Problem caught early. Any solutions?

Legen

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SirSteely said:
Im sorry I tried to help.you seem to know what it is you need to do, yet your plants look like shit, best of luck.
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I would love some help but how many times do I have to say its much larger than a cup to mean its not a solo cup?
 
Legen

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FresnoFarmer said:
Miracle Gro All purpose plant food. Or Alaska Fish Fert.
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Thank you! I ended up getting some alaksa fish fert. added it the other day. Im a little confused because the places that were looking bad before dont look any better but my new growth looks fine. is this normal?
 
FresnoFarmer

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Yes. The areas that were already looking bad will probably still die off. It takes a few days for the organic fish ferts to take effect unlike synthetic Miracle Gro which acts instantly. I am also using Alaska Fish Fert. I have also used Miracle Gro with good results. I just want to go more organic this time around. If your are growing indoors the Alaska Fish Fert is gonna smell REALLY rank in the soil for a couple days. I have made the mistake of using it indoors once and the wifey got VERY angry at me lol.
 
Legen

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FresnoFarmer said:
Yes. The areas that were already looking bad will probably still die off. It takes a few days for the organic fish ferts to take effect unlike synthetic Miracle Gro which acts instantly. I am also using Alaska Fish Fert. I have also used Miracle Gro with good results. I just want to go more organic this time around. If your are growing indoors the Alaska Fish Fert is gonna smell REALLY rank in the soil for a couple days. I have made the mistake of using it indoors once and the wifey got VERY angry at me lol.
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lmfao!!!! omg your post read my fucking mind when I opened the closet lmfao. I gagged when I oppened it. lucally its just the closet. Deff good to know about the nutes. I am anxious to see her healthy again.
 
Sparkticus

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Legen said:
I would love some help but how many times do I have to say its much larger than a cup to mean its not a solo cup?
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Check it out. You're problem started because you kept the plant for too long, in too little a container, with not enough nutrients. You said you switched into a bigger pot, but we see a picture of a half filled container you're saying is 8 inches deep by 6 inches wide. That's still small and it's half-filled. When you transplanted into the bigger pot, you should have filled the pot up more and added nutes to the soil. The plants don't need much the first few weeks, but after that they get hungry.
Legen said:
are u still stuck on the pot dude? I didnt tune in to get peoples advice on the container its growing in. it is large enough for now. I still have a gallon pot to up to I dont even have 4 full leaves growing out.View attachment 3149993
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The reason you're plant is stunted is because of the amount of soil the roots had to grow in, in the beginning. Your pot size is going to be a determining factor in how big your plants can get.

Here's a simple guide for early plant life that works for me: Germinate. Once the root is half inch or so, pop into solo cup sized container with organic gardening soil (feeds a little) and a SPRINKLE of bone meal to promote root growth. After roughly 2-3 weeks, when the root development slows and the plant is now working on upward growth (you'll notice the plant start growing up faster), I transplant into a 1 gallon pot and start feeding at 1/4 the recommended dose of nutes. I normally have a substantial root ball, with a plant 2 or 3 nodes high. I top at the 3rd node when I see good new growth. This is roughly through the first 4 weeks. I veg the plant for another 4 to 6 weeks and increase the ferts gradually as the plant tells me what it needs. After veg, I transplant into my final flowering container (3-5 gallon). I wait a week to make sure the transplant went well, then I flower. Some people will use different size pots or skip a transplant and go from a solo cup to 3 gallon, or pop the bean straight into a 1 gallon... whatever. The idea is generally the same. You want to follow the plants natural cycle and accommodate it.
 
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FresnoFarmer

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Sparkticus said:
Check it out. You're problem started because you kept the plant for too long, in too little a container, with not enough nutrients. You said you switched into a bigger pot, but we see a picture of a half filled container you're saying is 8 inches deep by 6 inches wide. That's still small and it's half-filled. When you transplanted into the bigger pot, you should have filled the pot up more and added nutes to the soil. The plants don't need much the first few weeks, but after that they get hungry.

The reason you're plant is stunted is because of the amount of soil the roots had to grow in, in the beginning. Your pot size is going to be a determining factor in how big your plants can get.

Here's a simple guide for early plant life that works for me: Germinate. Once the root is half inch or so, pop into solo cup sized container with organic gardening soil (feeds a little) and a SPRINKLE of bone meal to promote root growth. After roughly 2-3 weeks, when the root development slows and the plant is now working on upward growth (you'll notice the plant start growing up faster), I transplant into a 1 gallon pot and start feeding at 1/4 the recommended dose of nutes. I normally have a substantial root ball, with a plant 2 or 3 nodes high. I top at the 3rd node when I see good new growth. This is roughly through the first 4 weeks. I veg the plant for another 4 to 6 weeks and increase the ferts gradually as the plant tells me what it needs. After veg, I transplant into my final flowering container (3-5 gallon). I wait a week to make sure the transplant went well, then I flower. Some people will use different size pots or skip a transplant and go from a solo cup to 3 gallon, or pop the bean straight into a 1 gallon... whatever. The idea is generally the same. You want to follow the plants natural cycle and accommodate it.
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Legen

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Sparkticus said:
Check it out. You're problem started because you kept the plant for too long, in too little a container, with not enough nutrients. You said you switched into a bigger pot, but we see a picture of a half filled container you're saying is 8 inches deep by 6 inches wide. That's still small and it's half-filled. When you transplanted into the bigger pot, you should have filled the pot up more and added nutes to the soil. The plants don't need much the first few weeks, but after that they get hungry.

The reason you're plant is stunted is because of the amount of soil the roots had to grow in, in the beginning. Your pot size is going to be a determining factor in how big your plants can get.

