Prove to you There's a God?

So do you not like enough of science to prove to yourself that certain aspects of the bible cannot be true?

sen.c said:

Exactly, that's it in a nut shell. With that being said there are other areas of science that I enjoy, like Metallurgy, Botany, Medicine, and many others. I just have always had a problem
with science in the sense that they can and will deem someone a failure if they choose not to believe certian things (not all) that lack someones personal requirements they may want to
see before they except it as fact. This very issue causes issues in learning, someone can be brilliant in the field of science but because they believe something that goes against the
hierarchy they are automatically deemed a nut or a failure when in actuality they are many times just as smart and are still shut down in the name of control of the system.

I choose to read the Bible and trust by faith in God's word and it is a personal decision that is all. It is no different than you choosing to believe in what you believe in but I am not bashing you
for how you believe. Just as you stated some things in science do not meet my personal requirements for evidence that I feel is important to address.

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sen.c said:

Exactly, that's it in a nut shell. With that being said there are other areas of science that I enjoy, like Metallurgy, Botany, Medicine, and many others. I just have always had a problem
with science in the sense that they can and will deem someone a failure if they choose not to believe certian things (not all) that lack someones personal requirements they may want to
see before they except it as fact. This very issue causes issues in learning, someone can be brilliant in the field of science but because they believe something that goes against the
hierarchy they are automatically deemed a nut or a failure when in actuality they are many times just as smart and are still shut down in the name of control of the system.

I choose to read the Bible and trust by faith in God's word and it is a personal decision that is all. It is no different than you choosing to believe in what you believe in but I am not bashing you
for how you believe. Just as you stated some things in science do not meet my personal requirements for evidence that I feel is important to address.

Budski,


No not really, it's called life and we all have to live it. Every decision we make will affect us at some point in our life, some may hit you right away and others may get you 20 years later but they all have consequences good and bad.

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Scientists don't have a problem with believers, only the ones that must deem a priori untrue anything that contradicts their interpretation of the bible. IOW, when it comes to a choice between two conclusions, it must be consistent with what the bible says or it must be wrong, evidence be damned.

well i can tel you one thing which amases me just the other day who came to my door with a bible and pamflet some jewhovau
anways as i explained i was no interested but low and behold if there wasnt the hottest tight assed big titted and i mean hotty with her well as she tryed to talk to me i couldnt but stare at this knock out on a scale of 1 - 10 she was a 20
well to make a story short as the old women babbled on point blank said i will join your faith under one condition i get into her pants lol she smiled but it was a no go they left hahaha

Budski,

It isn't really an issue of me liking or disliking science as it pertains to the Bible. Are there things in the Bible that I don't understand? Sure, but I feel that as a man with only finite knowledge that there are things that I will never understand
and that is why with some things I just have to have faith. To me trying to understand God's infinite mind would be impossible, however he did I feel give us all an extremely powerful tool the mind to be capable of critical thinking and understanding things of our world.

I find the question of "there is a God/ there is no God"

Why can't people just understand that no one will ever know such.

Just be.

We all have the right to believe whatever we want. Nobody has the ability to change what you believe, so you shouldn't fear people with different beliefs or feel that they are out to get you for your beliefs. Just believe what you want because nobody can take that away.

tardis said:

We all have the right to believe whatever we want. Nobody has the ability to change what you believe, so you shouldn't fear people with different beliefs or feel that they are out to get you for your beliefs. Just believe what you want because nobody can take that away.

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people are afraid of change thats that if science and ogeology has proven already that earth is way over 6000 yrs old yet the bible says earth is 6000 yrs old if science can prove a man guilty of raping someone thru DNA or how the deeper you go into the earth it gets hotter kinda simple when you watch history channel and they show stuff on layers of the earth and the age of it

for instance how some pesticides dont work as well as before insects adabt how a person at one time could take just one 222 and get rid of his headache but now he takes 3 or 4 to get the job done its evolution
and to think just one god made everything makes me think most ppl are hollow

We did this thing in scholl 40 ppl involved where as teacher drew a picture of a fish a simple fish easy to draw in his office and one by one we went in as the student drew his picture of a fish the teacher left his for next person to draw then took one away so next person got to draw what last person drew and so on
well after all 40 ppl were done he taped it on the board amasing from a fish to a straight line and a dote was final drawing
makes me believe the bible is truly false
as well if there was a god a savior to us all wouldnt he have shown his face by now to fix some of the hardships on earth wouldnt you think ???? if were his children
wouldnt you pick up your kid if he fell of his bike and was hurt ??????

