Prove to you There's a God?

mindphuk said:

Of course people called bullshit immediately otherwise there would be no more Judaism. There were plenty of other religions that didn't accept the teachings, including Roman paganism which lasted for a few centuries. You don't even seem to know the history of your own religion which you regard as truth.

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Jews diddn't accept Jesus because they had certain requirements for him to be their messiah.
He had to of been all of the following:
Be an observant Jewish man descended from the house of King David
Be an ordinary human being (as opposed to the Son of God)
Bring peace to the world
Gather all Jews back into Israel
Rebuild the ancient Temple in Jerusalem
Unite humanity in the worship of the Jewish God and Torah observance

and how many christians does he know and how close is he with them? and how often does he have to trust them with anything and

has he ever been down and out and broke and destitude?

how many christians stuck around?

betcha about as many as the heathens. (good people are hard to find)

Marlboro47 said:

Jews diddn't accept Jesus because they had certain requirements for him to be their messiah.
He had to of been all of the following:
Be an observant Jewish man descended from the house of King David
Be an ordinary human being (as opposed to the Son of God)
Bring peace to the world
Gather all Jews back into Israel
Rebuild the ancient Temple in Jerusalem
Unite humanity in the worship of the Jewish God and Torah observance

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And other religions chose to deny him because they rather believe in reincarnation and other dumb shit.
Romans did not document him because Jesus did not make an appearance in Rome( he was born in Isreal). Jesus came to save the people who were waiting for him(the jews), and since he died for our sins they didn't believe him as the messiah.

Marlboro47 said:

Jews diddn't accept Jesus because they had certain requirements for him to be their messiah.
He had to of been all of the following:
Be an observant Jewish man descended from the house of King David
Be an ordinary human being (as opposed to the Son of God)
Bring peace to the world
Gather all Jews back into Israel
Rebuild the ancient Temple in Jerusalem
Unite humanity in the worship of the Jewish God and Torah observance

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What does the reasons people called bullshit right away have to do with the fact that you were wrong?

Marlboro47 said:

Jews diddn't accept Jesus because they had certain requirements for him to be their messiah.
He had to of been all of the following:
Be an observant Jewish man descended from the house of King David
Be an ordinary human being (as opposed to the Son of God)
Bring peace to the world
Gather all Jews back into Israel
Rebuild the ancient Temple in Jerusalem
Unite humanity in the worship of the Jewish God and Torah observance

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do you know what messiah means?

seriously?

dude just keeps quoting and replying to himself.

or am i crazy?

Marlboro47 said:

And other religions chose to deny him because they rather believe in reincarnation and other dumb shit.
Romans did not document him because Jesus did not make an appearance in Rome. Jesus came to save the people who were waiting for him(the jews), and since he died for our sins they didn't believe him as the messiah.

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You do realize there were plenty of records of the Roman occupation in Judea yet none of these records mentioned Jesus, even though they did mention other Jewish leaders that were becoming a threat to Rome. Strange that they left out someone like Jesus considering the story.

sso said:

do you know what messiah means?

seriously?

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Messiah in Jewish terms means savior of the Jews(which they diddn't call Jesus their messiah because he diddn't fill the requirments).
Messiah in Christian is refering to Jesus.

mindphuk said:

You do realize there were plenty of records by the Romans of Pilate's rule and the Roman occupation in Judea yet none of these records mentioned Jesus, even though they did mention other Jewish leaders that were becoming a threat to Rome. Strange that they left out someone like Jesus considering the story.

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The romans were against the messiah in the first place, they were the ones who hunted him down and killed him. You really think they would be legit about the records?

sso said:

do you know what messiah means?

seriously?

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Marlboro47 said:

Messiah in Jewish terms means savior of the Jews(which they diddn't call Jesus their messiah because he diddn't fill the requirments).
Messiah in Christian is refering to Jesus.

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Obviously he doesn't.

Marlboro47 said:

And other religions chose to deny him because they rather believe in reincarnation and other dumb shit.
Romans did not document him because Jesus did not make an appearance in Rome( he was born in Isreal). Jesus came to save the people who were waiting for him(the jews), and since he died for our sins they didn't believe him as the messiah.

