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hoss12781

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What hath god wrought? Seriously wtf? Check out this seedling. I've germmed my fair share of seeds, never seen anything like this. Have you?View attachment 1842583
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56 days seed to somewhat early harvest due to the strange height and width of this pheno. I'm guessing somewhere around 1.5 oz, I had such high hopes but without bringing the plant out of the closet, mounting the panels to my roof and doing a whole mess of other work I really didn't feel like doing to gain a couple extra grams on the harvest she is now hanging upside down. It was impossible to keep her in the 'grow area' anymore even with the branches tied together. She was just too close to the lights and was bleaching out of control. Any longer and the buds would have started being affected instead of just the fan leaves
 
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on a more pleasant note the bella is getting pretty close with over 50 percent of the hairs red and will easily give me an oz if not slightly more which is fairly amazing considering she sprouted on 10/20/11 and here we are on 12/11/11well less than 60 days from seed. While it's not a record breaking yield that was a pretty quick turn around for a one zip plus plant. I have her with the new 180 on top the PG 250 on its side, the super sativa is set up in a similar fashion with the other two old spec 180s. As noted earlier the sativa won't be ready until at least another two weeks. The bella should be fit for hanging sometime in the next week or so. Both have been flushed with sledgehammer twice now and are getting only pure water plus pineapple rush (sugar and carbs).
 
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early smoke report on the blackjack - she turned out rather well despite being burned towards the end. Sweet and very spicy. A really good indy/sativa mix however I will probably never grow this strain again. Too many problems with the height/width. I hate to judge based on one grow with this strain but it was really out of control and too large for my grow area, wouldn't want to go through that again. That and given the ease of trying something new or re-visiting a classic via single seed centre, the blackjack from Sweet Seeds will be a one and done.

Bella on the chopping block if I get around to it today.
 
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pics detailing what is what below. Bella chopped and drying I'm guessing somewhere between 35-45g by the time all is said and done. The blackjack was over two oz, not exactly sure as I gave helpers some wet nugs for helping with the chopping process.

The sativa is burnt but will get chopped soon enough. Only the fan leaves are affected so far - I'm blasting her with over 400w of led output right now which will cause a little bleaching. The good news - check the nuggets! This girl is the frostiest auto I've ever cranked out and the nuggets look prettier than a lot of the photo period I've grown. To all who have asked why I grow autos, here you go. bella1.jpgbella2.jpgFrostiest auto I ever grew.jpgsativa a little burnt a lot frosty.jpgsativa macro shot.jpgsuper sativa!.jpgblackjack.jpg
 
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Nice job on the autos.....they look delicious.

Have you ever just considered 12/12 from seed.....more variety and cheaper...thoughts???
 
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I have and was actually shopping for some shorter strains on single seed centre last week. I just have to make sure they don't get too big like that blackjack did or I won't have space in my closet. You really do have to keep the leds at least 10 inches away or your plants get bleached, its cool to move them closer when you know you're gonna chop in the next week or so just to blast them.

I am thinking about doing one photoperiod and two autos giving the autos one side of the closet the photo the other and doing a scrog with her. It just seems like a lot of work when I'm vary satisfied with most of the autos I grow and am easily averaging 1 and a half oz if not a tad more per plant in around 60 days per plant.

It would be nice to cut my power bill in half though ...
 
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That and while I grow indica for a friend who needs the meds I personally like sativa dom plants and there are several very good sativa autos out there these days. Growing a photo sativa inside is a pain in the arse.
 
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So I went ahead and cut down most of the sativa today, the remainder is tiny buds on lower branches that wouldn't necessarily yield anything worth writing home about - this has a purpose.

I also ordered some Gibberellic acid today. This plant will be preserved and if I've done my homework the "father" in what will be my project to create my own feminized auto seeds. If this works the fem pollen collected will be crossed back with the other super sativa seed (hopefully it germs) or be mixed with blackbrair as bb is already a sativa heavy auto.
 
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The Big Buddah Super Sativa wins. It is the best auto sativa I've grown hands down. Classy citrus taste and a great pull on the front of your head. Probably got about 50 or so grams. DSC01137.jpgDSC01138.jpgDSC01139.jpg

The remains also pictured. I haven't started treating her yet but hope I can make this girl give me some pollen.
 
