Project 4516

No just the one. It actually a 10 pack; they threw in 4 extra seeds. Area51 seedbank just had some additional packs but I got too many packs this year lol. Got that GG4 S1 and WAP on the way so i gotta chill and work what I have lol
I got my GG4 S1 pack and I am waiting on a pack of the Ice cream sundae (sudae driver x 4516) I got it for the 200. Both were definitely drops to grab, got that cream soda to man. Excited for next grow :)
 

tko2184

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Man I’m running envy darkness and I think I got almost all males in one pack man I’m pretty upset I’m gonna give it a few more weeks week or two but I’d be bummed out
 

jasonryan00

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Project 4516 by Grandiflora Genetics. BX seeds now available. Wondering if these are worth the $350 ticket for 10 fem. Seen pics on IG for the last year, supposedly a very gassy purple strain. Rave review smoke reports on IG, but I don't trust that as far as I can throw an old desktop PC. Backed by Berner (not sure how to interpret that). For sure a great marketing campaign...Grandiflora states "every pop a winner" and "people will build their brand with this one." "Mystery genetics," though some have suggested gelatos as parents.

Anyone with smoke reports or experience growing the line or know more about it?

LOL 350 for a 10 pack of fems...... that is just pure noob tax. Just because people bullshit and suck each others dick on IG doesn't mean a god damn thing at the end of the day. The term is "HYPE". Most experienced growers know that the price you pay has nothing to do with the quality you receive. Jungle boys *cough* *cough* london pound cake *cough* *cough*. it's more dependent on your skill not a pissing contest on IG, Jesus christ
 

Burna Boy

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I got the 4516bx1 pack. The genetics for 4516 is Gelato 45 x Grateful Puff (Platinum OG x Grateful Breath). I have 14 going right now, 4 outside in 5 gallon coco and 10 more in 1/4 fabric pot bags. Im gonna phenohunt these and reverse it and make my own versions of the crazy 550 and 650 ticket they want for Pineapple Piss and Ya Hemi lol. So far all are growing pretty well; im seeing 2-3 different phenotypes being expressed in the fan blades. im documenting it on my IG right now @dnaleafers if yall wanna watch. Im putting the 4 in 5 gallons into the backyard light-dep greenhouse im running this summer the week of June 22 to flower after I take cuts, and will be added to the other 10 seeds i popped in the small bags for a 14 plant indoor phenohunt under my PLC photoboost 16 strip LED.

I already have the components to make SDS spray and I probably will practice on one of the clones from the outdoor 4516's once they root. I got hella genetics and almost all the gear from Phinest and im gonna do my "Chad" thing and hit all these popular strains with the 4516 and make fems lol. I will more than likely make a grow journal thread soon for here to show you guys how it goes. Bay Area stand up!! Yeee!
Last year Lakeside_Remedy posted Project 4516 cross, and it was (Gelato 45 S1 x Platinum Puff). They have now removed it from their IG.
 

Skmagnum

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I think Skmagnum is growing it outdoors.
Yessir, I have 3 going outside. I have two in 15 gallon and one in a 10 gallon, all coco/perlite. Sidebar: Outdoor hydro is the truth, and i don’t water with nutrients every feed either. I used to search for threads back in the day about it and it’s like 2 people who did it and infinity threads asking if it could work. Well it does lol, you get stupid quick growth and huge colas. And these were transplanted in mid July from 5 gals and are like 5 feet tall AND wide. They get hose water when I’m lazy; I got hella coco/perlite plants going and I’m hand watering lol.

-If you grow it outside, provide the largest pot possible if you come across what I call a “bush” plant structure pheno (see 10 gallon) in order to increase your yield. This first pic is also a bush pheno, but was allowed to grow in 15 gallons. The second pic is the “tall” plant structure pheno. These tall phenos grow fast and kick off lots of secondary branches to create multiple tops via LST, while the bush phenos should be grown mainline style with a predetermined number of colas in mind due to the short internode spacing. Can you tell I’ve run 13 different phenos of this lady and been observing like a mofo? Lolol.

-I think they did better outside for yield vs the 10 i got going indoor. I’m doing all this in coco, so I think my yields are going to be maxed the eff out. These nugs and colas are stupid thick and very trich heavy.

Rant: And all y’all tripping on 350$ a pack. Yup it’s hype as hell, but you aren’t paying that high just for genetics; as most of y’all stated, you can get other strains for less and xyz. What you pay for is the ability as a “business/source/retailer” (for those who are on this path, not the purist ya dada I hate a Berner folks lol) to piggyback off of a known brand that has already paid for all the promotion and hype for you and “guarantee” the product will give a return. The mylar bags are even ready for you, but you are actually able to provide the real strain (even though it’s not the commercial cut, it’s from the source) and can stand out in your market and be known for actually providing the real thing. And you are paying for the opportunity to benefit from undercutting the retail version; this thing goes for $80/3.5 (I couldn’t do it personally lol) but you can get it right here for less.
-Check my IG @dnaleafers_2.0 for live updates on this 13 plant phenohunt of 4516; next up is Solfire Banana Runtz and Umami/Superseedco Cream Soda. Also got Lit/Grandi WAP phenohunt starting. I’m a hype beast. Reversed 4516 fem crosses coming soon!
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Skmagnum