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jews (And therefore you)

believe that everyone falls to sleep, then at last day (actually according to one seer, i believe there were at least 2 last days..)

everyone gets woken up and judged.

so one shot at it. no matter what circumstance you get born into, no matter whether you ever heard of the gospel or were stillborn ina barn.

one, thats it, and you burn forever if you fail..


(though, as said before, one seer claimed you get two tries and still other later dudes said that stillborns go to limbo )

but still, all this , all this mess and we get two tries or burn forever?

so..

you support this god..

why?

and this is more clever than reincarnation (endless tries at becoming perfect (god) forever))

how?

King Herod was the one killing everyone's baby because he was so afriad of the messiah coming. Which makes sense why they diddn't record anything.

Marlboro47 said:

The romans were against the messiah in the first place, they were the ones who hunted him down and killed him. You really think they would be legit about the records?

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You seriously think the Romans would be ashamed of squelching a rebellion or crucifying anyone? They had no problems recording the other Jewish uprisings.

mindphuk said:

Obviously he doesn't.

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quite.

for your clarification marlboro

messiah means the anointed one.

it was a basic term for kings, but they were anointed with oil

( they poured some oil with some herbs in it, over the dude when he was made into a king)

((though actually some think that the ritual was originally sexual in nature (before jewish homosexuals got into it (mostly closet homo´s that hated sexuality cause they couldnt express theirs)

sexual in that, the king was selected by the queen and then he fucked her and got anointed in her holy juices..

not really queen though, more sore of the earthy representation of the holy mother, the earthmother..

kinda funny stuff.. really)

yeah, so basically jesus was supposed to be the anointed one, the king.

and only of the jews (as he stated he only came for the jews (fuck the rest apparently))

not of the world, or other men.

sso said:

jews (And therefore you)

believe that everyone falls to sleep, then at last day (actually according to one seer, i believe there were at least 2 last days..)

everyone gets woken up and judged.

so one shot at it. no matter what circumstance you get born into, no matter whether you ever heard of the gospel or were stillborn ina barn.

one, thats it, and you burn forever if you fail..


(though, as said before, one seer claimed you get two tries and still other later dudes said that stillborns go to limbo )

but still, all this , all this mess and we get two tries or burn forever?

so..

you support this god..

why?

and this is more clever than reincarnation (endless tries at becoming perfect (god) forever))

how?

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I don't believe in whatever the hell you just said. And im not jewish.

mindphuk said:

You seriously think the Romans would be ashamed of squelching a rebellion or crucifying anyone? They had no problems recording the other Jewish uprisings.

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i also doubt they would have been that worried about an ancient hebrew prophecy, that no one btw, saw coming except possibly three wise men and mary and joseph (and close friends possibly lol)

so, doesnt really make sense.

though i read somewhere , that there are actually 2 roman writings about jesus.

but nothing mentioned about miracles.

just a preacher that got some attention and then got killed.

Marlboro47 said:

King Herod was the one killing everyone's baby because he was so afriad of the messiah coming. Which makes sense why they diddn't record anything.

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I just told you how Herod could not have been alive when Jesus was born. If he was alive, then Luke was wrong about the Census of Quirinius which was 10 years after Herod's death. Matthew and Luke cannot both be right. The book you rely so heavily on is terribly flawed with contradictions.

sso said:

yeah, so basically jesus was supposed to be the anointed one, the king.

and only of the jews (as he stated he only came for the jews (fuck the rest apparently))

not of the world, or other men.

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Thats my beef with Jesus, he said fuck everyone else because they don't wanna change. Now im wondering about the future generations, if we could actually be saved, or maybe it was just those who saw Jesus at that time who can be saved.

Marlboro47 said:

I don't believe in whatever the hell you just said. And im not jewish.

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no, but thats the jewish belief.



can you give me a quote on where jesus talked of the afterlife?

sso said:

i also doubt they would have been that worried about an ancient hebrew prophecy, that no one btw, saw coming except possibly three wise men and mary and joseph (and close friends possibly lol)

so, doesnt really make sense.

though i read somewhere , that there are actually 2 roman writings about jesus.

but nothing mentioned about miracles.

just a preacher that got some attention and then got killed.

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A person named Jesus was mentioned by Josephus but one of the quotes appears to have been added later, a forgery.