Problems with seedlings

its pretty obvious I wasn't well prepared when I started my grow but I'm hoping that I can pull this off somehow.. as of now only one of my seedlings are doing good (at two weeks) but I still feel that its a bit behind on growth probably suffered a bit of transplant shock but my other two aren't doing so hot I'm not sure if they'll make it, it started as just some whitening coming from the inner parts of the nodes but soon the tips started curling up and the cotyledons are turning yellow...(pictures) first plant is my Top 44 x with Bubblegum, second two are my BB that's all deformed-no clue what's wrong with it maybe too much light? would it be okay to cut the first nodes off, since they are dying and the plants probably using energy to try and repair them (just a theory) plus it has some new growth coming out of the middle.... can a seedling survive without its cotyledons? also what is the best lighting? I have two 60Hz 27w(315) lamps whatever that means... and a small 5w grow light producing UV rays and blue light.. I have heard of people using the T5's and others using the galaxy 150W but they are a bit pricey any ideas? everyone should learn from my mistakes and have all the equipment necessary before germinating seeds or ya may run into problems like I have... thank you for your replies and input it really helps me get some useful information from the more experienced growers!

I think you might be over watering by the looks of your soil, let them dry out for a while. Those last 2 are toast.

Only a few bulbs reference at 27watt and 60hertz, im sure youd get more responses if you posted a picture of the exact bulb...

Anyway could it be this type of linear flourescent?

Kcbscrogger said:

I think you might be over watering by the looks of your soil, let them dry out for a while. Those last 2 are toast.

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Kingrow1 said:

Only a few bulbs reference at 27watt and 60hertz, im sure youd get more responses if you posted a picture of the exact bulb...
yeah so I've heard.. the only thing that I did that could have possibly damaged it is I gave it nutes early on with diluted urine (contains nitrogen) but the thing is my other plant received the same solution and it has been doing wonderful showing spontaneous new growth every day surprisingly... so I am guessing its just a stronger more resistant strain than the others so you think my other plant is going to die off huh, its not even worth giving a chance?
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yessir that's the one! lol good find it supposedly produces (sunlight) it said?? is that an okay fluorescent for my youngins or should I use a higher quality light do you know about the PAT rating of it by any chance? thanks for the comments mi amigos

yeah scrogger im aware of the overwatering issue but I don't believe that it would cause that to occur in my plant... im thinking that maybe it has nute burn due to the diluted urine I used on them in the early stages of growth the funny thing is it didn't seem to affect my other plant that I used the same solution on it has been showing spontaneous growth each day and hasn't had any problems... so you don't think my plant is going to recover, is it even worth giving her a chance? could it be an issue with the lighting possibly it is getting to hot or something?

STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING!

Read every page on that site and then retry growing.

Not trying to be a dick but "early stages of growth" at 2 weeks, overwatering, etc.

You need volumes of knowledge that would take a long time and a lot of pages. That will get you the basics.

the first picks is my grow setup and the usual closeness of them lamps i've been using the bottom two show my other plant that has been withering away but as you can see it has some new growth at the top so maybe she can come thru?? would it be bad to consider an early (topping of those first two nodes to try and promote new growth and so it wont be using all its energy trying to make them recover?

Connoisseurus Rex said:

STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING!

Read every page on that site and then retry growing.

Not trying to be a dick but "early stages of growth" at 2 weeks, overwatering, etc.

You need volumes of knowledge that would take a long time and a lot of pages. That will get you the basics.

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thanks for the link Connoisseurus I know I wasn't ready to start yet but I already have and im not trying to throw this batch out, I have done tons of research and found out so much from videos and reading articles I just love it so much... any tips on how to get these plants back up to health and continue my grow will be much appreciated...

If you want to continue... Immediately stop everything you are doing... Everything.

You can save the big one. The others are done. Pull them. They're shot.

Do not water until those pots feel light, almost empty.

What soil are you using, how far away is that light, and do you have a fan on them?

smokealotabuds said:

yessir that's the one! lol good find it supposedly produces (sunlight) it said?? is that an okay fluorescent for my youngins or should I use a higher quality light do you know about the PAT rating of it by any chance? thanks for the comments mi amigos

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Firstly i have no experience with that type of linear flourescent but there are a few who have grown with it.

It kicks out 1300 lumens so id start it at 10-12 inches above seedlings at first and make sure you have some gentle air movement around it, small pc fan etc etc.

There is one pic of a reasonably ok green seedling with nice'ish first true leaves, whatever you did there wasnt far from wrong.

Most flourescents are 50/60hz or herts so forget this and just concentrate on the 27watts which should be fine for first couple of weeks till they got a few more leaves. The daylight part refers to its colour spectrum and should be fine, plenty of red and blue spectrum is great and what dayligh has.

Obviously invest in better but out of the choices you have the 27w 60hz linear flourescent would be my choice of grow light and probably bin the rest.

Connoisseurus Rex said:

If you want to continue... Immediately stop everything you are doing... Everything.

You can save the big one. The others are done. Pull them. They're shot.

Do not water until those pots feel light, almost empty.

What soil are you using, how far away is that light, and do you have a fan on them?

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thank you for your concern and wise advice I am using some hypoinix by scotts potting soil for indoor container plans and I got some seed starting potting mix too the light is about 4" away...

oh yeah and that is probably my biggest problem is air circulation I've been trying to find a small desk fan to throw in there but Walmart here doesn't even got em.. lmao I might have to just order one online but someone told me its not a big problem not to have a fan and ventilation system for seedlings but im going to move them lights up just been trying to keep them from stretching I want them to stay short and bushy ya feel me...

Dunno anything about that light but it should be alright at that space. Get an oscillating fan on it to dry it out. Don't water again until those pots feel light and water with straight water ph'd between 6.0 and 7.0

okay wonderful glad to find out that others have used them lamps before and that they should work for a while ill will do my best to get a fan as soon as possible and thanks again everyone for the information and honest replies I needed that! Take it easy Stonas

I'm saddened by the suffering of the last two seedlings.

Good luck.

Bose said:

I'm saddened by the suffering of the last two seedlings.

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Awe me as well sorry for your loss brother...

smokealotabuds said:

oh yeah and that is probably my biggest problem is air circulation I've been trying to find a small desk fan to throw in there but Walmart here doesn't even got em.. lmao I might have to just order one online but someone told me its not a big problem not to have a fan and ventilation system for seedlings but im going to move them lights up just been trying to keep them from stretching I want them to stay short and bushy ya feel me...

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Dont fret a little stretch, its way more forgiving than having lights too close, im seeing zero stretch so far....

smokealotabuds said:

everyone should learn from my mistakes and have all the equipment necessary before germinating seeds or ya may run into problems like I have

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Hi man!

No offence, but you don't really need any special equipment to start seedlings except a potting mix. I do it like I've been taught in elementary school and it works great.

I'm sure you have some bag seeds around, am I right? If so, I would save the expensive genetics for now and practice/experiment on bag seeds. Bag seeds are not necessarily "bad". They just have full of unknowns. However, I think this doesn't matter for you yet because you need to hone your gardening skills a bit.