Proposed pot regulations open door to craft growers, licensing non-violent offenders

TheRealDman

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Oh no they haven't....lol....we're getting smaller by the day though...that injuction will be lifted...and the argument will be that there is a valid medical program...
As long as Dr’s aren’t signing (or very few), and as long as you have to purchase the prescription...there is nothing valid about the ACMPR. The Libs have enough on their plate without going after MMAR again. I’m quite sure they’re willing to just let us die off!
 

cannadan

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Give it time. Once they pat themselves on the back for recreational they're going to try and "improve" the medical system. Lets not forget they said it's temporary in its current form.
by improve you mean put up more barriers to access, make it tougher to qualify,make it impossible to work,or get to work, reduce the qty's for all.
raise the price....
 

trippingballs

Active Member
Can anyone translate this?

7.2.1 Proposed Changes: Improving Patient Access
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In addition, it is proposed that the period of use of a registration - whether the registration is with a federally-licensed seller of cannabis for medical purposes or with Health Canada - would begin on the date of initial registration, and not on the date that the medical document was signed by the health care practitioner, as is currently the case.

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I can't understand from this if they want to start your 1 year period on the date they process your application (thus extending the end date) or if they just officially want to be able to stop you from starting on the date your doctor signs?

Also they want to keep the 1 year registration. I suggested extending it to 5 years in the survey. Section 7 is where they talk about their changes to the medical program with this bill.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/programs/consultation-proposed-approach-regulation-cannabis/proposed-approach-regulation-cannabis.html#a721
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/programs/consultation-proposed-approach-regulation-cannabis/proposed-approach-regulation-cannabis.html#a721
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Can anyone translate this?



I can't understand from this if they want to start your 1 year period on the date they process your application (thus extending the end date) or if they just officially want to be able to stop you from starting on the date your doctor signs?

Also they want to keep the 1 year registration. I suggested extending it to 5 years in the survey. Section 7 is where they talk about their changes to the medical program with this bill.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/programs/consultation-proposed-approach-regulation-cannabis/proposed-approach-regulation-cannabis.html#a721
I think what they are saying is you won't waste 3 months of your year waiting for them to process the registration as it don't start until they stamp it. You would have a full year of growing. Of course if you just do what everyone else does and start when your doctor signs, who's gonna know? or care.
 

CalyxCrusher

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Then they are medicated....nothing to do with rec...nothing....should fall under the ACMPR.....
What about cannabis itself then if we follow that logic? Why does the method of consumption suddenly make a difference?Like Vianna mentioned theyre simply looking at it as another retail avenue
 

GroErr

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I think what they are saying is you won't waste 3 months of your year waiting for them to process the registration as it don't start until they stamp it. You would have a full year of growing. Of course if you just do what everyone else does and start when your doctor signs, who's gonna know? or care.
Yeah that's how I'm reading it, at least it clarifies when it starts and I remember seeing people here waiting for the forms before they started. To me, this means as soon as they've received the application you're good to go.
 

GroErr

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Give it time. Once they pat themselves on the back for recreational they're going to try and "improve" the medical system. Lets not forget they said it's temporary in its current form.
I read through the whole thing with my tinfoil hat on and at first I thought I saw some areas where there was a hint of future plans to change ACMPR. But after going through the whole document, they specifically allowed for and even reduced some restrictions in the current ACMPR. I think where they will go is that once all of this is in place, if you're MMAR your time is limited and you should be looking for alternatives to obtain your ACMPR with as high a limit as you can get a doc to sign off for. Of course there's always the chance they'll try and tweak ACMPR but it would be a while, they'll be busy just putting all of this (and edibles) in place for the first couple of years.
 

GroErr

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After going through the whole document, I'll be taking a serious look at the micro grower whenever they get their shit together and finalize/pass this thing. On the surface it looks like they'll have more reasonable requirements/rules for both the micro grower and nursery class of business, and both can produce/sell seeds. Only real pita requirement is you can't run either of these businesses out of your residence, and you can't sell direct to consumers, but you can sell to other micro processors. Nothing says you can't be both or have both licenses from what I'm seeing so far.
 

WHATFG

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What about cannabis itself then if we follow that logic? Why does the method of consumption suddenly make a difference?Like Vianna mentioned theyre simply looking at it as another retail avenue
Well method of consumption at the moment will be smoking only.....
 

GroErr

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Well method of consumption at the moment will be smoking only.....
Can't remember since I'm not registered and wouldn't follow the rule anyhow, but is there no allowance for home made edibles within the ACMPR?
 

CalyxCrusher

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Well method of consumption at the moment will be smoking only.....
The point I'm making is its all the same. The only difference IMO should be that medical should cost less and be taxed less as well. So why get surprised or pissed that rec will adopt these products as well?
 

TheRealDman

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As usual Hellth Canaduh is making way more complicated than it needs to be. Why is a Standard, micro or Nursery license not allowed to sell to the public, or directly to the LP’s? By the looks of it, you could technically do it, but you need standard/micro license, a processor license, and a sales license to hit JQ Public. The Nursery license only allows for intra-sales of seeds and clones....any cannabis produced must be destroyed.
 

GroErr

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As usual Hellth Canaduh is making way more complicated than it needs to be. Why is a Standard, micro or Nursery license not allowed to sell to the public, or directly to the LP’s? By the looks of it, you could technically do it, but you need standard/micro license, a processor license, and a sales license to hit JQ Public. The Nursery license only allows for intra-sales of seeds and clones....any cannabis produced must be destroyed.
That'll be interesting to navigate the multi-license options once they get moving on this and finalize the proposal. It's a little vague in some areas around the licensing but there are hints that multi-license may be an option, even for sales. But in the current document that's as clear as mud. One of the comments I made in the survey was to simplify and make provinces more consistent, if they allow the provinces to choose on some of these proposals, the confusion is just starting.
 
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