Prop 19/215 Loophole!

budlover13

King Tut
I posted this on another site the other night. I've spoken to a couple doctors and they agree. Depression is a valid reason and nobody can define what is depressing for YOU. What do you think? It's not lying to get it.
So I just finished watching the news and Jay Leno comes on. He says obviously Prop 19 failed to pass, so go to the doctor, tell him you're depressed Prop 19 didn't pass, and walk out with your prescription. Wouldn't really be lying, actually, just the opposite.
 

Kodank Moment

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Um....people lie all day to get medical cards. I'd say 70% of all the med cards in the united states are prescribed to people who just like to get high and don't want trouble from the cops.
 

JustAnotherFriedDay

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So you lied? How'd you get yours in WA? It's much harder to fake shit up here unless you know the docs who don't care. very select few of those type of docs in WA
 

budlover13

King Tut
Yes, a lot of people lie, but this seems to be legit. I medicate partly for depression and stress which in turn helps my Fibro and displaced disk in my neck. Or Vice-verse, I actually medicate more for the fibro, disc, and muscle spasms. Big Pharma is going to crap their pants when the movement take hold and everyone is growing their own medicine.:clap:
 

jammin screw

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Crazy shit, n I agree depression is an illness that cannabis relieves, I have the worst of thoughts n fall into a depression coma where ppl will ask what's wrong wit u at times, I have had little anxiety, n I can vouch for the herb in that matter, (vouch? Lol), but I'm serious for years I've been like that n when I started my consumption of fine grade cannabis ive felt better, yuuup
 

JustAnotherFriedDay

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Muscle spasms, insomnia, lack of appetite, problems with aggressive mind states when not stoned....


all reasons for me to medicate. if ever there was a wonder drug (the drug that cures all), cannabis would be the closest thing to it
 

budlover13

King Tut
I hadn't smoked for over a year while job hunting, went and saw a Psychiatrist because of depression and not-so-tender thoughts. She prescribes Effexor and Seroquil. We've all seen the commercials where the last half of it is filled with side-effects and disclaimers. I told her I currently posessed a current MMJ card but had chosen not to utilize it for over a year while looking for a job, doing handyman stuff, working when I can(Still get called back a couple times a month). I asked if she thought that resuming would help because I knew it would. She said "Absolutely not! You are addicted and need to get help. You hear voices.(I NEVER told anyone that because I wasn't! Well, my wife's when it's time to take out the trash:-P) You're also an alcoholic, I can smell beer on your breath."(Yes, I had 2 with lunch before our 1:45 appt)

She lectures me on the dangers of cannabis, alcohol(OK in moderation) WTF? She finally comes to the conclusion that I am suffering severe repressed dispair over a mystery event in my life that manifests as both anger and depression. Uhhhh....ok:wall: BECAUSE of this and possibly genetic predetermination she concluded that I was not only addicted to both alcohol and cigs, but NEVER smoke cannabis again because it has already made you bi-polar. It has absolutely no reason to be used as "medicine" when you just want to get high!" I really wanted to just go off on this woman. Go into Big Pharma and their role in the killing of Americans. But, she had set me up to such a point that ANYTHING I could have said or done would've just re-enforced her assertions even though I hadn't smoked in a year. (She claimed longterm brain-damage as a result of a cummulative about 15 of my 36 years.)

I'll NEVER return to HER again.:wall:
 

bunnyface

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Hey. I know prop 19 has not effect on me, in the uk, but from my exp. and my battle with depersion that pot when used for medicating deperssion can infact worse the effects ,lenght and deepth(so a quanity,say some days you feel one, and other you feel 5) of deperssion. I use it for my pains and aches(not legally but help my chronic peridental diease and shoulder dislocation,spinal biffida(sorry for spelling), and to get high, but the doctor said MJ can and after long periods will effect your depression. Making it worse over the long run and after you have stopped taking it.

So I dont understand why depression can be helped, in the long run, with mj.
Mj in small amounts to people who dont habbitually smoke it can help with deperssion for a small period, but if you smoke it regualrly before you have seen the doctor chance are they will blame the MJ for why you feel so down, and as some one has said, the doctor will try to give you anything but MJ. if you really want to get mj on percription try it as a pain medication and try that route over the derpession way.
That way us people who actually suffer from this problem dont get givin pot and are seen to properly.
, yeah I have to take diazipam, mitazapam, and hitra-zi-pam,one of each once aday. not sure about how to spell that last one.
These are a hell of alot more effective than pot at tacialing depression. So if your doctor dose give you the card for being 'depressed' he/she probly knows you just want pot, as they have an arsnel of pills to use for depression that work hands down, 5 times better than MJ.

Also some one says insomina, lack of apittie, agressive mind states when not stoned, is a reason to medicate, NO. , you get like that beacause your not stoned and your body wants to get stoned. If you look at those symtoms , just read them back to your self,,I think you see how much of a drug addict you sound like. I cant sleep, I cant eat, I start twitching, I get angry and they all go away when Im stoned.(thats what you put!)/!!!!!
If you put when Im high on crack instead of when Im stoned, you can see how it sounds.
If you went to a doctor with those symtoms theyed take u as a drug addict.
.YOU CANT BECOME PHYSICALY ADDICTED BUT CAN MENTALY AND ON A SUBCON-SHUS LEVEL.
Once again Im sorry for spelling mistakes,,,
Anyhow thats my two bits, take it easy and happy grows.
 
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