DrFever said:

people are afraid of change thats that if science and ogeology has proven already that earth is way over 6000 yrs old yet the bible says earth is 6000 yrs old if science can prove a man guilty of raping someone thru DNA or how the deeper you go into the earth it gets hotter kinda simple when you watch history channel and they show stuff on layers of the earth and the age of it

for instance how some pesticides dont work as well as before insects adabt how a person at one time could take just one 222 and get rid of his headache but now he takes 3 or 4 to get the job done its evolution
and to think just one god made everything makes me think most ppl are hollow

We did this thing in scholl 40 ppl involved where as teacher drew a picture of a fish a simple fish easy to draw in his office and one by one we went in as the student drew his picture of a fish the teacher left his for next person to draw then took one away so next person got to draw what last person drew and so on
well after all 40 ppl were done he taped it on the board amasing from a fish to a straight line and a dote was final drawing
makes me believe the bible is truly false
as well if there was a god a savior to us all wouldnt he have shown his face by now to fix some of the hardships on earth wouldnt you think ???? if were his children
wouldnt you pick up your kid if he fell of his bike and was hurt ??????

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you should really start using periods and complete sentences. your points seem less valid when you type like a 5th grader... no offense

the example about the guy taking a pill for his headache is not evolution. thats just his body resisting a substance. a better example would be antibiotics and bacteria.

I have a solution to all... 1. READ the bible without questioning. 2. go to church. 3. have a private discussion with a preacher/minister/etc...( its the only way your gonna find out what you dont know). Hope this helps. ps. havent you watched the Waterboy? Astronomy is one of the many tools of the devil... haha.. i couldnt resist myself.

Marlboro47 said:

The holy bible.
Well, its not too hard to explain why it doesn't make sense to you. The old testament doesn't have Jesus's words in it, and the new testament does and it also says that anything without Jesus in it is completely false and is ment to deceive you because it is of the anti christs.

Making EVERYTHING in the old testament false, even if it had good morals in it. It is still there to deceive you(idk about the songs, some of them are fucked up too(Worst songs i've heard are singing for god to change things, knowing damn well God tells us if we listen to what he said while he was on earth we will be saved) (were waiting for sinners to change their ways, hence repent for heaven on earth is at stake)).

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Hate to bust your bubble buddy but Jesus is not God nor was he ever God. Nor is the being who was the Messiah that is spoken about in the Scriptures your speaking of called Jesus. Jesus was a name created 300 years ago. This man came 2,000 years ago- and he was fully a human not the God-Man you make him out to be. Christianity is the biggest lie ever pulled off by the powers of Darkness. This is specifically the group 1 John talks about and how they deny the Machiach(Messiah). YOu deny the Father and the Son since you say they are both 'one.' As in one entity. They are one in Spirit (as the Machiach says when he says for the believers to be one, as he and the Father are one.) Does that mean that all believers are all one being? No. But they are one 'Spirit' One 'Will' One 'Belief' One 'Power.' The trinity is a straight up lie. "Numbers 23:19 God is not a man that he should lie, Nor the Son of Man." How many times did this Hebrew Man (with a Hebrew Name) say he was the Son of Man? And before you start saying things like John 1 ect... Check up on your Hebrew and Greek. Most of the the English versions of the Bible have lost all meanings and true translations have been replaced by men who thought what they knew was the truth. AKA - biasly translated. Simple example.. In John Ego Eimi is translated when the Machiach says it as "I AM"- Like the Machiach is the creator. Well why isn't Ego Eimi translated into "I AM" right before this when the Pharisees ask the blind man, "Are you the blind man who recieved sight?" He said, "Ego Eimi"- and they translated it as, "I am he" Same thing the Machiach said yet they put I AM to fit their doctrine.

