quick q!

joebaze

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my plants are about 3 -4 weeks in flowering n its taking WAAAAAAAY too long for it to form =(

besides more light n nutes,
any other methods to help it fill out?!?!?
 

Lennard

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Hey bro here to help you for sure, however do you realize you gave us no info as to what your setup is like? Dont use molasses in a DWC setup its too thick and fucks up the pumps, roots (IMO) and draws a lot of slime of some sort. If you do use it. Realize it ups your PPM level hugely. I would only use it in small amounts and toward the last few weeks right before you flush.
 

joebaze

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haha srry!
i had a grow journal up bt junked it..
my setup is a small 2sq ft by 2 3/4 high(fuckin small!)
got 4 plants left in small pots in soil... 1 in dwc mode.
theyre budding, but veeeeeerry slooowly!!
my lack of funds has gotten me only 2 cfl's to work with..
wich is probably the reason for their small progress...
theyre maybe 3 weeks into budding n theyre still forming only!
i have extra lightbulbs but not enough sockets!!!
oh n i know were to get free 150watt hps systems, but nobody is down to help me get it!
haha
ill have pics of it probably tomorrow so u peeps can diagnose my condition..
this is my first indoor n hopefully my first personal harvest!
my last plant was jacked :(

on another note:
thanks for the wisdom lennard!
i was thinking of putting molasses in my dwc bt wasnt sure if it would fuck up!
oh yeah n i only found honney so far...would that work??
my uncle told me that my dad used to use it on his shit!
n i tot what the hell!
got it for free anyways!!!
i call it "protesting the economy"!
haha
 

spazstic

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No buds are forming because you are using CFLs. You can get by with CFLs during your veg cycle, but you need a larger light for flowering. Taking the plants outside 12 hours a day would be better if you can do so without getting caught, and you can't afford a HPS. Just put them in a completely dark area for the other 12 hours. Good luck man. :D
 

joebaze

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No buds are forming because you are using CFLs
i would disagree with this...
im no expert, but i know cfl's have the potential!
im just not using enough...

Taking the plants outside 12 hours a day would be better if you can do so without getting caught
this is my problem!
i cant be constantly taking them out of my room!

and you can't afford a HPS.
who said i would buy them
:grin:
muahahahahaha!!!
 

joebaze

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oh yeah i have another question...
where i live, there is 12 hours of sunlight year round!!!
and most outdoor grows ive seen takes 4-6 months!
does this mean that my strains need even less light???
8/16???
haha
 

Lennard

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I believe if you are equator living (and using natural sun only) you need autoflowering strains. Ive never ddealt with that though. Two CFLs is really hurting you man. You need as many 2700k "warm whites" as you can get your hands on. Home depot places like that have "Y" splitters that will split one light recepticle into two. Ive never "Y'd" and then "Y'd" again for three recepticle so I dontknow if it works but yea off that but ive never done it as Ive ripped apart old lamps for cordsets and such. I used 2) 200 watt Warm white CFLS for my first grow (NOT 200 watt COMPARABLE) (Speaking of that you always want to count CFL wattage being used as the low number NOT the "comparable to"). the grow medium was DWC and I got 51 grams of good sticky bud. Granted that shiney free 150 watt HPS would give you a massive change in growth larger buds and yeild. I have a 600 watt HPS now and wish I would have put the $300 in CFL Lighting (Used 325 watts of "cool white" hydro farm for veg $150 and two Warm whites at $75 a pc) instead into my HPS lighting which I got a aircooled hood, bulb, lumatek digi bal and all for $300 shipped Now im hoping for 2oz a plant.

