Protests in NYC!!!

Dr Kynes

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Read it and weep or laugh if you want you cracker pendejos

NYPOST
NYPD releases stop-frisk data


  • By NATASHA VELEZ
  • Last Updated: 1:29 PM, February 5, 2013
  • Posted: 12:51 AM, February 5, 2013
and if you examine bucky's map youll see that in those neighborhoods the vast majority of the population is black.

if the High Crime Area was in brighton beach the cops would be rousting russians and eastern europeans, and if the High Crime Area were in midtown manhattan, the cast of Friends would be up against the wall spreading their buttcheeks for their cavity search. .
 

UncleBuck

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Pleased to meet you marie.

heres a map.




and heres another with the neighborhoods marked.

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how does it feel to be so wrong?
you never said the borough of brooklyn.

do you still want to stand behind your statement that 99.7% of the criminal looking folks in brooklyn are black, which is nearly 50% white?
 

Dr Kynes

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you never said the borough of brooklyn.

do you still want to stand behind your statement that 99.7% of the criminal looking folks in brooklyn are black, which is nearly 50% white?
uhh "Brooklyn" is the subject at hand, and ALL of brooklyn is not classed as High Crime Areas, but Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights, Bushwick and Brownsville sure as fuck are. and thats where this policiy is in effect, and thats where your own map shows you cannot find any whiteys, but thats probably because of White Flight which is racist, until they start moving back, and then it's Gentrification which is also racist.


fuckit, everything is racist.

also, way to try and backpedal.

Brooklyn include the White Half (south) and the Black Half (north) and your own map displays the clear demarcation line.

but your map recognizes ethnic differences so it's racist and youre racist for posting it.

and im racist for assuming you can read a map, and the map makers are racsit for not re-drawuing the borough lines to make every area racially diverse, and bloomberg is racist for not forcibly relocating people to ensure racial equity in the borough and neighborhood populations...
 

bundee1

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uhh "Brooklyn" is the subject at hand, and ALL of brooklyn is not classed as High Crime Areas, but Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights, Bushwick and Brownsville sure as fuck are. and thats where this policiy is in effect, and thats where your own map shows you cannot find any whiteys, but thats probably because of White Flight which is racist, until they start moving back, and then it's Gentrification which is also racist.


fuckit, everything is racist.
Nah just you and the cops.

Could it be the cops are padding some crime statistics and underreporting other crimes?

http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-03-07/news/the-nypd-tapes-confirmed/

In 2010, The Village Voice produced a five-part series, the "NYPD Tapes," about a cop who secretly taped his fellow New York Police Department officers.
Photography: Henry Hargreaves, Prop Styling: Sarah Guido




[h=2]Details[/h]NYPD Tapes: The Series
The NYPD Tapes Part 1
Inside Bed-Stuy's 81st Precinct
The NYPD Tapes, Part 2
Bed-Stuy street cops ordered: Turn this place into a ghost town
The NYPD Tapes, Part 3
A Detective Comes Forward About Downgraded Sexual Assaults

The NYPD Tapes, Part 4
The WhistleBlower, Adrian Schoolcraft

Follow continuing coverage of the NYPD Tapes here at our Runnin' Scared blog.

