Quantum Boards / Too much Yapping no proof

Star Dog

Star Dog

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Aeroknow said:
No. And honestly, i rarely experience deficiencies even when i grow a bunch of different strains at the same time and in a bunch of different setups i’ve hooked people up with.
I got my nutrient routine down pretty pat. Been using the same EC for years. 1.8ish. In hydro and dirt. When watering pots of dirt with 1.8 i water with nutes everytime with plenty of run-off. Some on here think it’s too high but it’s what i do. The last four years i’ve been rockin only megacrop.
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Thanks very much, I sort of expected no to be the answer that appears to be the case with experienced growers, I realise some people need it but the claim is you need it with led in particular, I was always found that a bit unlikely, my experience with led is very limited but I found the same as you, no calmag required and no ec increases.

The moons have lined up for me so I'm about to try led and it's always good to get tit bits of info from experienced unbiased growers.

Cheers SD
 
Sofa King Smoooth

Sofa King Smoooth

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Star Dog said:
Thanks very much, I sort of expected no to be the answer that appears to be the case with experienced growers, I realise some people need it but the claim is you need it with led in particular, I was always found that a bit unlikely, my experience with led is very limited but I found the same as you, no calmag required and no ec increases.

The moons have lined up for me so I'm about to try led and it's always good to get tit bits of info from experienced unbiased growers.

Cheers SD
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I've found that the plants grown under my leds with more red and blue have red stems on the leaves and even some branches except for two that were green. Tried to adjust for calcium magnesium and burned plants in the past. Now just let them grow with red stems and have no issues.

All of the plants grown under the more white LEDs had green stems all the way. Same nutrients. Same clone. As well as from seeds.
 
Rocket Soul

Rocket Soul

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Sofa King Smoooth said:
I've found that the plants grown under my leds with more red and blue have red stems on the leaves and even some branches except for two that were green. Tried to adjust for calcium magnesium and burned plants in the past. Now just let them grow with red stems and have no issues.

All of the plants grown under the more white LEDs had green stems all the way. Same nutrients. Same clone. As well as from seeds.
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Red/purple stems usually happens due to High Irradiation Response. You can usually improve on it with higher temps. I'm trying to find the paper online but can't seem to do it this morning.
 
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HippieDudeRon

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Rocket Soul said:
Red/purple stems usually happens due to High Irradiation Response. You can usually improve on it with higher temps. I'm trying to find the paper online but can't seem to do it this morning.
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"[URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5655971/']Various factors, such as UV, visible light, cold, osmotic stress, and pathogen infection, can induce anthocyanin biosynthesis. In contrast, high temperatures are known to reduce anthocyanin accumulation in many plant species, even drastically in the skin of fruits such as grape berries and apples."[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5655971/[/URL]

"The differences in total anthocyanin production among the four temperature combination treatments decrease with increasing duration of the light treatments."
http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/plantphysiol/81/3/922.full.pdf
 
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Rocket Soul

Rocket Soul

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HippieDudeRon said:
"[URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5655971/']Various factors, such as UV, visible light, cold, osmotic stress, and pathogen infection, can induce anthocyanin biosynthesis. In contrast, high temperatures are known to reduce anthocyanin accumulation in many plant species, even drastically in the skin of fruits such as grape berries and apples."[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5655971/[/URL]

"The differences in total anthocyanin production among the four temperature combination treatments decrease with increasing duration of the light treatments."
http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/plantphysiol/81/3/922.full.pdf
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Uhhh... Yeah, as stated, higher temps reduce anthocyanin accumulation. Anthocyanin is red/purplish. Thanks for digging out the article.
 
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HippieDudeRon

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pop22 said:
Just go on youtube lots of them there. Feed the Troll! Feed the Troll!

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But you said there were dozens? You don't have a single one showing what you brought up an one+ year old thread to boast about?
Come on...it's your time to shine. Everyone has been waiting for you to come back to the party.
 
pop22

pop22

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Why, you too fucking lazy too look for your self? Or just illiterate? For someone who claims to want to know the facts, you make no effort to find them.

I know what's growing in my tents under my Diablo Lights, I don't need to prove shit. What I do know is I'm growing much more weed for 1/2 the power consumption of the HPS lights I started with. If that wasn't the case, I wouldn't be using LED tech.

Ohh yeah, and Gavita sold off their HPS tech a couple years ago to go LED. Of course, what do they know...........



HippieDudeRon said:
Still no side by side pops. Just your fan boys circle jerking each other's lack of ability,

Where are any of the dozens?
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HippieDudeRon

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pop22 said:
Why, you too fucking lazy too look for your self? Or just illiterate? For someone who claims to want to know the facts, you make no effort to find them.

I know what's growing in my tents under my Diablo Lights, I don't need to prove shit. What I do know is I'm growing much more weed for 1/2 the power consumption of the HPS lights I started with. If that wasn't the case, I wouldn't be using LED tech.

Ohh yeah, and Gavita sold off their HPS tech a couple years ago to go LED. Of course, what do they know...........
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I didn't start yelling about dozens of side by sides...you did. Now you're backing out and trying to deflect. Why?
Why you keep lying about random shit?
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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I usually pull 4+ per with 1150w’s of DE hps with this cut. Legit wedding cake. A little more than a 4x6 footprint per light. Grid/16 lights.
i just hit 4 per with the gavita 1930’s just sayin.
Not better bud. If anything, and this is in a perpetual sealed room with co2, the led buds dont’t seem to mature quite the same as under hps. I don’t get it but who fucking cares. Still fire.
Btw, i take my wedding cake 11 weeks from flip
 
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Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Are the gavita 1930e’s considered quantum boards? I would think. If they aren’t i’ll kick rocks and get lost
 
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Northwood

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Aeroknow said:
I usually pull 4+ per with 1150w’s of DE hps with this cut. Legit wedding cake. A little more than a 4x6 footprint per light. Grid/16 lights.
i just hit 4 per with the gavita 1930’s just sayin.
Not better bud. If anything, and this is in a perpetual sealed room with co2, the led buds dont’t seem to mature quite the same as under hps. I don’t get it but who fucking cares. Still fire.
Btw, i take my wedding cake 11 weeks from flip
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Damn, if you did better than 1.6 grams/watt with HPS you're doing way better than I ever did. I think my record was more around 0.8 grams/watt, so about half of that. Back in the day getting 1 gram/watt was kinda the holy grail that I never managed to reach for some reason. I blame it on shitty genetics :P
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Northwood said:
Damn, if you did better than 1.6 grams/watt with HPS you're doing way better than I ever did. I think my record was more around 0.8 grams/watt, so about half of that. Back in the day getting 1 gram/watt was kinda the holy grail that I never managed to reach for some reason. I blame it on shitty genetics :P
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Yeah. Pullin 2lbs with old school single ended hps was the goal. You killed it! Sealed with co2 doesn’t hurt.
With DE hps, bigger footprint of course, 3lbs per or you suck and or you need new genetics.

But what really helps yield per light is bigger rooms where the whole room is lit up, grid style.
12’ high ceilings i built this new grow with btw.
The gavita 1930’s are hanging about 14” from the ceiling. But my trees still end up around 3’ from the light.
8-10 plants per 4x8 tray. Trays are 2’ off the floor.
 
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