beginningbotanist420
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Where would you get this "pure o2"?
Pure Oxygen effects
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1982grower
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This is a thread with a real question for once. i don't think it could hurt but i do think that an aquarium pump can provide mor oxygen that the plant can use. how much bigger roots than these can you expect at 30 days old. They are twice the size now. Any bigger and i'd run outta room. 1 plant
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nasd90
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And your post actually is a real post for once. Bravo, gave you some REP.
I totally agree with your hypothesis.
I'm in the process of adding some more airstones, but I am really wary of buying another mid-level 2 output air pump and am looking for other alternatives.
What about just buying an O2 tank and running the tubes off that (splitting it of course)... I wonder how much that would be and how long it would last ?
There's got to be other ways to get O2... AIR in there !
Nice ROOTS.
1982grower
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I could actually get all the oxygen i want for free. i work at a hospital and run wiring. The beds all have valves and canisters next to the bed. If you want a large pump just buy an industrial pump and stick a massive diffuser on the end of a 1 inch dia line. Use a shopvac. 5 hp should give you some bubbles. Thanks for the reps man. make sure whatever motor you buy is 100% duty cycle and i was joking about the shopvac. maybe overkill
1982grower
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When you say mid level i kow what you mean. they are all the same. they make some bubbles but i want tons of bubbles. my whole res i want bubbling under the plants
nasd90
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LOL... A hospital... That is TITS. kiss-ass
Can I be your friend ?
Seriously though... I was in our hot tub, which is like a 6 person I think, fairly big... just sitting in there going... "THIS is going to be a HYDRO system one day..."
Little does she know... Brew-ha-ha...
The shopvac idea was funny... I knew you were kidding... Way too loud though of course. I was actually thinking about an air compressor, just set it at 20 psi or whatever it works out to be... BUT, then I don't know how often the compressor would be 'kicking off' to pressurize it's tank. Gotta think about noise.
I gotta chew on this one for a bit.
Late'...
nasd90
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Anyone used this stuff ?
Liquid Oxygen.
https://www.greensea-hydroponics.co.uk/shop/Online_Shop_Liquid_Oxygen_141.html
Liquid Oxygen.
https://www.greensea-hydroponics.co.uk/shop/Online_Shop_Liquid_Oxygen_141.html
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1982grower
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Damn man that is actually 1 of the best ideas i've heard in awhile. They have juccuzis at home depot that could hold 10 massive plants and oxygenate the water like crazy. only like 700 bucks. thats not that bad. make a large top with large pots and done. you'd have to get the kind that blow air and not water but they have them. i might have to do this.
1982grower
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You can go to home depot type places and find pumps that are quite and powerful. also highend saltwater aquarium stores sell huge pumps
nasd90
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That would be neat... It's funny, my wife just recently wanted to get rid of it to make room in the 'sun room'... The only downside I could think of for my tub, is... Imagine the NUTE mixture in that tub ? What 2 or 3 hundred gallons ?? Jeeeez.
But...Snap back to reality, Oh there goes gravity...
I'm going to make some rounds tomorrow to Home Depot and one aquarium store I know of... I'll post back. I actually heard Lowe's has more than HD for this type of stuff.
1982grower
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Good luck man
1982grower
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Thought this could help. i now believe pumping too much oxygen can be harmful to plants. Def pumping straight oxygen into the water is to much i think.
Background Information
Dissolved oxygen (DO) is essential to healthy streams and lakes. The dissolved oxygen level can be an indication of how polluted the water is and how well the water can support aquatic plant and animal life. Generally, a higher dissolved oxygen level indicates better water quality. If dissolved oxygen levels are too low, some fish and other organisms may not be able to survive. Much of the dissolved oxygen in water comes from oxygen in the air that has dissolved in the water. Some of the dissolved oxygen in the water is a result of photosynthesis of aquatic plants. On sunny days, high DO levels occur in areas of dense algae or plants due to photosynthesis. Stream turbulence may also increase DO levels because air is trapped under rapidly moving water and the oxygen from the air will dissolve in the water.
Water temperature also affects DO levels. Colder water can hold more oxygen in it than warmer water. A difference in DO levels may be seen at the test site if tested early in the morning when the water is cool and then later in the afternoon on a sunny day when the water temperature has risen. A difference in DO levels may be seen between winter water temperatures and summer water temperatures. Similarly, a difference in DO levels may be apparent at different depths of the water if there is a significant change in water temperature.
Species such as sludge worms, blackfly larvae, and leeches are more tolerant of low dissolved oxygen levels so those species are more likely to be found in warm waters. Species that need high levels of dissolved oxygen include pike, trout, bass, salmon, mayfly nymphs, stonefly nymphs, and caddisfly larvae so those will be more likely found in colder waters.
Low DO levels may be found in areas where organic material (dead plant and animal matter) is decaying. Bacteria require oxygen to decompose organic waste, thus, deplete the water of oxygen. Areas near sewage discharges sometimes have low DO levels due to this effect. DO levels will also be low in warm, slow moving waters.