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For more than two years, Adrian Schoolcraftsecretly recorded every roll call at the 81st Precinct in Brooklyn and captured his superiors urging police officers to do two things in order to manipulate the "stats" that the department is under pressure to produce: Officers were told to arrest people who were doing little more than standing on the street, but they were also encouraged to disregard actual victims of serious crimes who wanted to file reports.
Arresting bystanders made it look like the department was efficient, while artificially reducing the amount of serious crime made the commander look good.
In October 2009, Schoolcraft met with NYPD investigators for three hours and detailed more than a dozen cases of crime reports being manipulated in the district. Three weeks after that meeting—which was supposed to have been kept secret from Schoolcraft's superiors—his precinct commander and a deputy chief ordered Schoolcraft to be dragged from his apartment and forced into the Jamaica Hospitalpsychiatric ward for six days.
In the wake of our series, NYPD commissioner Raymond Kelly ordered an investigation into Schoolcraft's claims. By June 2010, that investigation produced a report that the department has tried to keep secret for nearly two years.
The Voice has obtained that 95-page report, and it shows that the NYPD confirmed Schoolcraft's allegations. In other words, at the same time that police officials were attacking Schoolcraft's credibility, refusing to pay him, and serving him with administrative charges, the NYPD was sitting on a document that thoroughly vindicated his claims.
Investigators went beyond Schoolcraft's specific claims and found many other instances in the 81st Precinct where crime reports were missing, had been misclassified, altered, rejected, or not even entered into the computer system that tracks crime reports.
These weren't minor incidents. The victims included a Chinese-food delivery man robbed and beaten bloody, a man robbed at gunpoint, a cab driver robbed at gunpoint, a woman assaulted and beaten black and blue, a woman beaten by her spouse, and a woman burgled by men who forced their way into her apartment.
"When viewed in their totality, a disturbing pattern is prevalent and gives credence to the allegation that crimes are being improperly reported in order to avoid index-crime classifications," investigators concluded. "This trend is indicative of a concerted effort to deliberately underreport crime in the 81st Precinct."
NYPD spokesman Paul Browne did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
The investigation found that crime complaints were changed to reflect misdemeanor rather than felony crimes, which prevented those incidents from being counted in the all-important crime statistics. In addition, the investigation concluded that "an unwillingness to prepare reports for index crimes exists or existed in the command."
Moreover, a significant number of serious index crimes were not entered into the computer tracking system known as OmniForm. "This was more than administrative error," the probe concluded.
There was an "atmosphere in the command where index crimes were scrutinized to the point where it became easier to either not take the report at all or to take a report for a lesser, non-index crime," investigators concluded.
Precinct Commander Steven Mauriello "failed to meet [his] responsibility." As a result, "an atmosphere was created discouraging members of the command to accurately report index crimes."
Mauriello's lawyer and union representative say he did nothing wrong.
Some 45 members of the command were interviewed, and hundreds of documents were examined.
The implications of the report are obvious: If the 81st Precinct was a typical station house, then crime manipulation is more widespread than city officials have admitted.
John Eterno, a criminologist at Molloy College and a former NYPD captain, says that what was happening in the 81st Precinct is no isolated case. "The pressures on commanders are enormous, to make sure the crime numbers look good," Eterno says. "This is a culture. This is happening in every precinct, every transit district, and every police housing service area. This culture has got to change."
As for Mauriello, he's no rogue commander, says Eterno, who has published a book about crime reporting with John Jay College professor Eli Silverman. "Mauriello is no different from any other commander," he says. "This is just a microcosm of what is happening in the entire police department."
Indeed, it is clear from Schoolcraft's recordings that Mauriello was responding to pressure emanating from the Brooklyn North borough command and police headquarters for lower crime numbers and higher summons and stop-and-frisk numbers.
The seven index crimes—murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary, grand larceny, and auto theft—are the central public indicators of the city's crime rate and, by extension, its reputation. The crime numbers are also the bedrock in evaluating the Bloomberg administration and critical to attracting tourism and economic development to the city.
As a result, Mayor Bloomberg and Kelly have gone to great lengths to insist the crime statistics are accurate. They have publicly downplayed the Schoolcraft allegations and insisted that any "underreporting" is a tiny anomaly.
 

UncleBuck

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uhh "Brooklyn" is the subject at hand, and ALL of brooklyn is not classed as High Crime Areas, but Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights, Bushwick and Brownsville sure as fuck are. and thats where this policiy is in effect, and thats where your own map shows you cannot find any whiteys, but thats probably because of White Flight which is racist, until they start moving back, and then it's Gentrification which is also racist.


fuckit, everything is racist.
except we weren't talking about specific areas when you gave the 99.7% number, moron. check post #123.

we were talking about brooklyn in general.

still standing by that one, or you gonna make another pathetic attempt at changing the goalposts?
 

Dr Kynes

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Nah just you and the cops.

