question for expert organic tea makers.

Da Almighty Jew

Da Almighty Jew

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Ok, so i want to make a bone meal, blood meal and guano tea. I have been doing alot of reading and im not quite sure how to prepare this yet. Would letting all the ingredients sit in water together cause some type of bad bacteria to form? I know people recommend to let it sit in water im just wondering if the ingredients are combined and sat in water if that would do any harm? Also im thinking bubbling the ingredients in water for a few days would be better than letting it sit in water, would do you think?

So my plan, bubble some bone,blood,guano for two days. then add tablespoon of molasses and bubble 2 morre days. How does this sound? Is this the correct way to make this type of tea?
 
GreenChile

GreenChile

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Im not an expert, theres alot to know about compost and what not but I use teas and know a little bit about it.

You should always aeriate your water. If you dont, you can get some nasty anarobic bacteria and you dont want that.
The plan is to grow bacteria and fungus in the water that consists of the tea, but its bacteria and fungus that your plant likes.
Another reason to bubble your water, besides increasing oxygen, is to dissapate the chlorine thats in all tap water. Chlorine kills the bacteria that your trying to grow in the tea.
So bubble your water and your tea.

Lots of people have different ways to make tea but I have a bucket with a spicket, used for making beer.
All the heavy sedement sinks to the bottom so when I turn the spicket, I dont get any sediment.
Anyways, I fill up the bucket with tap water and bubble it for 24 hours to get rid of the chlorine.
I then add a few table spoons per gallon of fertilizer, a little epsom salt, Great White for beneficial microbes, a little bee pollen, and some molases.
I bubble all that for another 24 hours to multiply the beneficial microbes.
Then before I use the tea, I check the PPM of it and cut it with reverse osmosis water.
The tea itself will have a high ppm, cut it with RO water to bring it down to an acceptible PPM. (If your making a veg tea, shoot for around 700 PPM)

Hope that helps :)
 
catmando

catmando

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just get a nylon panyho or a sock and add the blood meal, bone meal, and guano to the sock and put it in you bucket of water and bubble it for 24-48 hours
 
scroglodyte

scroglodyte

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the bone meal isn't soluble. its better used in the compost pile teas are made from, or as a side dressing. check out some of the recipes in my sig.
 
scroglodyte

scroglodyte

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i brew, and sell compost tea as one of my gigs. EWC make the best teas, and i start with that as a base. and i use forest soil, to get those good fungi.
 
Da Almighty Jew

Da Almighty Jew

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your right bone meal is not water soluble.. But if you put it in water and bubble then alot of nutrients will come out of it so i think it is suitable for a nutritious tea correct me if im wrong.
 
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Wetdog

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scroglodyte said:
the bone meal isn't soluble. its better used in the compost pile teas are made from, or as a side dressing. check out some of the recipes in my sig.
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Word^^^^^

Bone meal if not added to the mix is a bit of a waste. It takes weeks if not months to break down.

I add it to the initial mix. After that, I don't bother or, find another P source.

Wet
 
Da Almighty Jew

Da Almighty Jew

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i have bone meal, blood meal, and guano bubbling right its been 24 hrs. gonna let go another 24hrs then add in the molasses and ewc. it stinks to rotten hell and if it smells this bad its gotta be good. 4 days of bone meal bubbling in water has to release some nutrients.. Well i will find out..
 
Endur0xX

Endur0xX

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I dont think your tea should smell that bad, .. its all relative I know, but usually my teas smell kind of sweet
 
Dank Raptor

Dank Raptor

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ya the best indicator of a healthy tea is the smell. If it smells bad it is bad. What you are smelling is nasty bacteria that no longer needs oxygen from the air. It gets its o2 by rotting your mix and pulling the oxygen molecules from within. what do you expect.. 4 days?
 
Da Almighty Jew

Da Almighty Jew

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Dank Raptor said:
ya the best indicator of a healthy tea is the smell. If it smells bad it is bad. What you are smelling is nasty bacteria that no longer needs oxygen from the air. It gets its o2 by rotting your mix and pulling the oxygen molecules from within. what do you expect.. 4 days?
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i wouldnt call what im doing right now brewing. its just soaking in water and bubbling. its been doing so for 24 hrs. in 12 hrs or so i will add the ewc and molasses and start the brew. Also it doesnt smell like its gone bad it smells like bone and blood and guano and that shit stinks period.
 
ghettorigger

ghettorigger

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The tea should not smell bad. It should smell earthy, like dirt.. If there was no molasses in the tea initially then the microbes had nothing to feed on so they probably did not multiply.. Bone meal is not soluble, but it has some beneficials on it if it is unsteamed bone meal, but otherwise it is just another food source.