Here's a simple guide for early plant life that works for me: Germinate. Once the root is half inch or so, pop into solo cup sized container with organic gardening soil (feeds a little) and a SPRINKLE of bone meal to promote root growth. After roughly 2-3 weeks, when the root development slows and the plant is now working on upward growth (you'll notice the plant start growing up faster), I transplant into a 1 gallon pot and start feeding at 1/4 the recommended dose of nutes. I normally have a substantial root ball, with a plant 2 or 3 nodes high. I top at the 3rd node when I see good new growth. This is roughly through the first 4 weeks. I veg the plant for another 4 to 6 weeks and increase the ferts gradually as the plant tells me what it needs. After veg, I transplant into my final flowering container (3-5 gallon). I wait a week to make sure the transplant went well, then I flower. Some people will use different size pots or skip a transplant and go from a solo cup to 3 gallon, or pop the bean straight into a 1 gallon... whatever. The idea is generally the same. You want to follow the plants natural cycle and accommodate it.
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Alright I will have to try that next time. I started in a tiny little container for first 2 weeks then moved up to a bigger one but still really small. then cup then what its in now. I wish I would have know that the small one would need so much soil. I wanna still grow her out just learning as I go but as soon as I get another seed or make my first purchase I will follow exactly that. Do you think gallon is too small to go through full process for indoor grow?
 
FresnoFarmer

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Legen said:
Alright I will have to try that next time. I started in a tiny little container for first 2 weeks then moved up to a bigger one but still really small. then cup then what its in now. I wish I would have know that the small one would need so much soil. I wanna still grow her out just learning as I go but as soon as I get another seed or make my first purchase I will follow exactly that. Do you think gallon is too small to go through full process for indoor grow?
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Sparkticus

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Legen said:
Alright I will have to try that next time. I started in a tiny little container for first 2 weeks then moved up to a bigger one but still really small. then cup then what its in now. I wish I would have know that the small one would need so much soil. I wanna still grow her out just learning as I go but as soon as I get another seed or make my first purchase I will follow exactly that. Do you think gallon is too small to go through full process for indoor grow?
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As shown by Fresno above, you can still maximize a plant with good care, even in a small pot. I have always used this method and it works for me. I have never even attempted less than a 3 gallon.
 
FresnoFarmer

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Sparkticus said:
Sweet. No doubt, I've seen some sick solo grows on here...Just saying as a general idea for new growers. And as is also perfectly expressed by the pic, bigger pots = bigger plants. Nice shots, lol. Those plants are awesome considering the size of the container, but people running 5 and 7 gallons plants are way bigger.
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I totally agree. My first grow was outdoors in 5 gallon containers. The plants got big but I had too water every day. Sometimes twice a day during hot summer days. Also when the plant becomes "rootbound" there is more heat on the roots which stresses out the plant. And that can be a whole other problem reducing yields or even making a plant hermie.
 
FresnoFarmer

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Sparkticus said:
How often and how much did u feed/water the solo cup?
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Wasn't my grow. It was some dude named colonuggs on here. He wouldnt specify, but I think he watered alot. He said that is the key to growing in small containers. I'm guessing that if you let the continaers dry out more often the roots will spread out toward the sides of the container in search of water and nutrients and then that is when you start experience "rootbound" symptoms. I wouldn't flower a cannabis plant in a container under 3 gallons. Less work and problems to worry about.
 
Sparkticus

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FresnoFarmer said:
I totally agree. My first grow was outdoors in 5 gallon containers. The plants got big but I had too water every day. Sometimes twice a day during hot summer days. Also when the plant becomes "rootbound" there is more heat on the roots which stresses out the plant. And that can be a whole other problem reducing yields or even making a plant hermie.
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Exactly. Takes a little pressure off the grower, lol.
 
Sparkticus

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FresnoFarmer said:
Wasn't my grow. It was some dude named colonuggs on here. He wouldnt specify, but I think he watered alot. He said that is the key to growing in small containers. I'm guessing that if you let the continaers dry out more often the roots will spread out toward the sides of the container in search of water and nutrients and then that is when you start experience "rootbound" symptoms. I wouldn't flower a cannabis plant in a container under 3 gallons. Less work and problems to worry about.
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Yeah, that's crazy. That is seriously getting the most out of 16 oz. of space, haha.
 
Sparkticus

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Legen said:
Alright I will have to try that next time. I started in a tiny little container for first 2 weeks then moved up to a bigger one but still really small. then cup then what its in now. I wish I would have know that the small one would need so much soil. I wanna still grow her out just learning as I go but as soon as I get another seed or make my first purchase I will follow exactly that. Do you think gallon is too small to go through full process for indoor grow?
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I mean you can finish it out in a 1 gallon but, you're more than likely going to have a pretty small plant. I don't know how to push out plants in the little containers like pictured above, sorry. There's probably a thread on it here somewhere, lol. Also,smaller containers mean a lot more attention to watering and nutes. A flowering, healthy plant in a 1 gallon is going to drink like mad.
 
Legen

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FresnoFarmer said:
@Legen Sorry dude. Didn't mean to hi-jack your thread. But too be more on topic with your question. Since it is your first grow I would go with at least a 3 gallon.
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No man no problem at all you guys are actually really helpful. I love learning Any new knowledge about what I'm doing. I am gonna get some new pots prolly switch her to a gallon pot. I'm doing my whole grow I a closet so I don't exactly want a big bud tree growing lol that's why I was wondering if there was a different option for maybe smaller potting. 2-3 gal of soil in a closet isn't gonna be too great for me ha.
 
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