The Dawg

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Hoss Your Led Grow's Has Changed My Mind About Led's.Im Currently Lookig At 4 Led's The Solar Storm,Mangum357,Lumigrow 330 And The Pro-Grow 550.All Are Impressive But I Keep Going Back To The Pro-Grow.What Are Your Thoughts.Peace And Hair Grease
 
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Man the only ones on that list I've used are the PG's and the answer is gonna depend a lot on your area and how many you're growing but if you were only looking at getting one of the 550s, if you ask me I think I could grow better with my 3 PG 180s, and the 250. The cost is roughly the same and it is really nice to be able to manipulate the panel height to maximize your coverage (and harvest). I suppose if you have a completely uniform grow it wouldn't matter but a 3w diode only penetrates so far. I'd rather have easy moving options on all of mine in lieu of being held to one mega panel.

Also thanks for the compliment.
 
The Dawg

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Ive Been Doing Some Research On Led's(Of Limited Knoledge of Led's) And I Keep Comming Back To The Pro-Grow.You Seem To Be One Of The Few I Saw Running One And Was Wondering If You Had Did Any Research On Any Of These Other Lights??I Like Your Thinking On Using Multipel Led's.I was Going To Start Out With A 2.6x2.6x60 Tent With A Pro-Grow 550.The Reason Is If I Like The Led I Will Get A 5x5x7 Tent Another PG550 With 2 PG180 As Side Lighting.I Will Use The Other Small Tent As A Veg Tent With A PG180.Also I Saw On Another Forum Where A Dude Ran A Mangum357 And Got 3/4 Lb Off One Plant In A Small Tent.Peace And Hair Grease :blsmoke:
 
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Beyond looking at the magnum and seeing some decent grow journals I can't offer much first hand experience. I didn't buy the magnum because the cost per watt was way high compared to the PG.

If you check back through this journal you'll see I've grown with lamps containing bridgelux, epistar, orsam, and cree diodes. Crees are number one for a reason. The output on some cree high output 3w diodes, used in the PGs, will leave others in the dust.

The lumigrows are also hyper expensive for what you get in terms of actual output. Also a marketing rep from monster gardens (people who sell lumigrow) decided to use this journal to spam people about how great their lights are. For that reason alone I will never buy one.
 
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Thanks For Confirming That My Research Was Correct On The Pro-Grow's.I Didnt Know About The Spamming Thats So Not Cool.It Was The Lumigrow That Pointed Back In The Direction Of Led's After Reading Some Not So Good Reviews.Ive Read Your Grow Journals A Couple Of Time's I Like Your Approach To Growing With Led's.I Will Be Updating My Grow Room This Summer So I Got Nothing But Time To Study And Learn.Peace And Hair Grease :bigjoint:
 
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Sorry man I'm done with this journal, growing some Fem Santa, Pakistani Ryder, and Auto Jack right now along with a coin flip Blackbriar seed. I'm sure I'll wind up posting random picks somewhere on this and other boards.

Guess I got lazy, all I really wanted to do was see if quality led lights were up to par with my old HID set up. That was the purpose of this journal and from my experience any small home hobby grower currently using HID would be well served to make the switch. I may do some comparison journals in the future but am taking a break right now. Thanks for visiting!
 
Endur0xX

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nice grow Hoss
I am trying the 12/12 from seeds in my LED journal, .. it looks like the plants are going to stay very small. Chemo and conKushion
 
The Dawg

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hoss12781 said:
Sorry man I'm done with this journal, growing some Fem Santa, Pakistani Ryder, and Auto Jack right now along with a coin flip Blackbriar seed. I'm sure I'll wind up posting random picks somewhere on this and other boards.

Guess I got lazy, all I really wanted to do was see if quality led lights were up to par with my old HID set up. That was the purpose of this journal and from my experience any small home hobby grower currently using HID would be well served to make the switch. I may do some comparison journals in the future but am taking a break right now. Thanks for visiting!
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Right On Hoss I Will Keep An Eye Out For Your Next Journal.Peace And Hair Grease. bongsmilie
 
hoss12781

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Endur0xX said:
nice grow Hoss
I am trying the 12/12 from seeds in my LED journal, .. it looks like the plants are going to stay very small. Chemo and conKushion
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Yeah I've had people ask me why I don't try that and my answer is the outdoor freebies and blackbriars I gave to an outdoor grower. Unless they got a ton of light they were pretty puny. The ones that more or less got 12/12 from seed outside got an oz so not a total loss but I think dwarfs are on a death clock from the moment they sprout and if you blast them with as much light as possible (without burning) you'll be in much better shape on the 23.5/.5 schedule.

Also the 'fem' santa I planted turned out to be a dude. That was the second time in a batch of three fem seeds. Very disappointing.
 
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