Problem autflower week 5

I think im going to ask you as if we are starting from scratch

how often do you water?

how much water are you putting thru each pot every time you water

do you need to ph adjust? whats the ph of your source water and how much ph down are you adding per gallons?

are the light on in those pics or are they off... take pics with grow lights on and flash on

the purple does look like P def



tell me how your mixing your nutes again, how many mls per gallon
whats the ph of the watering solution and the ph of the waste water that comes from the bottom of the pot

whats the EC/PPM of the solution your mixing

I have to say your plants aren't looking better... theyre looking worse

use tiger bloom next watering at 1 tsp... give it 1 whole gallon of water with 1 tsp tiger bloom and 1 Tbsp. (3 tsp) big bloom. then dont water again till soil gets pretty dried out.. like 3 days.

One of the biggest mistakes new grower make is overwatering.

I did my first 2 grows in ocean forest soil with autoflowers.. I never ph'd my water or nutrients and just gave the fox farm feeding schedule but stepped up to full strength slow. I never had 1 single issue.. got awesome delicious nugs in the end.

I have since started ph'ing water and nutrients solution. If I were you I would ph'd the plain water or water with nutrients to 6.5 every time.


dont worry about little problems you'll be fine.. I've had problems bigger than yours and still harvest incredible smoke and always got atleast 2 oz's.

best I've ever done off 1 single auto was 88 grams in 5 gallons of ocean forest soil.. only thing i ever fed that 88 gram plant was tiger bloom. that was it.

I just back over your nutes

are you mixing them like this?

advanced nutrient

full strength bloom formula (EC 1.2 roughly depending on source water)
per gallon
grow 3mls
micro 9mls
bloom 6mls
b52 3mls
over drive 3mls (max)
Epsom salt 1/4 tsp

the over drive; you could easily start at 1ml in the first 2 weeks... then week 3 & 4 add 2mls....then week 5 to finish run 3mls
or you can just does 3 mls from start to finish if you want to keep it simple

with advance nutrients (being on the low end of the P scale) I would recommend ph adjustment with phosphoric acid


advance nutes
veg formula full strength (EC roughly 1.2 depending on source water)
per gallon

grow 5mls
micro 10mls
bloom 5mls
b52 5mls
Epsom salt 1/4 tsp per gallon

maybe calmag at not more than 1ml per gallon depending on your source water

again phosphoric acid is the best option for ph adjustment

the nute formula is proper and in ratio

I checked it 2x

if you mixing bloom nutes and ph adjusting with phospuric acid I cant see how youd be P def

does that happen to be a purple strain?

Yea that is a purple strain but it is on other plants as well. I only need to ph up slightly so I don't really get Phosphorus from phing and 6.5 in and 6.5 out when I feed about 4 cups of water each plant ever 4 days or so.

im4satori said:

full strength veg nutes

per gallon
5mls grow
10mls micro
5mls bloom
5mls b52
1ml calmag (may not need depending on source water)
1 gram (1/4tsp) Epsom salt

full strength bloom nutes

per gallon
0mls grow
10mls micro
5mls bloom
2.5 mls big bid
2.5mls b52
5mls overdrive
0.5 grams Epsom salt (1/8 tsp)

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I was using your full strength bloom suggestion just like this ph 6.5.

then you have salt build up

4 cups of water isn't enough

you should be watering until you get 4 cups water from the waste out the bottom lol

flush them with 3x the container size

1 gallon pot flush with 3 gallons of ph'd water

then resume feeding with the nutes per the formula

water only when the pots are dry but water heavy each time

each time you add 4 cups of solution your adding more salt

but your not putting enough volume of water thru the soil to rinse the old nutes out so its just adding salt on top of salt

when you water you need a good run off from the bottom of the pot

the rule of thumb is 20%
so it depends on the pot size

so if you dump in 1 gallon you should get 4 cups run off

if you don't get 4 cups run off then you need more volume

if you get more than 4 cups run off then you can water with a little less

So give just plain Ph'd water right now and then let them dry out for a few days and then water with nutes?

Also do I flush them now or wait until they are dry?

Wonka Morris said:

So give just plain Ph'd water right now and then let them dry out for a few days and then water with nutes?

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yes but not just plain water

flush them

3x the water volume of your container size

hmm
when did you water last?

was it plain water or nutes?

Like 3 days ago they are getting pretty light.

Slightly diluted nutes last watering

maybe a better option is to flush them with half strength nutes (half my formula) for the last few gallons

it would be nice for someone who grows in soil to double check my suggestions on how to manage your soil and waterings

I don't grow in soil

3 days

ya id say give them a good heavy soak/flush with half strength

then next watering go back to full strength

Normal lighting isn't quite as bad

water them every other with full strength nutes

the nute formula I provided is considered low but its in the ball park and its balanced
if you where watering it proper with a good volume of water I might have thought theyre in need of a higher EC/PPM
and you might find that to be true in your next grow

but its impossible to identify if they want higher EC/PPM or not because of the other issues

its better to air on the side of caution and feed less than to over feed

just looking at the pictures
they look like theyre over watered and need more food

but with the small volume of water your using I really cant say with certainty that they need a higher EC/PPM

im honestly not 100% sure

but I cant safely say "feed more"

it would be interesting to hear from someone else