Two things I just started doing with my teas now is using Denali gold and chopping up the roots of weeds I find in the forest, they both have loads of beneficial in them.

Plants love diversity in their diet, just like people.. Different food sources for microbes encourage more diversity in the tea. So tweak the formula a bit. Making teas is a game to me now, I always try and one up my last tea.
 
Kb's seeds

Kb's seeds

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ya bud if that tea smells bad then its not a good idea to use it, good compost tea should smell like fresh soil or compost, kinda like the forests natural soil, also u really need a good source of benificial bacteria and fungi to make a good tea, wormcastings are great for bacteria dominant tea and compost (dependin on whats in the compost) is more suited for fungi tea but can be used to make a bacteria dominant tea, also molasses will make ur tea more bacteria dominant as well which isnt a bad thing, u need to let ur water aerate too, microbes live on oxygen and will multiply rapidly in a compost tea, also the ingredients u add will affect ur tea, ive noticed adding guano to ur tea will make it foam more, also ur brewing time is a big thing to watch, i only brew my teas for 24hrs and sometimes only 12hrs, the only time i brew longer than 24hrs is when im tryin to get a good amount of protozoa in my tea, protozao are good nitrogen recyclers and they also shred sum bacteria and fungi which releases the gut of the microbes and the guts of microbes is humus, since the microbes have digested available organic matter to create stable dormant humus microbes guts are basically little fertilizer bags lol if ur new to makin tea start out simple, look up AACT online they have recipes for easy compost teas, from there ul start learning more and start to devolop ur own tea mixes, good luck bro growing organic is fun and when u start makin ur own compost and compost teas it gets alot more fun, the results ul get will astound you!
 
jamboss

jamboss

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I'm not trying to hijack but my question is concerning teas as well. I have molasses, cow and sheep manure and neptunes harvest
2-4-1, what proportions should I use to 5 gal. of water so I won't have to dilute the end product.
 
Da Almighty Jew

Da Almighty Jew

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Kb's seeds said:
ya bud if that tea smells bad then its not a good idea to use it, good compost tea should smell like fresh soil or compost, kinda like the forests natural soil, also u really need a good source of benificial bacteria and fungi to make a good tea, wormcastings are great for bacteria dominant tea and compost (dependin on whats in the compost) is more suited for fungi tea but can be used to make a bacteria dominant tea, also molasses will make ur tea more bacteria dominant as well which isnt a bad thing, u need to let ur water aerate too, microbes live on oxygen and will multiply rapidly in a compost tea, also the ingredients u add will affect ur tea, ive noticed adding guano to ur tea will make it foam more, also ur brewing time is a big thing to watch, i only brew my teas for 24hrs and sometimes only 12hrs, the only time i brew longer than 24hrs is when im tryin to get a good amount of protozoa in my tea, protozao are good nitrogen recyclers and they also shred sum bacteria and fungi which releases the gut of the microbes and the guts of microbes is humus, since the microbes have digested available organic matter to create stable dormant humus microbes guts are basically little fertilizer bags lol if ur new to makin tea start out simple, look up AACT online they have recipes for easy compost teas, from there ul start learning more and start to devolop ur own tea mixes, good luck bro growing organic is fun and when u start makin ur own compost and compost teas it gets alot more fun, the results ul get will astound you!
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i have a nice tea mix right here, this is what i use
3 gal tap water
6 tbls bone meal
6 tbls blood meal
6 tbls peruvian seabird guano
6 tbls ewc
1tbls molasses
brew for 24-36 hrs any longer add more molasses
1:1 ratio or 1:2 ratio
 
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stak

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jamboss said:
I'm not trying to hijack but my question is concerning teas as well. I have molasses, cow and sheep manure and neptunes harvest
2-4-1, what proportions should I use to 5 gal. of water so I won't have to dilute the end product.
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jamboss said:
Anyone care to help I don't wanna start a whole new thread.
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try this recipe

with 5 gallons of water
2 cups of cow and sheep compost
6.5 tablespoons of molasses
.75 tablespoon of the neptunes harvest

and if you have or can get kelp meal and soft rock phosphate include them in the brew
3.25 tablespoons of kelp meal
.75 tablespoons of soft rock phosphate


I brew it for about 36 hours
 
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