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Prisoners of the marijauna War

HomeLessBeans

New Member
US v Duval: Monroe farmer and son wrongfully prosecuted by DEA

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I wanted to share this video with everyone. This video talks about the US Vs Duval case. This case is about Jeremy and Jerry Lee Duval. These two men were growing medical marijuana in the state of Michigan and was in complete compliance with Michigan's marijuana laws. Everything was completely legal and was even confirmed by the Monroe county Sheriff's department. Even though the Sheriff's department was okaying the Duval's to grow marijuana, they were also part of a DEA program called, "Operation HEMP." This program is funded by the DEA and is used to catch any marijuana growers; legal or illegal in the state. Both Jerry Lee and Jeremy Duval both pleaded "Not Guilty" and went to trial head-to-head with the Federal government. On April 20th, 2012, Jeremy was sentenced to 5 years in prison and Jerry Lee was sentenced 10 years in prison. They are one of the few caregivers that did not take a plea bargain, which mean they can appeal their case to a higher court. If this case makes it to the Supreme Court, they can potentially end the prohibition on marijuana federally. The goal of The Prisoners of the Marijuana War is to publicize this case as much as possible, so they will be able to win their appeal. Also, if we raise enough money, we will also be able to travel the country and record other caregiver's stories about how the DEA wrongfully prosecuted them for following their state's laws. Please help us by spreading the word of this case and spreading this youtube video around. Listed below is a link to our fundraising page so we will be able to travel the country and make this documentary. Thank you all for your time and together, we could make a huge difference.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pr...-war/x/3468842

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_iVtieeow

-Prisoners of the Marijuana War

pasted from another site.

anyone know the where? what? n well I guess we know the why
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
The founding member and original of this kind .. I support them as they are real heroes in my humble opinion and most people would have plea bargained like a wrestler tapping out .

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woodsmantoker

Well-Known Member
of course this is a tragedy.I fully support these people in their fight and will continue to learn more about their case so that I may be of help. What help I can offer you all however is my opinion about how things went wrong in this case specifically from information detailed in this video. I see one significant problem that led to the arrest of both of these men. These two men despite all other circumstances had over 100 plants on one property. Video stated they erected 2 greenhouses with 72 plants in each. I cannot give legal advice and my words are not to be construed as such. I do suggest however to all patients in our country acting under state medical marijuana laws; heed the advice of the golden green rule, never for any reason exceed the 99 plant federal interest limit. In their case I suspect the interest was in the farm, assets,and monetary value presented but such beautiful built greenhouses. If your needs exceed the plant count number of which you are allotted under state law, rather than increase plant numbers in order to increase production, increase surface space of which a plant can encompass and learn to use the method of scrog.1 plant can produce much more then you may think. If you have questions about how to do this I am here for you.
 

woodsmantoker

Well-Known Member
good luck to these men and their family our thoughts are with you. Keep up the good fight, we will be behind you.
 

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
The use of the federal Controlled Substances Act by the federal government/agencies is a perfect example of modern day lawfare IMO.

I ask you to consider the absurdity of Marijuana remaining a Class I narcotic and federally prosecuted as such regardless of the fact that nearly half the states in the union currently and clearly provide for marijuana's "accepted medical use in treatment" throughout those states.

Schedule I substances are those that have the following findings:
The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

How many more political prisoners will this lawfare take before these "legal" threats and assaults by the federal government are met with civil warfare?

I'll see you on the battlefield my friends :bigjoint:
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
The use of the federal Controlled Substances Act by the federal government/agencies is a perfect example of modern day lawfare IMO.

I ask you to consider the absurdity of Marijuana remaining a Class I narcotic and federally prosecuted as such regardless of the fact that nearly half the states in the union currently and clearly provide for marijuana's "accepted medical use in treatment" throughout those states.

Schedule I substances are those that have the following findings:
The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

How many more political prisoners will this lawfare take before these "legal" threats and assaults by the federal government are met with civil warfare?

