Question for the LP's and small LP's

leaffan said:

It's just something I see in my crystal ball....

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Fuck, could you imagine? You'd have LP's hiring up stoner software engineers. I would think it would be pretty hard to introduce a major mandatory expense like that after the fact that would put a bunch of people out of business.

leaffan said:

I. I go back to Health Canada's original MMPR proposal, where they make it clear that you had better be a mid size company in a very short period of time to continue playing (if you're even allowed on the field).

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Hey Leaffan, would you be able to link me to this? I haven't seen anything directly from HC stating that size of company would play any role in acceptance. In fact, I saw correspondence from them stating that one benefit of the MMPR program is that it would encourage and provide opportunities for small businesses.

hey,
I'm thinking of applying for an LP. Does anybody know any resources for finding a qualified grower with appropriate experience near the toronto area?

Devil Lettuce said:

In fact, I saw correspondence from them stating that one benefit of the MMPR program is that it would encourage and provide opportunities for small businesses.

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Hahahahahahaha. That's the funniest thing I've read on this forum all day.

HL Green said:

hey,
I'm thinking of applying for an LP. Does anybody know any resources for finding a qualified grower with appropriate experience near the toronto area?

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Hey HL,

Do you mean that you are thinking about applying to become an LP? If so, do you already have your plan, location, financing, application, QA person etc. in place and ready to go? If not, I wouldn't even worry about finding a grower at this stage as all of those other issues need to be addressed first, and it is not a fast, cheap, or easy process. There is already a huge backlog of applications in to HC, and there is a lot of speculation that they will soon close the doors on new applications for a time so they can catch up with the almost 500 active applications that they currently have in their system.

If you do have all of those things figured out and just need a grower for your operation, I may be able to put you in touch with some people.

j0yr1d3 said:

Hahahahahahaha. That's the funniest thing I've read on this forum all day.

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Just quoting what I'd read, didn't say I necessarily believed it

planning is well under way. any help would be appreciated

Devil Lettuce said:

Hey Leaffan, would you be able to link me to this? I haven't seen anything directly from HC stating that size of company would play any role in acceptance. In fact, I saw correspondence from them stating that one benefit of the MMPR program is that it would encourage and provide opportunities for small businesses.

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It was in their MMPR "proposal" I can't remember what they called that pre regulation information package. I think all that was removed once the regulations got posted...
I read it twice because it caught my attention.
There were quite a few things changed from that "intro proposal" once the regs came out...

leaffan said:

It was in their MMPR "proposal" I can't remember what they called that pre regulation information package. I think all that was removed once the regulations got posted...
I read it twice because it caught my attention.
There were quite a few things changed from that "intro proposal" once the regs came out...

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Yeah, over the last few months I have scoured the internet for every shred of info I could find regarding the MMPR, and I haven't been able to find anything along those lines coming from HC.

HL Green said:

hey,
I'm thinking of applying for an LP. Does anybody know any resources for finding a qualified grower with appropriate experience near the toronto area?

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I've recently just acquired my MMPR licence but it's not posted on the HC site. I'm close to Toronto. I've had a change of heart and don't really feel like continuing in the MMPR program. If you're interested I will sell you the company and licence...$50k sound reasonable?

Devil Lettuce said:

Yeah, over the last few months I have scoured the internet for every shred of info I could find regarding the MMPR, and I haven't been able to find anything along those lines coming from HC.

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Pretty sure they yanked it...didn't want to see the contradictions out there for public viewing.
Pharmacies was one significant change.too.

Im on my phone now but when I get to the computer I'll dig up the link. I read that document as well and it specifically said that this program is geared for small business.

leaffan said:

I've recently just acquired my MMPR licence but it's not posted on the HC site. I'm close to Toronto. I've had a change of heart and don't really feel like continuing in the MMPR program. If you're interested I will sell you the company and licence...$50k sound reasonable?

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Hey leaffan you serious about the license and selling your business? If so send me pm.

Agracan said:

Im on my phone now but when I get to the computer I'll dig up the link. I read that document as well and it specifically said that this program is geared for small business.

Hey leaffan you serious about the license and selling your business?

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Agracan, that would be of huge service and I would greatly appreciate it.

Leaffan, I am also curious if you are serious on that front.

Here you go: http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/reg4-eng.html

Agracan said:

Here you go: http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/reg4-eng.html

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You rock!

This is where I remember seeing the bit about the MMPR being geared towards small business:

“One-for-One” Rule and small business lens: Canadian courts have determined that, under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, individuals who have demonstrated a medical need for marihuana have a right to reasonable access to a legal source of marihuana for medical purposes. At the same time, marihuana is a controlled substance for which there is considerable risk of diversion to the illicit market. Thus, there is a need to ensure that sites which produce marihuana for medical purposes are secure and have secure distribution methods. Hence, while it is recognized that the proposed MMPR would impose administrative burden on business, it is also recognized that the unique and exceptional circumstances, in combination with the findings of Canadian courts that individuals who need marihuana for medical purposes have a right to reasonable access to a legal source of marihuana under the Charter, merit an exemption from the “One-for-One” Rule. Health Canada would not be required to offset the burden associated with this proposal with an equivalent reduction in administrative burden.

The small business lens requirements apply to the proposed MMPR. As licensed producers are all expected to be small businesses, regulatory compliance flexibility, such as outcome-based security requirements rather than prescriptive security requirements, has been built into the proposed MMPR for all businesses."

This is from material archived in 2012, prior to the current regs.

Ive been touting the small business lens lately too, I hope more people catch on to that one and hold HC too it or pressure them to honor it. Check the lens check list as well.

ispice said:

Ive been touting the small business lens lately too, I hope more people catch on to that one and hold HC too it or pressure them to honor it. Check the lens check list as well.

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I agree! The more small-scale LP's that are aware of this and pressure HC to hold true to their word, the better it'll be for everyone.

Right O.

Also worthy for all to take note of in the archived impact statement:

Performance measurement and evaluation
Health Canada has developed a Performance Measurement and Evaluation Plan (PMEP) to measure the performance and conduct an evaluation of the proposed MMPR. This plan specifies the methods selected for ongoing monitoring of the proposed MMPR, performance targets, indicators and data sources. These would be comprehensively tracked as part of the performance measurement strategy outlined in the PMEP. This PMEP is available upon request.

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I have been requesting this statement lately, perhaps others will be interested and make a similar requests for it.

ispice said:

Right O.

Also worthy for all to take note of in the archived impact statement:

I have been requesting this statement lately, perhaps others will be interested and make a similar requests for it.

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I for one will get on this right away, there is going to be some critical information in there.

That was a long time ago...thanks Agracan for digging that up.
You are right...it does say it is geared for small business. I'm sure we can all agree they had to say that.
If you read through it, I think you will find certain passages that show their real intent, or at the very least have you wondering.
Yes you can be small to start, as stated, but I will stand by my original thinking that you had better grow that from a small to a medium size quickly.
I think they have the pharmacy option in there too.

I certainly didn't mean to mislead anyone.
Poor memory, it was my interpretation not what was actually in type.