Could it be the cops are padding some crime statistics and underreporting other crimes?

http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-03-07/news/the-nypd-tapes-confirmed/
i never claimed cops werent assholes, nor did i assert that they are all innocent doe eyed Dudley Do-Rights, but the claims on the other side that "they totally are just walking around killing little kids" is BULLSHIT.

having lived in a "High Crime Area" (Watts) i can tell you that it was not kids in little league uniforms and aged grannies doing the crimes and the uniform of the criminal element is now firmly established as Fubu, Fila, Adidas (it's making a comeback) Seanjohn, and all the other hoodlum chic brands.

further, hanging out "in the street" in an area with extremely high violent crime rates means your either a perpetrator or a fool.

in watts if more than 3 people gather on a streetcorner they should HOPE it's the cops who decide to "Check Their Cards" and not the street gangs,, because the street gangs really are walking around killing littlle kids, and it';s not just other gangbangers.
 

Dr Kynes

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except we weren't talking about specific areas when you gave the 99.7% number, moron. check post #123.

we were talking about brooklyn in general.

still standing by that one, or you gonna make another pathetic attempt at changing the goalposts?
so, all this talk about the designated High Crime Areas in brooklyn didnt give you the impression that the policy is not in place throughout brooklyn, only neighborhoods with High Crime Area designations?

funny thats been ALL THROUGH this thread, and the various citations of news articles...

EVEN THE ONES YOU POSTED

so who is moving the goalposts?

oh yeah, thats you.

im dont engaging you in pissing matches for a while.

talk about the issue or stfu.
 

Dr Kynes

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I do, and I also don't have to have you explain yours to me, I know more about it than you do.

Spend much time criticizing a philosophy you know fuck all about?
of course you know about his philosophy. its in print, and he talks about it freely.

YOURS is the mystery which changes with post and cannot be defined identified or discussed since it is a fiction.


youre like the New Age assholes who claim to be "Spiritual" but their "Spirituality" is based entirely on whatever narrative they are spewing at the moment.
 

Canna Sylvan

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So you're against groups, of their own volition, agreeing to donate money towards funding research on Mars? Cause even if that group had a Star Trek force field to prevent outside people who didn't agree from enterimg. Then to make it fair, you can leave with no penalty. Even doubly fair, an outside entity would magically transport you to your anarchy world, the Mars funding group would still be a government.

So you're telling me you want to prevent people from working for the Mars funding group, even with those magical properties?

Let's make this real simple. If you ever make an agreement between another outside your family, it's a government. If you are the only one left in your family, you are part of government the moment you make an agreement with anyone.

So what I get. You're a hermit. You have an off grid generator you salvaged no one else claimed. Salvaged a server to connect online.

Damn, Thoreau, I thought you died?
 

lifegoesonbrah

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I do, and I also don't have to have you explain yours to me, I know more about it than you do.

Spend much time criticizing a philosophy you know fuck all about?

Tell me all about it, lets discuss it. You claim to be a true anarchist, what sets your philosophy apart from the anarchist you call impostors? How would a libertarian socialist economy operate compared to a free market economy? How would a corn farm operate, for example? Would the cornfield workers invest together into the means of production for corn, or would some sort of government fund the production of the corn? What say you of the proletariat cornfields?
 

UncleBuck

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so, all this talk about the designated High Crime Areas in brooklyn didnt give you the impression that the policy is not in place throughout brooklyn, only neighborhoods with High Crime Area designations?

funny thats been ALL THROUGH this thread, and the various citations of news articles...

EVEN THE ONES YOU POSTED

so who is moving the goalposts?

oh yeah, thats you.

im dont engaging you in pissing matches for a while.

talk about the issue or stfu.
i'll go ahead and recap this thread for everyone in a second. but if memory serves, this went from me mentioning that witnesses (multiple) had differing stories of what happened that night, to miss kynes accusing me of racism when i never mentioned race, miss kynes ignoring the multiple witnesses, then off to other topics like how 99.7% of all crime in brooklyn in general are all due to minorities, especially those dressed in "black modern nigger gangster culture attire", or some such shit.

gonna go take a piss, feed my yelling ducks, have a smoke, and go back over this blow for blow.

before i go, i should mention that listening to a two bit bircher like miss kynes lecture us about black modern urban attire seems quite akin to listening to a "pray the gay away" dipshit talk about the 'homosexual lifestyle' or the 'homosexual agenda'.

it's damn comical is what i am saying.
 

