question about topping
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moash
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45...................
AquafinaOrbit
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45Degrees is for cloning no? Cutting straight across works fine
moash
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whats the diff???????
45 angle will keep moisture from building up on top if its a thick stem
AquafinaOrbit
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Now mind you it's 6Am and I've been stoned all night, but I have no idea why that matters. If your saying the point would cause the water to run down, that's true, and it would get caught on the node joint or foliage. I don't see why it matters though, and I also don't see why your plant is getting that much moisture. Either way though the whole point is to basically tell the plant that the stem is no good and it needs to grow new ones.
AquafinaOrbit
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You're right it's not a big deal, either way the plant will get the message and start a new stem. It does seem stupid of you though to go around answering questions with your own guesses. The angle 45 has to do with cloning nothing else.
moash
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what do u mean guess?
there was no guess
i gave my statement on the subject
thats how i do it
and foliar feeding would give u that moisture u asked about
BudMastaPhil
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this guy has a post in the avanced growing section
Howdy!
Based on quite a few questions about topping I've received here: Fimming and Topping 101 I decided to reproduce a thread on my favorite topping method published at cann.com about 10 years ago. Even though I've got much better photos from many latter grows both indoor and outdoor, I'm gonna stick with the old photos from the original thread. Lighting is HPS from start to finish with the exception of using 4' long shop fluors from germ until about 2 weeks. Some pix were taken outdoors for better resolution thanks to an old camcorder I was using.
Selecting the point for topping to get 4 main colas -
To get 4 main colas, let your seedling or cutting (clone) grow to about 5-6 nodes and pinch out (cut) the stem just above the 2nd true node. The node where the cotyledons attach doesn't count. The result will be a redistribution of the auxins and other hormones that normally collect in the tissue of the terminal leader's tip. These ho moans will be redistributed to dormant buds that reside in the nodal axis where the leaf petiole attaches to the "trunk", below the cut. The new foliar output response will be quick (within 24 hrs., see photo below) if you have a healthy growing seedling and will be your future main colas - 4 instead of the usual 1:
Here's a photo of the same plant about 8 weeks into flowering. The plant is about 42" tall, has 4 main colas with an abundance of large, healthy fan leaves.
This is an indoor shot just prior to harvest showing the colas bulking up quite nicely. Notice how the weight of the heavy colas is naturally pulling them apart, which opens the plant up so that light can penetrate the interior of the canopy. This is the same principle used by fruit orchard managers who create an open vase profile for their trees in order to increase production. This profile also has a side benefit of providing good interior air movement which reduces fungal/rot pressures.
The plant after harvest showing the branching scaffold and dominant 4 main cola "trunks", opposing nodes one right above the other. Smaller secondary branches also provided good bud production. This plant yielded over 10 oz of cured bud.
~ Topping for 2 main colas ~
Pinch out the seedling above the 1st true node to get 2 main colas:
Any questions, fire away.
Happy gardening,
Uncle Ben
Howdy!
Based on quite a few questions about topping I've received here: Fimming and Topping 101 I decided to reproduce a thread on my favorite topping method published at cann.com about 10 years ago. Even though I've got much better photos from many latter grows both indoor and outdoor, I'm gonna stick with the old photos from the original thread. Lighting is HPS from start to finish with the exception of using 4' long shop fluors from germ until about 2 weeks. Some pix were taken outdoors for better resolution thanks to an old camcorder I was using.
Selecting the point for topping to get 4 main colas -
To get 4 main colas, let your seedling or cutting (clone) grow to about 5-6 nodes and pinch out (cut) the stem just above the 2nd true node. The node where the cotyledons attach doesn't count. The result will be a redistribution of the auxins and other hormones that normally collect in the tissue of the terminal leader's tip. These ho moans will be redistributed to dormant buds that reside in the nodal axis where the leaf petiole attaches to the "trunk", below the cut. The new foliar output response will be quick (within 24 hrs., see photo below) if you have a healthy growing seedling and will be your future main colas - 4 instead of the usual 1:
Here's a photo of the same plant about 8 weeks into flowering. The plant is about 42" tall, has 4 main colas with an abundance of large, healthy fan leaves.
This is an indoor shot just prior to harvest showing the colas bulking up quite nicely. Notice how the weight of the heavy colas is naturally pulling them apart, which opens the plant up so that light can penetrate the interior of the canopy. This is the same principle used by fruit orchard managers who create an open vase profile for their trees in order to increase production. This profile also has a side benefit of providing good interior air movement which reduces fungal/rot pressures.
The plant after harvest showing the branching scaffold and dominant 4 main cola "trunks", opposing nodes one right above the other. Smaller secondary branches also provided good bud production. This plant yielded over 10 oz of cured bud.
~ Topping for 2 main colas ~
Pinch out the seedling above the 1st true node to get 2 main colas:
Any questions, fire away.
Happy gardening,
Uncle Ben
AquafinaOrbit
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How often do you foliage feed, and why do you think a stem cannot handle water? In case you didn't know it does rain outside and if water is going to be sticking anywhere it's going to be in the middle of a node.(Or are you going to give me the story that the nutes will burn the stem now) I said guess because 45degrees is a known angle for cloning. If you had just said angle it then it would have been believable you meant for water drainage but its pretty obvious you just didn't know and now your trying to BS it.
moash
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whho said anything about nutes burning leaves... what do u think foliar feed is
u obviously wanna bash on someone...no matter what the angle is its gonna drain,i said 45 cuz that was what he put.....am i supposed to be specific and say 29?
if i didnt know i wouldnt keep replying back
when u cut a stem,it makes it more prone to infection......standing moisture increases that
so call it a guess if u want,but thats my opinion