Pro-Life GOP congressman Tim Murphy to resign Oct. 21 for asking his mistress to get an abortion

see4

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C4 it was a female. A poor N Lite strain I abused outside. It got mites. Endured cold temps. I didn't even know then about flipping and the light cycles.

Learned how to grow and grow well here at RIU.

Is "retard" necessary. That's gotta violate all the sjw/pc dogma.

Are you a hypocrite that way?
Sweetie, I mean what I say, and say what I mean.

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You are in fact less advanced in mental development than is usual for your age (presumed). Or perhaps it's that you're foolish or stupid?

I don't do pc. I'm good with calling things as they are.
 

UncleBuck

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20 weeks is pretty close to the point of medical viability...
95% of abortions happen in the first trimester.

abortions that happen after that are to save the life of the mother or to prevent a baby with a birth defect from having a short and painful life.
 

SneekyNinja

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95% of abortions happen in the first trimester.

abortions that happen after that are to save the life of the mother or to prevent a baby with a birth defect from having a short and painful life.
In that case we have no disagreement here, I thought you meant normal "on demand" abortions and I wouldn't be pro-choice if it's around the point of viability (24 - 26weeks now for premature babies I think with the correct care).

For genuine medical reasons I wouldn't set a limit.
 

Padawanbater2

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"United States

In 1987, the Alan Guttmacher Institute collected questionnaires from 1,900 women in the United States who came to clinics to have abortions. Of the 1,900 questioned, 420 had been pregnant for 16 or more weeks. These 420 women were asked to choose among a list of reasons they had not obtained the abortions earlier in their pregnancies. The results were as follows:

71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
6% Woman didn't know timing is important
5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
11% Other

A study in 2013 showed that most women seeking late term abortion "fit at least one of five profiles: They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous." The study data did not include women who were having abortions "on grounds of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.""

Late termination of pregnancy
 

SneekyNinja

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"United States

In 1987, the Alan Guttmacher Institute collected questionnaires from 1,900 women in the United States who came to clinics to have abortions. Of the 1,900 questioned, 420 had been pregnant for 16 or more weeks. These 420 women were asked to choose among a list of reasons they had not obtained the abortions earlier in their pregnancies. The results were as follows:

71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
6% Woman didn't know timing is important
5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
11% Other

A study in 2013 showed that most women seeking late term abortion "fit at least one of five profiles: They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous." The study data did not include women who were having abortions "on grounds of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.""

Late termination of pregnancy
Is ignorance an excuse for late term elective abortions?

It's nice that the ignorant support the ignorant like that.
 

Padawanbater2

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Yes, but arctict doesn't. He doesn't even support the half-step measure of the ACA.
It's odd for someone who claims to support universal healthcare to use conservative talking points to try to make an argument against it. That's basically the same thing Paul Ryan said in opposition to the ACA in one of his healthcare town halls.

Why not just say it's hypocritical for someone to utilize the benefits of the ACA while still opposing it and leave it at that? Did you happen to see what he said instead?
 

PCXV

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It's odd for someone who claims to support universal healthcare to use conservative talking points to try to make an argument against it. That's basically the same thing Paul Ryan said in opposition to the ACA in one of his healthcare town halls.

Why not just say it's hypocritical for someone to utilize the benefits of the ACA while still opposing it and leave it at that? Did you happen to see what he said instead?
He was throwing the right wing rhetoric back in arctic's face, as far as I could tell. I think Buck was being facetious.
 

PCXV

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Why do it like that? Why not just explain how he's a hypocrite and move on?
Personal history most likely. Buck doesn't like the guy, makes Arctic into a joke. Comedy/satire is often used a way to uncover a fundamental truth about something. In this case, it's that the right wing boots strap, strict individualist rhetoric is pure hypocrisy.
 

Padawanbater2

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makes Arctic into a joke. Comedy/satire is often used a way to uncover a fundamental truth about something.
Sure, that's a good point. But I don't think that's what Buck was doing in the instance I quoted. Do you think he was just joking around when he told Arctic "you had to have cancer blasted out of your old, feeble,infirm, worthless nazi body twice but you are not sucking the teet of uncle sam, courtesy of taxpayers like myself."?
 

UncleBuck

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Sure, that's a good point. But I don't think that's what Buck was doing in the instance I quoted. Do you think he was just joking around when he told Arctic "you had to have cancer blasted out of your old, feeble,infirm, worthless nazi body twice but you are not sucking the teet of uncle sam, courtesy of taxpayers like myself."?
i definitely was not joking, it's just a statement of fact. he's a worthless old nazi cancer sponge on the system and tries to act like he's subsidizing everyone else. he's not. he's a sponge.
 

PCXV

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Sure, that's a good point. But I don't think that's what Buck was doing in the instance I quoted. Do you think he was just joking around when he told Arctic "you had to have cancer blasted out of your old, feeble,infirm, worthless nazi body twice but you are not sucking the teet of uncle sam, courtesy of taxpayers like myself."?
Comedy is serious business.

That totally reads as over the top to me. Classic.
 

PCXV

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i definitely was not joking, it's just a statement of fact. he's a worthless old nazi cancer sponge on the system and tries to act like he's subsidizing everyone else. he's not. he's a sponge.
Comically, it is funny because it's true!

Argumentatively, it is true but it isn't funny.
 
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