Question / Problem week 5 flowering All Leaves dead calxy' stopped developing

tranka32

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This is my first ever attempt at growing and I have not had many problems so far but ran into something that has me wondering what's up. > Problem is that I am flowering 2 different phenotypes of DQ and one of them has had all it's leaves suddenly die. In addition, I don't see any more calyx development. The back story is that right as week #4 was finishing I burnt the hell out of one of these plants. I don't know if it was the nutes or a combination of that and being too close to the lights but after their last feeding I think the more cindy leaning one started going down hill quick. The tops turned a mustard yellow and really started to dry out. A few days later starting at the top of the plant all it's water and fan leaves crinkled up and died. What I am left with is a wispy mess that smells of hay. I have gotten rid of all the dry leaves that were falling off and trimmed the dead stuff. I plan on letting it continue to see what happens next. I estimate that it has another 2 or 3 weeks to go but not sure if it's worth it.

Strain TGA Dairy Queen
Pheno is leaning toward Cindy 99 (I think?)
Calyx to Leaf Ration is low
Resin Profile is decent to high smells like a fruity kind of Body Odor
52 Days since 12 x 12
-10 to 14 Days for stretch
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38 - 42 days flowering 56-60 day strain.

1) PICTURE OF PLANT *** VERY IMPORTANT *** (see below)
2) Growing indoor
3) Watering every 3 or 4 days as needed
4) Growing Medium= Soil amended with some coco fiber (seedling starter mix)
5)
Drainage has been poor compared to other plants started same time with same soil mix in same type of black nursery pot.

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jswett1100

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Could they maybe getting to be to hot? The leaves looked kinda curled in which usually shows that sign.
 

Diamondbuds

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DUDE... HARVEST! it's done flowering that's what happens to the plant once it's finished it's flowering cycle. If it were light burn or nute burn it would have shown its face much sooner than this. Cut that shit down NOW before it all starts to brown and the buds over ripen.
 

Diamondbuds

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I just looked at the pics AGAIN and that bitch is DONE, I'm sure of it. You can maybe let it go another week to 10 days, but this dying is actually a Nitrogen deficiency which happens to all mothers when they're ripe. Cut, trim, hang upside down in a dark- well ventilated room that holds about 70-80 deg. and enjoy token.
 

tranka32

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This is the only one out of 3 total in the tent that this happened to.
The other 2 are doing well and swelling up nicely.
I assumed that it was too close to the light, heated up and burnt.
I'm really wondering will it continue to grow, will the few caylx' that it has swell up? Or is this about as good as it will get?

"The back story is that right as week #4 was finishing I burnt the hell out of one of these plants. I don't know if it was the nutes or a combination of that and being too close to the lights but after their last feeding I think the more cindy leaning one started going down hill quick.
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Diamondbuds

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Always trying to help. And dont be discouraged that it finished before the others, something in that plant told it there is nothing left to keep growing for... unfortunately that something could be it being pollinated, or it could just be the conditions of the soil or available C02 etc.... SOMEthing told this plant to finish sooner than the others and that DOES happen sometimes. Looks like really nice bud tho man, Great job- especially for a first time!
 

tranka32

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I'm not in super soil. I have been using X Nutrients on them. I just got some bloom FX last week. As a matter of fact I fed with it right before this happened. The other two plants another DQ but totally different expression. It is a packed with calyx and trichromes. Has a very low leaf to calyx ration, is a stretcher and displays major side branching. If you lay this one on it's side it would be a scrogger for sure. Here are a few pictures of that one. The last in flower is a lanky but sturdy and very trainable sour kush from a plant that went herm on a friend of a local caregiver. The medication was phenomenal, very heady thought provoking with a fine pain killing quality. Many times I found myself in the kitchen or downstairs scratching my head and retracing my steps as I knocked out 20 odd jobs around the house. I germinated 7 seeds in late February of this year. Five survived and out of those this is my only keeper. The others were stunted and experiencing some type of lockout or just overall poor health. They were eliminated as I went. I actually had two keepers but the other was just not tough enough and wasn't very trainable. It got the cut just prior to going into flower.

