Good answer, +rep.I would say the only time it would ever be too early is if you have no roots.
....that aside I think its pretty common to premix with myco, it will live in the soil before transplanting. Or do a soak after transplanting either way is fine.
Well, I don't really agree with this. If you introduce myco's to your soil and moisten it, they will grow as long as there is a food source in your soil for them to feed on. Mix up a small batch innoculate with your chosen microbes, wet the soil and wrap it up and leave in a warm place. Come back in a few weeks and you will see a full bloom of microbial activity that looks like a skin of mold over your soil. I do this with my veg and flowering mix so that they are alive and active at the time of transplant, it works great.Good answer, +rep.
Yep, myco's need roots to grow. I dunk rooted clones in MycoGrow Soluble before transplanting into my mix.
Yeah, it will live in the soil and some mixes have this. Still, the roots have to find it before it does any good. Better than nothing, but dunking the clones or a soil drench after xplanting is mo betta.
Wet
If there is a carbohydrate source, and nitrogen is available, they can grow. Without those things, they need roots, yes.The beneficial bacteria will multiply, but mycorrhizae need roots to grow on. You would need a microscope to see them.
How do you think it's propagated? It needs a host plant/roots.
I'm propagating some now using alliums.
Wet
Oh man, now you gone and done it, you're gonna make me fall down the rabbit hole trying to find a link to back up my assertion. I'll be back...wet vs wolv. you are both correct to some degree. endomyco needs roots to propagate. but there is much else in our inoculants and the ecto/tricho/bacteria live free.
never too early.
Good luck!Oh man, now you gone and done it, you're gonna make me fall down the rabbit hole trying to find a link to back up my assertion. I'll be back...
I <3 shallots... thats a great post wet. very interesting stuff. I did not mean to stir the pot, lol, but this is a great topic and if wolv can find some info I'm down for reading about it. K+ allGood luck!
I tried to research all this about a year ago (propagating mycorrhizae).
Finally found a scant mention in a obscure Rodale article. They were using Leeks to grow the myco. Cut most of the roots off, chop them up and add to whatever you're planting. Re plant the leeks and grow some more.
Leeks do only so so for me, but found out mycos love alliums. Good deal since I do grow garlic, shallots and onions. Have over 20-5gal buckets going at the moment.
All in all though, it's just easier to dunk my stuff in a solution of MycoGrow Soluble at the time of transplant, or do a soil drench.
Wet
Wet you always have something good to say. I have not bulbs, tumors in containers before. I have limited workable lit soil to grow in and would like to try this. I have about 1 1/2 yds of great compost that I have filled my beds with and would like to try the leeks, shallots and garlic in containers since they take so long I try not to dedicate soil space to them. I live in an area that has very hot summers, do you think is to late to start those now? That would normally winter over here.Good deal since I do grow garlic, shallots and onions. Have over 20-5gal buckets going at the moment.
Wet
Oh come on! I spent all that time looking for it, finally found it, and nobody's gonna see it now? I'ma bump this til I get mah rep!Land ahoy! Holy crap, after all of that it's right here in front of my face the whole time. In the current issue of Maximum Yield there is an article titled: "What Should We Know About Biological Innoculants?" I tried to link the page, but it's a .pdf link, so go to page 117-118 for the specific passage you're looking for, but the article starts a page or two before that. As usual with Maximum Yield, it's a pretty good read, very informative.
http://issuu.com/maximum-yield/docs/my_usa_feb_2011?viewMode=magazine&mode=embed
Excerpt: "However, for a freshly prepared organic soilless medium, inoculation with a particular organism can be beneficial to the plant being rooted in that medium if the organism applied is able to use substances existing in the medium as an energy source while providing growth enhancement to the plant. All micro organism's require an energy source to survive and grow- that energy source may exit primarily in the rooting medium itself, or..."
Ahh... vindication...
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snew first, LOLWet you always have something good to say. I have not bulbs, tumors in containers before. I have limited workable lit soil to grow in and would like to try this. I have about 1 1/2 yds of great compost that I have filled my beds with and would like to try the leeks, shallots and garlic in containers since they take so long I try not to dedicate soil space to them. I live in an area that has very hot summers, do you think is to late to start those now? That would normally winter over here.
And all that says exactly,.... what? There is a bunch of babble that gives no specific information at all.Excerpt: "However, for a freshly prepared organic soilless medium, inoculation with a particular organism can be beneficial to the plant being rooted in that medium if the organism applied is able to use substances existing in the medium as an energy source while providing growth enhancement to the plant. All micro organism's require an energy source to survive and grow- that energy source may exit primarily in the rooting medium itself, or..."
Ahh... vindication...
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