Dr Kynes

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i'll go ahead and recap this thread for everyone in a second. but if memory serves, this went from me mentioning that witnesses (multiple) had differing stories of what happened that night, to miss kynes accusing me of racism when i never mentioned race, miss kynes ignoring the multiple witnesses, then off to other topics like how 99.7% of all crime in brooklyn in general are all due to minorities, especially those dressed in "black modern nigger gangster culture attire", or some such shit.

gonna go take a piss, feed my yelling ducks, have a smoke, and go back over this blow for blow.

before i go, i should mention that listening to a two bit bircher like miss kynes lecture us about black modern urban attire seems quite akin to listening to a "pray the gay away" dipshit talk about the 'homosexual lifestyle' or the 'homosexual agenda'.

it's damn comical is what i am saying.
i've still seen no mention of any witness besides the "The'yre totally walking around killing little kids" bitch. being mentioned once each in 2 different news stories done not make the broad more than one person.

you declared brooklyn doesnt start till flatbush, then tried to backpedal and claim that the "High Crime Area" designated neighborhoods were never mentioned before, and of course, everybody i9s racist.

but at least youre back on topic.

cops do fuck up, cops can be racist twats, and cops can be corrupt dinkbags, but this does not prove that every cop is plotting some nefarious scheme to make bloomberg look good by rousting random black kids and gunning down local spelling bee champions on their way to the public library.

the protestors (like yourself) are venting their spleens based on biased assumptions and incomplete facts.

if a CREDIBLE witness, like say the local pastor, a local business man (crack dealers do not count) or a passing upstanding citizen says "I saw the whole thing! they murdered that kid" ill be willing to accept that but the incoherent rantings of a random bitch who asserts that the cops are " totally walking around killing little kids" doesnt do shit for me, any more than zimmerman's claims of "self defense"
 

bundee1

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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/marine-veteran-kenneth-chamberlain-sr-killed-clash-police-responded-medical-emergency-article-1.1055569

[h=4]Kenneth Chamberlain Jr. holds photo of his father, Kenneth Sr., who was shot by police and later died after officers were dispatched to his White Plains home responding to a medical emergency.


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TAKEOUR POLL


Are the police to blame for Kenneth Chamberlain Sr.'s death?

Yes, they were clearly too aggressive with an older man who posed no real threat.


No, cops have to assume every person they investigate is dangerous, they did their job.


There are not enough facts to make a decision.








[h=4]ENID ALVAREZ/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS[/h][h=4]Kenneth Chamberlain Sr. lived in the Winbrook Houses in White Plains.
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[h=4]ENID ALVAREZ/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS[/h][h=4]Kenneth Chamberlain Sr.'s apartment door.
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What began as a mission of mercy at a public housing project in White Plains ended with police killing the very man they had been dispatched to help.
By the time the rapidly escalating conflict was over, police had zapped a 68-year-old former Marine and correction officer with a stun gun, shot him with a beanbag gun and blasted him twice in the chest. The chronically ill Kenneth Chamberlain Sr. died at White Plains Hospital shortly after the early-morning clash on Nov. 19.

Only now, more than four months after the fact, have authorities finally agreed to convene a grand jury to determine if the cops committed a crime.

Like 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, Chamberlain was African-American, and his death has added fuel to the growing national debate that has flared since the Florida teen was killed on Feb. 26.

As in Florida, the White Plains incident received little press attention for weeks and authorities resisted a grand jury probe.
Since then, accounts have surfaced that at least one officer was heard on a tape hurling racial epithets and taunts in the moments before cops removed Chamberlain’s apartment door from its hinges and burst inside.

During the past several days, nearly 200,000 people have signed an online petition demanding justice in Chamberlain’s case. White Plains Mayor Tom Roach on Friday issued his first public statement of condolences to the dead man’s family.

That’s a far different atmosphere and tone than in November.

Back then, police reports stated a deranged man had attacked officers with a hatchet and a knife before cops shot him in self-defense. White Plains Public Safety Commissioner David Chong quickly declared it a “warranted use of deadly force.”

But as the weeks passed, the official story became riddled with holes.
To begin with, the police who arrived at Chamberlain’s apartment in the Winbrook Houses about 5 a.m. were not responding to a disturbance or a crime in progress.

