Prepetual Ebb & Flow

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

ok guys so i decided to take out the ebb system for the moms i just dont have the room and the 1 gal pots where root bound BAD they stopped growing SOOOO what i did was made some 5 gal hempy buckets using 100% perlit very cheap to make and should work good and i only have to water 1 or 2 weekly this will help me with no water changes for them so i can concentrate on the flowering room.

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

here are the clones after 5 days 3 have rooted nicely the rest should shortly follow i can see the little root nubs forming already.

Mongobud · Jan 30, 2011

Oh yea, ill be following this thread as well brotha. I put my mothers In 5 gallon buckets and added remote rezes so I don't have to screw with em all week sometimes even 2...your plants are beautiful man. Great fucking job!

bassman999 · Jan 30, 2011

cant believe perlite alone works that well! Is that a drain on the bottom of buckets?

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

yup 1/4" pluming fittings with silicone on the threads, screens on one side so the perlit doesnt come out when watering found it all at home depot and i am using my 25 gal res from my ebb system with all my nutes pre mixed in there with 2 sub pumps one hooked to a timer that kicks on every 3 hours to keep the sauce constantly mixed and aerated and the other pump hooked to a hose when i kick it on i feed the plants and turn it off very simple and very useful.

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

Mongobud said:
Oh yea, ill be following this thread as well brotha. I put my mothers In 5 gallon buckets and added remote rezes so I don't have to screw with em all week sometimes even 2...your plants are beautiful man. Great fucking job!

thanks allot man the remote res's are a good idea as well.

bassman999 · Jan 30, 2011

drgreentm said:
yup 1/4" pluming fittings with silicone on the threads, screens on one side so the perlit doesnt come out when watering found it all at home depot and i am using my 25 gal res from my ebb system with all my nutes pre mixed in there with 2 sub pumps one hooked to a timer that kicks on every 3 hours to keep the sauce constantly mixed and aerated and the other pump hooked to a hose when i kick it on i feed the plants and turn it off very simple and very useful.

so basically it is always hooked up, but just floods and drains periodically?

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

na i hand water them with the hose on the top of the res i only have to water once a week so the other pump keeps the water nice and mixed so it doesnt get stagnant. the other pump(when turned on) pumps water through the hose like a garden hose and i just water them its allot like watering a soil plant.

shnkrmn · Jan 30, 2011

You will have to keep after those hempy mothers unless you are taken a lot of clones all the time. They will tree up on ya.

RollaP · Jan 30, 2011

I agree. You may end up cutting the mothers back and composting the excess to manage there size. It looks like that you have the capacity to pull many clones a day if you want, so not really a "problem". lol. I have a question about my Botanicare 45 site cloner. I keep getting slime build and wilty yellowing clones. I clean it thoroughly every time this happens. I keep the ph between 5.8 and 6.2 with a water temp at 72-77F. The ambient air get down to 58 at night on the lowest end and only up to 80 during the day. The clones are 4" from a 8 T5 lamps. I can post pics if necessary. Please help

shnkrmn · Jan 30, 2011

sometimes you have to replace the disks they just get too funky to sterilize. I've never gotten goo in mine, so I don't know what else it could be. your water temp is a leeetle high.

end of thread jack.

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

shnkrmn said:
You will have to keep after those hempy mothers unless you are taken a lot of clones all the time. They will tree up on ya.

haha ya i will be putting them to the test i will be needing about 32 clones a week in march or april im getting 2 more trays and 2 more lights for a total of 2000w in there on two week harvests i think i may need a couple more to support those kinds of cuttings and getting a 400w for them to veg under as well

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

shnkrmn said:
sometimes you have to replace the disks they just get too funky to sterilize. I've never gotten goo in mine, so I don't know what else it could be. your water temp is a leeetle high.

end of thread jack.

i have got to agree 100% if you clean the res but not the stones the algae could still be lurking on them then when you put back in with good fresh water it just has a nice fresh home to move into. you gotta remember algae is alive and wont go away unless you kill it.

dwiajwalb · Jan 30, 2011

get some food grade Hydrogen peroxide , same as buyin florashield, WORKS GREAT to keep algae way.

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

dwiajwalb said:
get some food grade Hydrogen peroxide , same as buyin florashield, WORKS GREAT to keep algae way.

thats what i did it actually keeps res's, stones everything pretty clean in between changes just add back every 3 or 4 days and your good as gold.

tomahawk2406 · Jan 30, 2011

good shit man

drgreentm · Jan 30, 2011

tomahawk2406 said:
good shit man

thanks man much appreciated.

bassman999 · Jan 30, 2011

drgreentm said:
na i hand water them with the hose on the top of the res i only have to water once a week so the other pump keeps the water nice and mixed so it doesnt get stagnant. the other pump(when turned on) pumps water through the hose like a garden hose and i just water them its allot like watering a soil plant.

I feel dumb asking so many questions. So the valve on the buckets is just to drain it every now and then, or to flush it?

drgreentm · Jan 31, 2011

bassman999 said:
I feel dumb asking so many questions. So the valve on the buckets is just to drain it every now and then, or to flush it?

no worries man the two valves at the bottom are drains allot like a soil pot what you do when making one of these is measure up from the bottom of the bucket 2" and drill the holes so basically when you hand water the bottom 2" of the bucket always has water anything over the mark comes out the holes and brings the level back down. it simulates the outdoors if you dig in the ground and go deep enough you will find water same general concept.

RollaP · Jan 31, 2011

Thanks a lot guys. I took some pics this morning, but I guess I'll have to create a place for them on the net so I can link them here. I'll be getting some h2o2 tomorrow. hopefully this will save my babies from the trauma of slime.

What temp is best for water in cloner?

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