order to start the plants flowering phase certain changes are made inside the plant. just because you change the light doesnt mean the plant is flowering. it takes time for the plant to realize it is time to flower. when that change is made this is the beginning of flowering.

basically what you are saying is....

if i go 12/12 monday plant is flowering....then go 24/0 tuesday plant is vegging...then i go 12/12 wed plant is flowering again....then 24/0 thurs plant is vegging again....doesnt make any sense. these changes take time and do not happen over night.
 

cloned

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in order to start the plants flowering phase certain changes are made inside the plant. just because you change the light doesnt mean the plant is flowering. it takes time for the plant to realize it is time to flower. when that change is made this is the beginning of flowering.

basically what you are saying is....

if i go 12/12 monday plant is flowering....then go 24/0 tuesday plant is vegging...then i go 12/12 wed plant is flowering again....then 24/0 thurs plant is vegging again....doesnt make any sense. these changes take time and do not happen over night.
if your talking to me. no i am not saying anything about going back and forth between time scheduals. you are right to say it takes time b4 the plant relizes the time change. i've been told you actually have about a week in 12/12 that you can take clippings from your girls.
 

stoner1984

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Need pics to say if its male or not, a cylax can be confused for balls to the untrained eye.

Personally i consider the '8 week rule' as a guide and not an exact time from beginning of flowering to end because so many variables will affect flowering time, too cold and itl take longer.... etc.

Your plants will show you when they are ready.
 

aeviaanah

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the bagseed turned out to be a male. he has been separated and i plan on using him to breed a branch of each of my strains.
 

blaze1camp

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you can take clones for flowering plant at almost any time up to harvest...but around 21 days into flower i guess is the best time...
Monster Cropping or Flowering Clones is another method of growing that was brought to my attention by one of our members; JWP, who also was kind enough to provide the pictures for this part of the guide. This method involves taking clones of flowering plants and then forcing them to root and re-veg, which eventually leads to very bushy plants with a great number of branches and nodes. I named this technique Monster Cropping because that is what you will get, real monster plants, but also because this method was introduced to the scene by a grower named greenmonster714. He in turn credits a grower named Feral for discovering this technique.

Taking clones from flowering plants goes against all that has been said about cloning cannabis and might therefore seem a bit confusing at first but the science behind the technique is sound and the results speak for themselves.​

You start by taking clones of a plant that is about 21 days into flowering. This seems to be the best time to do it but you can also takes clones at a later stage with the same results. The lower branches make better clones as they have not yet become rigid and will also root faster and more easily than say the top cola. Move the new cutting into a glass of water and let it sit for a while in order to make sure that no air gets into the vascular system during handling, as this can be fatal to your new plant. You should make the cut so that it runs along the stem as this will increase the surface area for water and possibly nutrient uptake, depending on what method of cloning you use. Personally, I have found that using a small hydroponic setup or a propagation bubbler is by far the best way to clone cannabis plants. I will not expand on the subject of cloning here, if you need more information on how to clone your plants, have a look at the clone thread by JJScorpio

In the picture below, you can see how the clone from a flowering plant been has placed in a propagation bubbler for rooting and re-vegging. This also means that you will have to put the clone back under a veg light schedule of 18/6, 20/4 or even 24/0. Clones do not need strong light so a small CFL will do. You can remove some of the buds at this stage in order to encourage the plant to revert back into its vegetative cycle but leave the topmost flower alone.
 
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