Quick LST question +Rep

Ok guys im about to begin LST training on both my plants (LSD, BLZ BUD) nd i was just woundering if LST really does double ur overall yield.. i have a 250w mh/hps light using FF big bloom,

i know there are soo many variables but i was hoping someone with lst exp. can drop some knowledge on lst yields vs. non-lst

i plan on veg for a month 1/2

happy toking

what it does is gives you an even canopy ,so yea more budsites=more buds

not an expert but LST is showing promise in my current grow. Totaly recomment you match it up with FIM. This makes for a wonderful plant usualy!


View attachment 1273300 See those lower branches would not have been in the light without LST, thats the magic here you expose the branches to light! That gices more bud cites and more tops! making more yield!!!


LST in a nut shell

correct - go for it, making a hell of a difference in growth of mine, first time i have done it lovely evenly spaced bud sitel with max light penetration

I have done side by side experiments with my clones and have found that the yield is better with LST but certainly not double. It is another way to do things depending on your situation. We are not all growing with 1000 watt lights and it becomes a matter of light penetration for someone like me that uses a 400 watt light. Usually LST plants have smaller colas, but more of them.

I wouldnt say it doubles your yield.

Thnx every1!!! ill definately try LST

personally i prefer topping. the yeilds are not really that different for me between lst and topping, but i find i get more medium sized colas from topping. if you are interested, you can top one, lst another and fim the third. that way you can see whicch method fits your growing style and setup. gl with your gro bro.

LST creates more flowering sites which will increase yield but also use some type of silica

my first grow i did it an man next yr im going to do it to all my plants makes so much sence when you think about it

4-way LST till end.I think it is superior method because with 4-way you are actually doubling at begining(thats 2) then doing 4 LST(that is 2x4=then you are toping again(thats 2x8=16)and you lst again and that is like 16xalot cause you dont get 2 tops from LST you get up to 30 tops from just LST-ing your main cola.So imagine toping then lsting then toping again and lsting once more

I started LST right when I got my clones. My question now is:

At what point do I let the plants up to stretch a little bit, or am I supposed to leave them tied down?
My bottoms have reached higher then my top already..

You may be better off topping and then LST all the branches. The trick with LST is to try to keep the plant branches tied down and flat until about half way through bloom and then just let all those bud sites fatten up.

Also if you over stress your plant it's going to use valuable energy repairing itself. So when you bend branches and tie them down do it very gently man. You don't want to split branches it costs you bud in the end.

Best to bend the branches early when they are really soft. I like to do adjustments about twice a week.

Rock on dude.

Buddy Ganga said:

I started LST right when I got my clones. My question now is:

At what point do I let the plants up to stretch a little bit, or am I supposed to leave them tied down?
My bottoms have reached higher then my top already..

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Do you leave them tied down the entire time?

Yeas you do.

LST Low Stress Training

Well here we go, LST (Low Stress Training) the ultimate way to maximize your yield. It is important to start your grow with high potency marijuana seeds genetics, with LST you can even go for tall sativa cannabis seeds strains.
Before we begin lets get some knowledge on what you will be looking at:
Light Brown: Pot Outline
Green thick Lines: Main Stem
Small Thin Lines with Green Balls on top: Fan leafs
Yellow Lines: Side Branches
Red: Tiedown Metal Hooks (or thread whichever item you use, i use Hooks - it's easier)
The Text in the box: First digit is Step No. and Second Digit is Pot Size, below the numbers is the type of view your looking at (either from the SIDE or from the TOP)