Oh back to what I was saying. Since I used nutes on it I want to try to flush it a little before giving it the cut, trim and hang. I ran a flushing solution through it tonight and will run water through in a few days if everything still looks decent. I am blasting it with a couple of small fans and have it far away from the light so it won't burn anymore than it has. it still looks nice and dank inside not moldy or especially damp. I would say it's more Dank than damp anyway. I started another thread over in the plant problems area just to see if anyone else wanted to throw out an opinion. I'm a nerd so figured I would ask in this forum first. ;-)

Other DQ pheno cheese?
Same as last
Sour Kush
L to R Sour Kush, DQ #1 (still healthy)and DQ #2 that is finished
This is a good photo showing how the DQ looked prior to this week.


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Diamondbuds

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Another tip for ya, and something i use consistently. When you flush for your last 10-ish days of flowering before harvest, flush using ice cold water (not with ice in it, just really cold). What this does is shocks the plant's roots, tricking the plant into thinking it is becoming winter. The plant will put all of it's remaining energy into making it's buds as appealing as possible (to attract pollinators so it can seed before dying). It seems to speed up the last minute ripening process as well as put on a good bit of weight to the buds. However, if the plant has already been pollinated, this will do nothing of course.
 

Mason Jar 92705

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Watering ur plants with ice cold water so they think it's winter. First time hearing this one. Curious what other's thoughts on it or tried it.
Another tip for ya, and something i use consistently. When you flush for your last 10-ish days of flowering before harvest, flush using ice cold water (not with ice in it, just really cold). What this does is shocks the plant's roots, tricking the plant into thinking it is becoming winter. The plant will put all of it's remaining energy into making it's buds as appealing as possible (to attract pollinators so it can seed before dying). It seems to speed up the last minute ripening process as well as put on a good bit of weight to the buds. However, if the plant has already been pollinated, this will do nothing of course.
 

geekmike

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just checked this thread out, I have 4 DQ phenos going and have grown cheese many times before. As I expected the cheese dominant phenos are (like the cheese) very succeptable to nutrient burn and they also get root bound easily.

The SQ phenos however take the nutes a bit better.

Hope that helps, I use super soil and run a 20% SS mix for my cheese and top feed at 4 weeks.
 

tranka32

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Hey Geekmike, can you tell by the photos what phenotypes I am working with? I have many more pictures I could upload if needed. Cause I have no idea what I've got. Good to know about the cold water routine. Thanks for all the input, it is really appreciated.

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bowsa

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does some dq stink like skunk that will be what i look for supper stinky skunk have a ten pack will start them feb 2013 i do have a rockster chesse that i favor write now smells real sweet fruity have a vortex that smells like jack heare dont think iam very fond of the smell i will be keeping up on this thread this and geemikes
 

tranka32

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Those last 2 photos are of a real Stanker! It's my favorite out of the two different phenos that I have. The smaller, sweeter smelling pheno is the one that finished first and took me by surprise. Thanks for your input bowsa.
 

geekmike

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hard to say "what pheno" because every plant has it's variations, none are exactly alike although we can come very close. I just stick to parental leaning and smell when labeling phenos.

Everyone's keeper is different too. It's going to be a hard choice with my DQs because they are all so nice but the parental variation is obvious. Cant wait to try them all back to back.
 

tranka32

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I'm loving this Stank Skunky smelling one with the big swelling calyx' and low leaf ratio. I am guessing this would be the exodus cheese? The sweet rotten pineapple smelling, fluffy low calyx to leaf ratio must come from the cindy 99. I have read conflicting information that DQ is exodus and cindy 99. Other information says that it is exodus cheese and space queen / space dude. Does anyone know which description is correct? Thanks T.
 

missnu

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I just looked at the pics AGAIN and that bitch is DONE, I'm sure of it. You can maybe let it go another week to 10 days, but this dying is actually a Nitrogen deficiency which happens to all mothers when they're ripe. Cut, trim, hang upside down in a dark- well ventilated room that holds about 70-80 deg. and enjoy token.

This is totally not true...the yellowing you look for at the end is a gradual yellow lifelessness that moves up the plant from the older leaves to the next oldest, so on and so forth...
This is not the usual end of harvest appearance...this is a terribly nute burnt plant...but there is nothing left to really recover so, I would just harvest now as the plant will not get better, and only worse.
 

missnu

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Watering ur plants with ice cold water so they think it's winter. First time hearing this one. Curious what other's thoughts on it or tried it.
I have heard of people doing this to try and make purple strains more purple..just because cold temps bring out purple in plants.
 
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