prject:STARGATE

anyone paying attention to my mad ravings will have heard of my stargate project...I figured I'd elaborate, because stargate is not top secret, and is in fact merely a set of formulae...so here goes... I've always dreamed of coming up with the ultimate brain blasting sativa designed to turn hardcore heavyweights into blithering idiots! something that would send lightweights to the mental ward for evaluation! so I searched the web for patterns in everyones top sativas. also relying on my experiences with the oldschool landrace brainrace back in the day. my initial formula makes use of subcool's vortex, and spacebomb;crossed in various configurations with malawi, and thai/lao. I've never tried the malawi, but from online research, it looks like it's the trippiest african...and I need exotic genes to mix things up...I'm looking for low CBD profile weed with definite psychedelic properties. between the lao, and malawi, I should be covered on that end....on the other end, I'm using vortex and spacebomb as the bottom!!! I figure if you're shootin' for the stars, start at the top and go from there! I'm not too concerned about ridiculous flowering time, or low yields...I want something that needs a government warning label!...the next phase after that will be the crazy chemdawg-O.G. phase...you can never get too much fuzz!!!! so the recipe goes: s.b./vortex crossed to thai and malawi(double crossed), fish for keepers, cross these to fire white and chemdawg. you'd come up with at least 20 keeper phenos between a dozen strains...any ideas on how YOU would do it? or which strains would you substitute? this is a project for anyone crazy enough...

sounds like a good plan i would try and get durban poison mixed in for the trippy high.

I saw some stuff online-durban thai cindy...that looks pretty killer!

I've been brainstorming.......and came up with a 6 way pie chart, along the lines of: primary(thai,malawi), secondary(s.b.,vortex), and tertiary( chem valley,jack's cleaner 2,fire White, and trainwreck). I have them laid out on opposing sides, e.g.- chem valley is opposite the fire white, and the malawi and thai are opposed....this allows for a multitude of combinations through formulae straight off the top of my head(which is pretty high up at this point!)...here's an example of my peyote chart: (secondary a) X primary b) )crossed to( primary a) X tertiary a1) )....now what all that gobbledigook means in english is:spacebomb(m)/malawi(f) X thai(m)/chem valley(f)...one more example...lets try -(t4/t2 X p2)- fire white/j.c.2 X malawi....I haven't found any bad combinations; BUT...I need to experiment to find the right combinations. I feel like I've just opened some mini bletchley park! I'm cracking the enigma! the only thing is, there's a mountain of different combos, and years of man hours involved...far more than I'm capable of doing alone....I can do some combos; but this is a pandora's puzzle for sure! and there'll be plenty of failures- but that kinda' trash will still be kickass weed.

The fire white male would be a sick combo to use with the spacebomb female than bx again to the fire white. I would love to see the pre 96 bubba kush thrown somewhere in there. It's got that amazing coffee flavor and POTENT STANK nuggets. Never tried the malawi but I've also heard great things about this landrace strain. Supposed to be pretty psychedelic trippy. I wonder if the C99 came from it.

I have a master kush(kush/ kush) that smells like a fresh coffee filter. i don't know what the bubba clone smells like....subcool knows what cindy is...other people have said it's widow/ haze, but I don't really know.

What you need to do a 8 way cross, a true hydra. I have smoke one once, it was a friend of mine's aunt whos has been growing "herbs" for 40 years! You need to do alont of growing to do this but it involves growing ten plants and saving the best male from each strain at a dirrerent location (no feminized and no hermies) and stabilize your gentics, a true f6 hybrid, then when you have your 4 new strains you start crossing those together for six generations util you have locked in what you want in the herb and then you cross the last two and select the best one. this envoles a shitton of growing but if you have land and a greenhouse go nuts and I would be willing to help as much as I can. Hope you get herb worthy of the stargate dude, good luck. I have some trippy purple sative that I scored from a bag of nevilles haze and nevilles haze is not purple! and it also has uncontroled production of hairs that turn a neon orange color. 100% organic, nothing else will works.

yeah...even non purple stuff turns purple here on the central coast...the purple stuff turns black! I use biodynamic compost, so I get all the color they'll give!

today I officially begin stargate. I recieved the thai and malawi seeds from attitude. I'm adding the jack's cleaner 2 to the mix- I'm really impressed with it, and it's already 80% sativa. my big focus in stargate is to get something with a reasonable yield, yet super low cbd %; and high sketchidol percentage.

Sweet I want some seeds homeboy. has anyone tried LSD from Barney's. Supposed to be 24% THC according to attitude seeds. That strain you are trying to breed I got an idea for the name, "BLACKOUT"

there are so many different strains I can make with this group. I'm gonna' use the super sativas to cross with the heavy stuff( chem valley/ fire WHITE) as an aside to the thai traditional music blaring in your pulsating skull( zhuuu-waaaao- ,,,chiiiing,,,,chiiiiiing,,,ching-chiddl-ing ching ching!!!)...I have one heri-o.g.,; it's supposed to be 24%thc, and it's blown away by half of elite's other stuff!

Find a really nice stud out of 1 strain, pimp him to the other "best" females.. Work from there. At least its prob what I'd do.. 1 of those Vortex males or a real cherry dank space bomb male to all the best females.. again just my thoughts can't wait to see what you come up with!!!

I'm already doing exactly that...the spacebomb male(the big one) just started opening...I've got plenty of V2 pollen,and V1& V2 are still going....the malawis I got yesterday popped in 12 hrs. the thai haven't yet. I'm gonna' veg them for 2 wks., then flower out for crossing. I'll grow a big one of each next year...it's a bit late for them outdoors this year, and they don't yield enough for indoor.

i think you have your bases covered on the strains. i'd just focus on the "psychedelic' traits you want in the females and "drug variety" cues and structure in the males. paraphrasing subcool here, but he goes for the latest flowering males with dense clusters of flowers as the "drug variety" cues, in other words, not descended from rope.

good luck bro~ my efforts are called the Sativa Improvement Project. SLOWLY working on it. I have a male haze i've been growing for about a year and a half now, cloning and waiting for the right cross. He was the last in the batch to show sex, even after the females. so i'm hoping he is a true DRUG VARIETY

I've got a couple of Satori seedlings started, so maybe he'll get to fuck!

one of my spacebomb males is the tinybomb! this is EXACTLY what I need! I can't wait to see 'tiny/ fire WHITE'....talk about fuzz factory!

s.c.mtn.hillbilly said:

one of my spacebomb males is the tinybomb! this is EXACTLY what I need! I can't wait to see 'tiny/ fire WHITE'....talk about fuzz factory!

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congrats! was just reading Sub's thread about his process of discovering how to work with Tinybomb

yeah...it sounds like you'd have to go through quite a few to get a tiny male...I'm hesitant to toss his bigger brother...at least not 'til I can hit mungo jerry with it. that cross should be ultra super tasty...I just can't shut up about the mungo(crystal haze)...