STEP 1: Grow your plant from a potent marijuana seeds strain of choice to 3 or 4 leaf sets, some use 5 but i always use 3 because after 3rd leaf set the main stem starts to harden and it will be harder to bend over your plant properly without breaking the main stem.
STEP 2: Using a metal hook (i cut small sections of cloths hanger and bend a U shape at the end as a hook) bend over your plant with metal hook at the last internode (space between the last set of fanleafs and the next to last) and stick the metal hook into your dirt to hold down the stem.
STEP 3: This is really not a step, just waiting time... Take note of how the top of the plant that was bent down will bend back upwards towards the light, this could take anywhere from 3 hours to 1 day. Under my 1000 Watt Metal Halide light it does it in under 3 hours.
STEP 4: Veg and dont tie down until you have a new leaf set. You will notice Side branching has started already because good light is getting to the main stem areas next to each fanleaf stem intersection with the main stem.
STEP 5: Depending on your starting pot size you may have to transplant. If you started out with a large pot, repeat step 2 over and over again holding the main stem down with hooks until you reach the end of the pot. In this illustration to save time and drawings, i started out with a small pot and it reached the end of the pot after the first tiedown. I repotted it into a 10 inch pot which will be my final pot size for this plant in order for me to continue the LST Bends around the inside edge of the pot.
STEP 6: Now that your new leaf set has formed you have enough length in growth since the first bend(s) to allow you to start bending the stem horizontally around the inside edge of the pot. Use metal hooks again to keep this bend in place. Side branches should be coming along very nicely. Sativa cannabis seeds strains grow faster and produce more stems, indica marijuana seeds varieties will grow half as much.
STEP 7: Continue repeating steps 4 and 6, allowing the plant to grow and then keep tieing it down along the inside edge of pot using metal hooks (or whatever your using) Side branches should be forming and growing up towards the light.
STEP 8: Continue to repeat step 7 until you are all the way around the pot... when you reach the point where your plant first met the edge of the plant Top the plant (cut off the very top of the plant) and hold it down horizontally with a metal hook... During all this time of repeating step 7 you should also be tieing down horizontally the new branches that have formed from the main stem as much as possible until you use up as much space as possible inside the pot as well , the outter branches growing over the outside edge of the pot you can hold down as well with string to keep those tops even with the inner branches.
STEP 9: After you have used up all possible space inside the pot (or your eggcrate) its time to just let it flower.. This is a side view of how it will and should look by that time with all the side branches growing upwards towards the light... these will all become Collas unlike a non LST plant will only have one colla.
During flowering and even before due to lack of light on the main stem fan leafs which is all the way to the bottom almost against the soil those fanleafs will die off anyways, i usually cut these off the main stem right after the branch has grown out in that area, keeps things neat down below where you will need good airflow during flowering.. so go ahead and take off any fanleafs coming off the main stem that is going around the inside edge of the pot.
Set your timer to 12/12 and watch it bloom. There is no Step 10 in the picture but we all know what that is HARVEST!!!
Sativa indica hybrids or sativa marijuana seeds strains are suitable for LST as they grow fast and low stress training helps to control their height. Choose a potent, high yielding cannabis seeds variety for LST!
This is how i do it hope it helps you!!

Jonnyfire said:

Ok guys im about to begin LST training on both my plants (LSD, BLZ BUD) nd i was just woundering if LST really does double ur overall yield.. i have a 250w mh/hps light using FF big bloom,

i know there are soo many variables but i was hoping someone with lst exp. can drop some knowledge on lst yields vs. non-lst

i plan on veg for a month 1/2

happy toking

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put it this way...

i've only done minor lst on my plants (first time ive done any lst at all) and the difference is already noticable...if you're interested pm me and ill send you a link to a youtube video of my grow in flower...the strain is white berry from paradise seeds...

thats not important as lst can be done on any plant...sativa, indica, etc...it doesnt matter.

since i did minor lst wat i decided to do was take my 2 tops on each plant (i topped each plant for 2 tops however one ended up with 3 for some reason) and pull them away from each other (like you would to break a wishbone) and tie them down...this opened up the entire middle of the plant and now the middle of my plants are filled with budsites.

i strongly suggest super cropping during the veg stage as well as lst...since you're vegging for a month and a half you should also top or fim (topping may be easier if you've never done either before). i only vegged my white berrys for 29 days and was able to lst, super crop, and top one time...

if you veg for 1 1/2 months you should be able to top twice (mattering on how fast your plant grows).

by topping/supercropping/lst you will make your plant turn into a bush instead of a christmas tree.

the reason why lst improves yield is because it helps eliminate the "popcorn" buds usually found at the bottom of the plant where the least amount of light is...you can also remove the very bottom growth of your plant during veg to promote bigger buds on the rest of the plant.

lst is worth your time...you'll see the difference almost immediately during flowering as your number of budsites will grow and the popcorn buds will be far fewer (or eliminated all together).

you can lst with anything really...string, ribbon (thats what i had to use), pipe cleaners, etc.

my advice is to bend the plant slowly over a period of time (a few hrs or so) to tie down large/thick branches (be careful not to break them).

however if you do break a branch as long as its not a complete break and you're in veg the plant should repair itself...if the break is bad get a piece of paper and roll it up (like its a joint/blunt) and wrap it around the break and use tape to hold it in place...check back in 3-4 days and you'll notice a knot in the spot where it broke)...which is super cropping basically...except when you supercrop you break the inside of the plant not the outside.

super cropping will promote more budsites as well as vigorous growth in general.

hope this helps.

I would not even try and bend big stocks you want to lst when your plant first starts you cant wait a long time then decide o ya lets lst you got to start from beginning no trying to bend big stocks never!!!

bigv1976 said:

Yeas you do.

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I let them up for a day and a half to stretch a little and I'm damn glad I did.
The plant wasn't spreading out and all the beautiful growth was starting to block newer sites.

Now that it stretched out and I've retied them they are booming again and light is once again hitting 90% of the plant.

This is a Lemon G a three weeks into veg with slt statred from the begining. It's blown up since this pic was taken.