Travis9226
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Really quick, can anyone here in Michigan work at a dispensarary, I know that's spelled wrong, or do u need to be a patient or a care giver.
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Damianh777
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i am a grower in mi. it is illegal to have a dispensary (spelling?) you are only allowed to have your 5 patients +yourself. you can however trade at "cost " your xtra weed to others that are allowed to use. cost is determined by the grower but you are not allowed to sell it to anyone in a for profit capasity. but the trading is the gray area. there were a few disp in detroit that were quickly shut down.
DaleRoberts
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Why even take the risk...Just stay stealthy!
fourtwentychat
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Would you say that despite there being no clear law regarding whether or not dispensaries/clinics/collectives (all same thing?) are legal, that they are still prevalent?
I thought for Michigan it was 6 patients plus yourself (growing for 7 persons total); am I wrong?
rasputin71
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Yes, you are wrong. It is 5 patients in addition to yourself, for a total of 72 plants.
fourtwentychat
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Thanks for the correction. I've been in error for quite a while, thinking that it was 84 (usually I'm less careless).
Damianh777
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also remember in mi you are allowed to trade at cost your xtra. i grow 50 plants outside and 25 in a prepetual grow and harvest about 60lbs annualy and legally collectives are not legal here most ppl belong to a compassion club and trade at weekly meetings
Damianh777
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also there is a clear law that there will be no dispensaries at least till the law changes mi was more interested in keeping little guys in business and so you can only provide in the 2 ways said previously 5 patients or trading xtra to other caregivers
Kruzty
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Most compassion club dont allow anything like trades or meds at open meetings. You are not allowed under current law to give anyone your meds besides YOUR PATIENTS, period........................ Patient to patient transfers are still a heated gray area and have yet to hit the courts for a ruling. Most prosecutors I've spoken with will bust ya if ya think you can just trade with anyone for profit or not. No where in our law does it state you can trade with or without charging someone and this does not matter. For profit or not your not allowed under current law to do this.I cant say this enough, gray ares of this law will get ya in court and being our law is the same a Rhode Island and being they had to amend that law to allow trades like this, then I'd be dam careful about doing this yet.Stay legal and stay safe.... You should be more careful on telling folks they can do this as it very well my get them busted. Read the law folks and know it well.
here is a ruling from isabella county on p-p transfer
this court finds that the patient-to-patient transfers and deliveries of marihuana between registered qualifying patients falls soundly within the medical use of marihuana as defined by the MMMA. This court also finds that because the Legislature provided the presumption of medical use of marihuana in MCL 333.26424(d), it intended to permit such patient-to-patient transfers and deliveries of marihuana between registered qualifying patients in order for registered qualifying patients to acquire permissible medical marihuana to alleviate their debilitating medical conditions and their respective symptoms. Essentially, defendants assist with the administration and usage of medical marihuana, which the Legislature permits under the MMMA." (See Page 7 of the attached Isabella County Opinion and Order
this court finds that the patient-to-patient transfers and deliveries of marihuana between registered qualifying patients falls soundly within the medical use of marihuana as defined by the MMMA. This court also finds that because the Legislature provided the presumption of medical use of marihuana in MCL 333.26424(d), it intended to permit such patient-to-patient transfers and deliveries of marihuana between registered qualifying patients in order for registered qualifying patients to acquire permissible medical marihuana to alleviate their debilitating medical conditions and their respective symptoms. Essentially, defendants assist with the administration and usage of medical marihuana, which the Legislature permits under the MMMA." (See Page 7 of the attached Isabella County Opinion and Order
Kruzty
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Yes saw that but does not effect the whole state yet. Is a great push in the right direction. Times they are a change'in
Kruzty
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Yes you can have only 5 patients and1 for yourself if your a patient..You can grow as a patient, caregiver a total of 72 plants. 60 for your patients and 12 for yourself. Include un-rooted clone too as this has yet to be ruled on in the courts.Some county count them and some don't
rzza
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guys like you are the reason i dont open up any of these wack ass threads anymore.
fourtwentychat
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Probably a bit harsh, but I could see myself getting a bit jaded (with respect to this kind of topic) after a while too. Now, as a newbie to this topic (someone currently doing research), it is extremely frustrating that there are so many different answers to the same (or similiar) questions.
I don't understand if it is simple naivete on my part or just a lack of familiarity with politics and "how things really work," but I just don't understand how laws can be written with such ambiguity; Honestly, I would expect "experts" to write clear laws, which could then be followed by anyone. Yet, I'm still unsure about simple topics, such as whether or not clones and *whole* drying plants are considered as part of the allotted 12. And I'm still unclear about any maximum weights with respect to "unusable medication" (drying or even jarred medicine, which has yet to be cured for the desired or needed amount of time).
That said, I'm beginning to think the best way to stay legal (in growing) is to never have whole harvested plants drying at the same time as the new clones being rooted. This appears to be easiest method to separate gray zones. That is, clones should always be taken *after* all plants have dried and are in their respective jars:
1) 6 Vegging, 6 Flowering or
2) 6 Vegging, 6 Drying or
3) 6 Cloning, 6 Flowering
In all cases, there will unambiguously be 12 plants. The only negative aspect of this would be the extended 1 week harvest cycle time (to dry).
With staying legal (in business), I just have no idea, and I'm still trying to desipher between: Collective, Clinic, Dispensary, and Compassion Club lol.
fourtwentychat
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I think you Michigan guys are great honestly. The MI boards are
fantastic from what I've seen.
fantastic from what I've seen.
Kruzty
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too harsh? damn and you quoted me now i cant change my words around
is naivete a word? lol