I'll see you on the battlefield my friends :bigjoint:


One word: MONEY

The feds acknowledging that marijuana is harmless and has medical value would mean a 50% reduction in the prison population (a lot of those being private, for-profit businesses), a huge chunk of revenue taken away from the pharmaceutical industry, the textile industry, etc etc etc.

I expect nothing less from these "leaders" of ours in Washington...
 

tomcatjones

Active Member
if you are smart.. get armed... http://ths-mi.org/ stay updated... JOINT THE FIGHT.

THE HUMAN SOLUTION was there with the CannaBus to protest at the Federal Courthouse in Detroit the other week with ASA.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152348685849897 video from the protest!!!!!!!! on da news.
we have other fish being fried a well?

are you guys familiar with the Steve Green story? http://www.mmmrmag.com/Article_3.html the founder of MedHead?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqU2v-FzAjE testimony from himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Pr1sQILUg ...before cannabis :(

testimony in front of house judiciary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eLpq7DQVP4 WITH OVATION!

testimony in front of the new conditions panel... before it was disbanded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcnD0tp_t8Q



I WATCHED A JUDGE TELL THIS MAN, "NO MARIJUANA" with a smile on his face.. after steve has pissed dirty for his bond drug testing for the last six months. without cannabis, he will die. he needs our help.

in oakland county there is no medical marihuana, no section 8. all patients and cgs have something invested in this case.
 

CashCrops

Well-Known Member
Our government is the largest and most successful drug dealers on the planet, they will not tolerate competition.
 

ThatGuy113

Well-Known Member
Our government is the largest and most successful drug dealers on the planet, they will not tolerate competition.
(This isnt directed at specifically you but just this idea that a lot of people have put in their minds)

Or it could be the hesitation to end the drug war or even reconsider Marijuana on the federal level is built on the fact that still almost half of the country is against legalization. With voter turnouts as low as they are what benefits does a politician in a rural conservative area gain from switching his mind on Marijuana? Not a whole lot but the list of negatives for that individual are endless, starting with losing his job because our mid term election voter turnout rates are what? 10-20% if your lucky? and I know a lot of people who complain about how marijuana has been treated by the government while never actually going to vote for pot friendly politicians or just participate in politics at all. If people want this to happen they HAVE to get involved. This isnt some huge masonic conspiracy. Prohibition on Marijuana stemmed from racism and was instilled in our country as the country was making the large transition from late 1800s living to becoming an economic powerhouse during the World Wars. Then the laws were raised even higher during the 60's and 70's. Take a look at Nixon, he was more afraid of drugs making people think outside of the box and becoming non conformist (The damn liberals were trying to take over dont you know), he wasn't worried about pharmaceutical profits. Then in the 80s you had the "Just say no" campaign from Nancy Reagan getting DARE into schools as well as tougher federal penalties in the early 90s in places like California (3 Strikes law).

On the flip side you had a DEA that grew expansively created endless amounts of jobs for individuals. The Machine gets bigger and its harder to stop. That combined with the unwillingness of representatives to stand out and gather support because they know it will be hard to do if not impossible (Because those other politicians who need to support it are just as scared of losing their base political support) is why we are where we are.

I just wanted to check back into reality because often its lost in the fear and anger a lot of us feel day to day watching our cannabis community.
Im sure there are a ton of legislators out there that would allow mmj or even legalization but they have to do other duties as well and that means they have to figure out how they can represent their constituents most efficiently. They cant sacrifice everything else they need to accomplish for one task. Yes there are lobbyist for pharm companies that work against marijuana but they are not this exuberant force that is holding the whole system up. The political climate will keep evolving and things will change but democracy (Direct or indirect) is a slow process because it is a game of compromise. You cant win em all. You just keep trying till you do.