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Project 4516 bx1, indoor phenohunt, 10 total. These are the phenos I have my eye on for my fem seed reversals. Indoor vs outdoor is hella different for sure; hopefully I can keep the outdoor ones healthy long enough into fall so I can get the same color changes on the big ladies. Little golden on the edges from a little too much nutes, but this is that bag appeal “they” want to pay $80/3.5 for.
End of week 8/10:
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H420Baby

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I got the 4516bx1 pack. The genetics for 4516 is Gelato 45 x Grateful Puff (Platinum OG x Grateful Breath). I have 14 going right now, 4 outside in 5 gallon coco and 10 more in 1/4 fabric pot bags. Im gonna phenohunt these and reverse it and make my own versions of the crazy 550 and 650 ticket they want for Pineapple Piss and Ya Hemi lol. So far all are growing pretty well; im seeing 2-3 different phenotypes being expressed in the fan blades. im documenting it on my IG right now @dnaleafers if yall wanna watch. Im putting the 4 in 5 gallons into the backyard light-dep greenhouse im running this summer the week of June 22 to flower after I take cuts, and will be added to the other 10 seeds i popped in the small bags for a 14 plant indoor phenohunt under my PLC photoboost 16 strip LED.

I already have the components to make SDS spray and I probably will practice on one of the clones from the outdoor 4516's once they root. I got hella genetics and almost all the gear from Phinest and im gonna do my "Chad" thing and hit all these popular strains with the 4516 and make fems lol. I will more than likely make a grow journal thread soon for here to show you guys how it goes. Bay Area stand up!! Yeee!
Wow man I been watching and chatting to you insta this whole time bro... trust me you really put the work the storms and shit.. all I know is that I got hella room to test seeds
 

growerNshower

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Project 4516 bx1, indoor phenohunt, 10 total. These are the phenos I have my eye on for my fem seed reversals. Indoor vs outdoor is hella different for sure; hopefully I can keep the outdoor ones healthy long enough into fall so I can get the same color changes on the big ladies. Little golden on the edges from a little too much nutes, but this is that bag appeal “they” want to pay $80/3.5 for.
End of week 8/10:
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Lookin pretty...how is the nose on 'em? I only popped 2, both have that beautiful sweet/perfumey gelato scent, one of 'em suuper gassy.

Outdoors in Norcal, both of them seem on the early side compared to other strains. What about you? I'm thinking 1-2 weeks and they might be ready?
 

Gemtree

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BTW, its a Gelato 45 cross (Project 4516) and Melonatta (I believe). I have some S1s and wondering if I should give em a run as I too am looking for a deep purple strain with a gassy back end.
I was gonna say looks like every other gelato, runtz, cake cross these days. I can't even enjoy ig anymore because everything looks the same.
 

H420Baby

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LOL 350 for a 10 pack of fems...... that is just pure noob tax. Just because people bullshit and suck each others dick on IG doesn't mean a god damn thing at the end of the day. The term is "HYPE". Most experienced growers know that the price you pay has nothing to do with the quality you receive. Jungle boys *cough* *cough* london pound cake *cough* *cough*. it's more dependent on your skill not a pissing contest on IG, Jesus christ
You sound like a man who never will take the step in the elite. Stop playing lol just fucking stop it! I have bought £30 seeds I have bought 200 seeds. Some seeds are hype because there a copy of a copy so fair point! Some breeders charge the money they charge because they don’t see why they should put years of hard work chasing clones and seeds just to sell them for Barney farm prices lol

if cheap seeds still ran the game, then there would be no market for it! Also hard to judge the whole game On the jungle boys they steal names of strains of shit, gage green pack full hermie as I have seen on some seed junkies strains packs of complete rubbish and people still asking for the money or replacement seeds, and he still sorting out his seed saga from years ago!

some seeds do deserve the price tag, and some don’t, like you ain’t getting nikes for the price of no branded trainers! But in the weed game everyone wants the fire but no one wants to pay for it lol
 

Skmagnum

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Lookin pretty...how is the nose on 'em? I only popped 2, both have that beautiful sweet/perfumey gelato scent, one of 'em suuper gassy.

Outdoors in Norcal, both of them seem on the early side compared to other strains. What about you? I'm thinking 1-2 weeks and they might be ready?
Yeah, 2/3 are pretty much done outside; I’m in Oakland. Here are the outdoor ones today:

Tall pheno. She flowered about two weeks after the bush pheno. This one has more colas, but they are skinnier. Here’s the colors I’m getting outside:
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Bush pheno:

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Happy Croptober y’all!
 

ak47dude

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Project 4516 bx1, indoor phenohunt, 10 total. These are the phenos I have my eye on for my fem seed reversals. Indoor vs outdoor is hella different for sure; hopefully I can keep the outdoor ones healthy long enough into fall so I can get the same color changes on the big ladies. Little golden on the edges from a little too much nutes, but this is that bag appeal “they” want to pay $80/3.5 for.
End of week 8/10:
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How much did she yield?
 
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