They were supposed to be there to help the man.

Chamberlain, who lived alone, suffered from a chronic heart condition and wore a pendant to signal LifeAid, a medical alert company, in case of trouble.

That morning, the company called police after the pendant went off and Chamberlain failed to respond to a two-way audiobox installed in his apartment. He appears to have accidentally set off the device while he was sleeping.

A LifeAid employee then requested that a squad car go by the house to check on him.

When police arrived, they started banging on his door. Chamberlain yelled out to them that he was all right, that they weren’t needed.
The dead man’s son, Kenneth Chamberlain Jr., and a pair of lawyers said LifeAid’s audiobox recorded every sound inside the apartment. They listened to the recording in February in the office of Westchester County District Attorney Janet DiFiore, though authorities have not released it publicly.

According to the official police version, the officers heard loud noises inside and thought someone else might be in danger. They said they needed to force their way inside to make sure everything was okay.

But Chamberlain refused to open the door for them, according to the lawyers who listened to the audio recording. He was angry at being disturbed by the loud banging and by several police cars and fire engines. He became increasingly agitated as he saw more police arriving with guns drawn.

A nearly hour-long standoff ensued.

Chamberlain’s niece, Tonyia Greenhill, who lived in an apartment upstairs, came down and tried to talk with police, but was ignored. Her uncle sounded scared and was begging the police through the door to leave him alone, she recalled.

One of the family’s lawyers is Mayo Bartlett, a former Westchester assistant district attorney. He and the dead man’s son said someone can be heard screaming at Chamberlain on the LifeAid tape:
“I don’t give a f--k, n----r, open the door!”

One of the people banging outside was also reportedly heard yelling: “I need to use your bathroom to pee!”

Others were taunting Chamberlain’s military service after they discovered he was a former Marine.

The LifeAid dispatcher, who was listening to every word of the commotion, offers at one point to contact family members of Chamberlain to intercede, and even tries to cancel the call for police assistance.

But a police officer is heard saying “We don’t need any mediators,” according to the lawyers.
Two other video cameras captured part of the events that night, and the family and its lawyers have seen those as well.

One is a security camera in the hall of the building. Another is attached to the stun gun police used.

Those reportedly show police prying the door partly open. At one point, according to Kenneth Chamberlain Jr., a metal object is slipped through the gap in the door and falls in the hallway.

“It’s hard to tell what it is, but that could be what police are saying was a hatchet,” the son said.

The tape runs for several more minutes while cops and firefighters work to remove the hinges to the door.

When they finally do, a camera reveals Chamberlain Sr. standing inside his apartment, wearing only boxer shorts, with his arms at his side and his hands empty, according to the son and the family’s lawyers.

“The minute they got in the house, they didn’t even give him one command,” Bartlett said. “They never mentioned ‘put your hands up.’ They never told him to lay down on the bed. The first thing they did ... you could see the Taser light up ... and you could see it going directly toward him.”

Why anyone would use a stun gun on a man with a known heart condition is astounding in itself.

But the cameras don’t capture anything more after that point, according to the son and lawyers. Police say Chamberlain later came at them with a knife, and one cop fired two shots. More than four months after the incident, authorities have refused to identify that cop.

Public Safety Commissioner Chong’s office declined Tuesday to say anything about the case, saying only that there’s an ongoing investigation.

Late last Thursday, following the national furor over the failure of authorities to take Trayvon Martin’s death to a grand jury, and following weeks of protests by Chamberlain’s family, District Attorney DiFiore met with the dead man’s son and the lawyers.

At last, she confirmed to them that a grand jury will begin hearing evidence in the case this month.

A medical alert, then killed by a cop

Nov. 19, 2011

5:08 a.m.: Kenneth Chamberlain’s medical alert device accidentally goes off, triggering a response from the White Plains
Department of Public Safety.

5:25 a.m.: Police knock on Chamberlain’s door. He says he doesn’t need help and refuses to open it.

6:00 a.m.: Cops snap the lock and attempt to use Tasers on Chamberlain. One officer fires on the 68-year-old. Cops say he had a knife; the family’s attorney says he was unarmed.