Sorry, my morning smoke hit me pretty hard today.
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
(This isnt directed at specifically you but just this idea that a lot of people have put in their minds)

Or it could be the hesitation to end the drug war or even reconsider Marijuana on the federal level is built on the fact that still almost half of the country is against legalization. With voter turnouts as low as they are what benefits does a politician in a rural conservative area gain from switching his mind on Marijuana? Not a whole lot but the list of negatives for that individual are endless, starting with losing his job because our mid term election voter turnout rates are what? 10-20% if your lucky? and I know a lot of people who complain about how marijuana has been treated by the government while never actually going to vote for pot friendly politicians or just participate in politics at all. If people want this to happen they HAVE to get involved. This isnt some huge masonic conspiracy. Prohibition on Marijuana stemmed from racism and was instilled in our country as the country was making the large transition from late 1800s living to becoming an economic powerhouse during the World Wars. Then the laws were raised even higher during the 60's and 70's. Take a look at Nixon, he was more afraid of drugs making people think outside of the box and becoming non conformist (The damn liberals were trying to take over dont you know), he wasn't worried about pharmaceutical profits. Then in the 80s you had the "Just say no" campaign from Nancy Reagan getting DARE into schools as well as tougher federal penalties in the early 90s in places like California (3 Strikes law).

On the flip side you had a DEA that grew expansively created endless amounts of jobs for individuals. The Machine gets bigger and its harder to stop. That combined with the unwillingness of representatives to stand out and gather support because they know it will be hard to do if not impossible (Because those other politicians who need to support it are just as scared of losing their base political support) is why we are where we are.

I just wanted to check back into reality because often its lost in the fear and anger a lot of us feel day to day watching our cannabis community.
Im sure there are a ton of legislators out there that would allow mmj or even legalization but they have to do other duties as well and that means they have to figure out how they can represent their constituents most efficiently. They cant sacrifice everything else they need to accomplish for one task. Yes there are lobbyist for pharm companies that work against marijuana but they are not this exuberant force that is holding the whole system up. The political climate will keep evolving and things will change but democracy (Direct or indirect) is a slow process because it is a game of compromise. You cant win em all. You just keep trying till you do.


Sorry, my morning smoke hit me pretty hard today.

I think racism played a role, but money played a bigger role imo. William Randolph Hearst was the biggest newspaper distributor in America back in the 1930's, and hemp posed a real threat to his newspaper and paper mill monopoly that he had. He pushed hard for prohibition for this reason, and had Henry Anslinger in his back pocket to help him.
 

tomcatjones

Active Member
I think racism played a role, but money played a bigger role imo. William Randolph Hearst was the biggest newspaper distributor in America back in the 1930's, and hemp posed a real threat to his newspaper and paper mill monopoly that he had. He pushed hard for prohibition for this reason, and had Henry Anslinger in his back pocket to help him.
and now imho race means shit. the only difference in the world now is that the rich white men who control and fuck this world over have allowed more whites into poverty.. and what do they hate more than degenerate races? poor people, regardless of color.

this is why they are trying to make it illegal for you to sell your sweat. http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/07/19/war-home-gardens (im sure you guys have seen other news stories like this one)..the things you buy.. they are not yours. they were chosen for you before you even looked at it.
 

slumdog80

Well-Known Member
and now imho race means shit. the only difference in the world now is that the rich white men who control and fuck this world over have allowed more whites into poverty.. and what do they hate more than degenerate races? poor people, regardless of color.

this is why they are trying to make it illegal for you to sell your sweat. http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/07/19/war-home-gardens (im sure you guys have seen other news stories like this one)..the things you buy.. they are not yours. they were chosen for you before you even looked at it.
"Officials are also working on drafting a law deeming it illegal to grow vegetables on front lawns." These officials should put in prison. I can not even articulate how angry this kind of thinking makes me.
 

slumdog80

Well-Known Member
gready as gready can get will land u in federal courts. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
If they told you you could not grow any plants, would you listen?
This guy had a greenhouse with 70 plants in it, and his son had a greenhouse with 70 in it. The
garden was approved by the sheriff. He will most likely die in prison after having all of his assets
stolen. He is a victim, case closed. There is no man or law that can tell me how many, when, where or
why I grow this plant. I will do my prison time with a smile just to prove my point
.
 
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