Another note. You will need to make that box bigger if you go hps, I would bet with just your couple of cfls you have a heat issue. Also ride those cfls right over the tops of the plants the best you can. If I recall I remember the cool whites being able to have the leafs actually touch them but if they are hot to your skin you bet your ass they are way to hot for the plant so observe carefully.

pictures are nice as well my friend

Good luck
 

joebaze

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haha dude im not sure what strain of seeds im dealin with..
i juss got themfrom friends! doubt theyre autoflowering because i vegd them for like a month n a half...

yeah ive been looking for the y connectors, but ive found something better!
its an adapter that gives you a socket n twoextra plugs...
i can get that n get the socket thingys that plug directly into a socket...
3 bulbs in one socket :)
the prob is the hardware store i saw it at is far from my hse....
n they got cameras so its a lil harder for me to do my protesting of the economy...haha
oh n i dnt really have a prob with getting bulbs...my mom has 23w 2700k all over the house!!!
n theres my next prob!!!
i have my plants like 1 inch from the bulb n they still grow into the light!
ive experimented with different distances but they still keep climbing!
i even have them in really small pots...
any suggestions on keeping them small without supercropping,cutting, or training??
all i know is to use chicken wire to stop them...
oh n the box i have.....is the only resort...
i chose it because it was the most discreet n the biggest that could fit n not be noticeable in my closet..
i saw someone use a trashcan for a single plant!
it looked like a winner....
see my moms is veeeeeeeeeeeeeery nosy!the last spot id expect her to go, is the first spot id see her in!
oh n no real heat issue...
air cond room 24/7, pc fan, happy plants!!!
but i noticed that my plants did better without fresh air in the box...
idk why!!??!!?
 
if you dont want your plants to stretch then why are you using small pots?

use a bigger pot.

Root bound plant = stretcy! i think... lol

also it might just be the strain you have.
 

CANinBIZ

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if you dont want your plants to stretch then why are you using small pots?

use a bigger pot.

Root bound plant = stretcy! i think... lol

also it might just be the strain you have.
Streching is caused by the light being to far and there isint enough light to grow fat buds.
 

joebaze

Well-Known Member
haha i used small pots because i have little room to work with..
n i tot it was small pots get small plants?!?!?
less growing space for roots stunts the plant right??
 

olosto

New Member
Do a search for cfl grow journal so see what other people have done and decide for yourself. You will learn alot and not have so many questions :)
 

joebaze

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haha no shit right :)
thanks!!!

oh n back to molasses tho!!!
i found some grandma's..
n i also found some shit with a rabbit on it!
it has like 5x the calcium, iron, n magnesium as grandmas!!!
is this good or bad??!?
 

Lennard

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Molasses isnt going to get you anywhere near what your looking for.. The plant itself you did a great job with it looks green and healthy but if I read right and that baby is 30 days into flower no matter what lighting you get I think it will still not be enough time to rejuvinate into a nug growing monster. Now by no means am I saying to give up and scrap the project you will still get a few nugs to smoke on. yes the more CFLs you can get in there the better for now still I would say.

Also, one key rule to keep in mind. The roots have a direct impact on the size of the canopy. Small pots = Small plants, Big pots = Big plants.

Theres a ton of math to do in this game but it all adds up so (IMO) you got to spend a little before you start and unfortunetly the bigger the nugs desired, the bigger the lights (and pots) need to be think of it as an investment. $300 dollars on a HPS setup is minor in comparison to the yeild difference you will see.

Good luck feel free to ask ?'s
 

joebaze

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reals???
well i juss put in 3 extra lights n supercropped the tall mofos...
i know molasses wont do much, but it would still do a lil good...
hopefully my krypto in dwc will be a winner since its still 3 weeks in from sprout!
im thinking of trashing my box n use a trashcan next!
oh yeah n ive seen pretty fat n compact buds from a beer cup!!!
that dudes plant was bangin!!

thanks for all thee advice!
 

joebaze

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daaaaaaaaaaaaamn!!
i juss checked my plants to keep up wit my clones, and when i saw the plants, they were fuckin icy!!!
and theyre getting fatter!!!
i'd say that the molasses kicks ass!!!
2 days of that shit n my plants threw out thc!!!
hopefully itll be ready in 2 weeks!
p.s. sorry no pics...
camera sucks ass!
 
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