Dissolved oxygen levels are often measured in parts per million (ppm) but sometimes are given in terms of Percent Saturation. Percent Saturation is the amount of oxygen dissolved in the water sample compared to the maximum amount that could be present at the same temperature. For example, water is said to be 100 % saturated if contains maximum amount of oxygen at that temperature. A water sample that is 50 % saturated only has half the amount of oxygen that it could potentially hold at that temperature. For this project, results will be reported in ppm but if you wish to determine the Percent Saturation, you can use this DO Percent Saturation chart. Sometimes water can become supersaturated with oxygen because of rapidly tumbling water. This usually lasts for a short period of time but can be harmful to fish and other aquatic organisms.
Test Procedure
To perform the dissolved oxygen test, use a dissolved oxygen test kit. Follow the instructions provided with the kit. Record results in parts per million (ppm). Some important points to remember are:
At 20 oC (room temperature) and standard atmospheric pressure (sea level), the maximum amount of oxygen that can dissolve in fresh water is 9 ppm. If the water temperature is below 20 oC, there may be more oxygen dissolved in the sample. Generally a dissolved oxygen level of 9-10 ppm is considered very good. At levels of 4 ppm or less, some fish and macroinvertebrate populations (e.g. bass, trout, salmon, mayfly nymphs, stonefly nymphs, caddisfly larvae) will begin to decline. Other organisms are more capable of surviving in water with low dissolved oxygen levels (i.e sludge worms, leeches).
DO Percent Saturation values of 80-120 % are considered to be excellent and values less than 60% or over 125% are considered to be poor.
Dissolved Oxygen
When doing any water sampling test, it is important to record certain Background Information
Dissolved oxygen (DO) is essential to healthy streams and lakes. The dissolved oxygen level can be an indication of how polluted the water is and how well the water can support aquatic plant and animal life. Generally, a higher dissolved oxygen level indicates better water quality. If dissolved oxygen levels are too low, some fish and other organisms may not be able to survive. Much of the dissolved oxygen in water comes from oxygen in the air that has dissolved in the water. Some of the dissolved oxygen in the water is a result of photosynthesis of aquatic plants. On sunny days, high DO levels occur in areas of dense algae or plants due to photosynthesis. Stream turbulence may also increase DO levels because air is trapped under rapidly moving water and the oxygen from the air will dissolve in the water.
Water temperature also affects DO levels. Colder water can hold more oxygen in it than warmer water. A difference in DO levels may be seen at the test site if tested early in the morning when the water is cool and then later in the afternoon on a sunny day when the water temperature has risen. A difference in DO levels may be seen between winter water temperatures and summer water temperatures. Similarly, a difference in DO levels may be apparent at different depths of the water if there is a significant change in water temperature.
Species such as sludge worms, blackfly larvae, and leeches are more tolerant of low dissolved oxygen levels so those species are more likely to be found in warm waters. Species that need high levels of dissolved oxygen include pike, trout, bass, salmon, mayfly nymphs, stonefly nymphs, and caddisfly larvae so those will be more likely found in colder waters.
Low DO levels may be found in areas where organic material (dead plant and animal matter) is decaying. Bacteria require oxygen to decompose organic waste, thus, deplete the water of oxygen. Areas near sewage discharges sometimes have low DO levels due to this effect. DO levels will also be low in warm, slow moving waters.
Dissolved oxygen levels are often measured in parts per million (ppm) but sometimes are given in terms of Percent Saturation. Percent Saturation is the amount of oxygen dissolved in the water sample compared to the maximum amount that could be present at the same temperature. For example, water is said to be 100 % saturated if contains maximum amount of oxygen at that temperature. A water sample that is 50 % saturated only has half the amount of oxygen that it could potentially hold at that temperature. For this project, results will be reported in ppm but if you wish to determine the Percent Saturation, you can use this DO Percent Saturation chart. Sometimes water can become supersaturated with oxygen because of rapidly tumbling water. This usually lasts for a short period of time but can be harmful to fish and other aquatic organisms.
Test Procedure
To perform the dissolved oxygen test, use a dissolved oxygen test kit. Follow the instructions provided with the kit. Record results in parts per million (ppm). Some important points to remember are:
- Try to sample the water away from the bank and below the water surface level.
- Be careful not to get any air bubbles in the sample during collection; it may result in a false high reading.
- Allow the water to gently fill the DO sample bottle from bottom to top. Put a lid on the bottle while it is under water.
- Test the DO level immediately. Biological activity in the sample and exposure to air can quickly change the DO level.
- Repeat the DO test three times.
At 20 oC (room temperature) and standard atmospheric pressure (sea level), the maximum amount of oxygen that can dissolve in fresh water is 9 ppm. If the water temperature is below 20 oC, there may be more oxygen dissolved in the sample. Generally a dissolved oxygen level of 9-10 ppm is considered very good. At levels of 4 ppm or less, some fish and macroinvertebrate populations (e.g. bass, trout, salmon, mayfly nymphs, stonefly nymphs, caddisfly larvae) will begin to decline. Other organisms are more capable of surviving in water with low dissolved oxygen levels (i.e sludge worms, leeches).
DO Percent Saturation values of 80-120 % are considered to be excellent and values less than 60% or over 125% are considered to be poor.
An interesting video: http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/12/08/easily-splitting-water-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen/
nasd90
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Wow... That video was amazing. One day right...