7:09 a.m.: Chamberlain dies during surgery at White Plains Hospital.

Feb. 15

Chamberlain family files notice of claim saying they plan to sue the Police Department.

March 29

Westchester County District Attorney Janet DiFiore tells Chamberlain’s family the case would be presented to a grand jury within a month.

March 30

White Plains Mayor Tom Roach releases a statement giving his “condolences” to Chamberlain’s family.

April 2

Chamberlain’s son petitions White Plains City Hall to pressure police to release the shooting officer’s name.



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Canna Sylvan

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"black modern nigger gangster culture attire", or some such
shit.
I'd like to introduce you to some of my fellow vegans I met at an animal rights rally. They shaved their heads to protest the animals who lost their fur to the animal exploitation industry.

 

abandonconflict

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Tell me all about it, lets discuss it. You claim to be a true anarchist, what sets your philosophy apart from the anarchist you call impostors? How would a libertarian socialist economy operate compared to a free market economy? How would a corn farm operate, for example? Would the cornfield workers invest together into the means of production for corn, or would some sort of government fund the production of the corn? What say you of the proletariat cornfields?
No. All you want to do is troll. You go back to quoting Rawn Pawl paraphrase George Orwell poorly and I'll go back to calling you a moron. I don't want to talk about Libertarian Socialism with someone who has never actually read a book written by an anarchist.

Emma Goldman, George Orwell, and Mikhail Bakunin are all great authors, as is Noam Chomsky. I have appreciated most of their contributions to anarchism. There are also a few authors, philosophers and economists who have contributed some while also having held some views inconsistent with anarchism, such as Proudhon.

Now seriously, I have read Rothbard and Mises (subsequently rejected their views). I know about that which I criticize. It is not unreasonable that you also be mature in return. To insist that there is a dearth of information available on libertarian socialism (anarchy), is truly asinine.

As for myself in particular, I'm not here preach. I'm honestly not pushing anything; I'm challenging ideas which are foul and dystopian. At the very least, I research them beforehand. If you feel that the ideas of anarchy are foul, by all means, criticize them. That only requires you learn about them, I'll debate and let you know when you're full of shit. I'm under absolutely no obligation to give you reports on the ideas of others, whether I agree with them or not.

Yet again you've followed me into a thread to change the subject of the thread itself in an attempt to find a morsel that you can misquote out of context like your signature. To try to appeal in a way that makes it seem like I'm not the one being trolled is a good idea though, it is honestly some good trolling.
 

GOD HERE

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I'd like to introduce you to some of my fellow vegans I met at an animal rights rally. They shaved their heads to protest the animals who lost their fur to the animal exploitation industry.

So you're a log cabin republican? Cause those are some faggy friends you have.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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No. All you want to do is troll. You go back to quoting Rawn Pawl paraphrase George Orwell poorly and I'll go back to calling you a moron. I don't want to talk about Libertarian Socialism with someone who has never actually read a book written by an anarchist.

Emma Goldman, George Orwell, and Mikhail Bakunin are all great authors, as is Noam Chomsky. I have appreciated most of their contributions to anarchism. There are also a few authors, philosophers and economists who have contributed some while also having held some views inconsistent with anarchism, such as Proudhon.

Now seriously, I have read Rothbard and Mises (subsequently rejected their views). I know about that which I criticize. It is not unreasonable that you also be mature in return. To insist that there is a dearth of information available on libertarian socialism (anarchy), is truly asinine.

As for myself in particular, I'm not here preach. I'm honestly not pushing anything; I'm challenging ideas which are foul and dystopian. At the very least, I research them beforehand. If you feel that the ideas of anarchy are foul, by all means, criticize them. That only requires you learn about them, I'll debate and let you know when you're full of shit. I'm under absolutely no obligation to give you reports on the ideas of others, whether I agree with them or not.

Yet again you've followed me into a thread to change the subject of the thread itself in an attempt to find a morsel that you can misquote out of context like your signature. To try to appeal in a way that makes it seem like I'm not the one being trolled is a good idea though, it is honestly some good trolling.

Nice name drops brah. I have tried researching libertarian socialism but every time its just them talking about how much they hate capitalism and offer no solutions, just like you.
 
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