Obviously you are not a follower of this one either, considering the language you spew. How can salt and fresh water flow from the same spring? Neither does a rotton plant produce good fruit or a good plant produce rotton fruit. (Come on you should know this).

I once followed Him, and he revealed his self to me. But like many others I turned away to do my own thing. One of those things is smoking bud. Anyone who consistently smokes buds I know they are not following the MaChiach. He didn't need buds, and the Spirit reveals that neither do you. You are to walk as he did, so you are to always rely on the Spirit in every situation. And that includes putting artificial things into your body to accomodate for a feeling of.. whatever it is. Not only that, but if you are really walking in the way you won't ever sin because you love the truth and the truth guides you away from ALL sin.

So if your consistently sinning and that includes a whole morae of things- and think you are 'following' the Creator and his beloved Son- You are WAY off and deceiving yourself. Your words are like stones falling from your mouth that don't amount to shit. You path is crooked. Your eyes are not opened and you are stumbling in the darkness. You are like a Marijuana plant in a hydro system with no water. A curse to begin with. Leaves falling off so easily. A wilted piece of shit, that in the end (if you ever believed he was truly who he is) you MIGHT be used as manure in the soil.

I just reread your post. Dude I can't believe you think you are a follower of the Ma'Chiach yet you deny the Old testament. These books are more of a foundation than the New Testament is. What do you think all the Scriptures in the Old Testament pointed towards? What Scriptures do you think Paul and the other believers were speaking of when they were to "Study the Scriptures."??? THE OLD SCRIPTURES, not the 'NEW' - Those weren't even created yet.

I think I'm done here.

hydroleaf said:

How can salt and fresh water flow from the same spring?

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Diverging molarity and molecular mass? Just trying to see if I won a cookie. =)

The Cryptkeeper said:

Diverging molarity and molecular mass? Just trying to see if I won a cookie. =)

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Out of cookies want a special brownie?

Hepheastus420 said:

Out of cookies want a special brownie?

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Sure. .....

I'll take one of those brownies please. I need a late night snack

Marlboro47 said:

Well, if you wanna get that Jesus rep; just admit to Jesus coming in the flesh of man on earth to die because of sin. Like I can.

If it God's existance doesn't make sense, then you diddn't read the whole bible.
If you diddn't read the whole bible it makes sense that your athiest, your beliefs are based upon something you know nothing about.

Like the dumb ass statements athiests make "if gods so powerful why is the devil still alive."
Because the devil serves the Lord, and the devil has a short time to live, and eventualy he dies and thats what makes satan so pissed. Now since Gods so bad ass, hes watching the devil suffer in his rage against all the living.

Second most common statement i've heard, "if gods so powerful why doesn't he end suffering."
Most ignorant statement i've heard. For humans to be orginal from any other race(for sure are angels out there) they needed to be consumed by sin, and the "holy ones" break through that sin and prove themselves in a world of suffering.

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It's not that it does not make sense, it's that it is soo far out beyond bullshit and people still believe it that is the not making sense part. I mean c'mon seriously think to yourself, is he gonna come down and shoot fireballs from his arse like william wallace used to or?

simple answer, to a simple question...


nobody knows! lol

TogTokes said:

It's not that it does not make sense, it's that it is soo far out beyond bullshit and people still believe it that is the not making sense part. I mean c'mon seriously think to yourself, is he gonna come down and shoot fireballs from his arse like william wallace used to or?

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he will have arm cannons like megaman. except on both arms because he is god

please share the clip where william wallace shoots fireballs out of his ass?

TogTokes said:

It's not that it does not make sense, it's that it is soo far out beyond bullshit and people still believe it that is the not making sense part. I mean c'mon seriously think to yourself, is he gonna come down and shoot fireballs from his arse like william wallace used to or?

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