Quick Way to Raise Ph?

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PeaceFarmer

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olylifter420 said:
im not trying to hijack this thread, but since its on ph and my ph is a bit off as well, the ph in my 5 gallon pot is at a 5.5 and the plant looks to be exhibiting some nute burn.

i used jiffy organic potting mix plus with a few Dr. Earth organic soil amendments,
1/2 cup of each
bud and bloom booster 3-15-2
polyp bulb food 4-10-7
transplant fertilizer 2-4-2

10qts perlite
2tbsp bat guano 10-3-1
MG organic bone meal 6-9-0.

again, i dont mean to jack anyones thread, i understand if it is out of line.

thanks to all who reply
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Do you have a EC or PPM meter? If you did you could check the nute amount before you add it. You can find them for about 40-50 bucks on eBay. Are you growing inside? Of so what is the temp just above your plants?
 
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olylifter420

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PeaceFarmer said:
Do you have a EC or PPM meter? If you did you could check the nute amount before you add it. You can find them for about 40-50 bucks on eBay. Are you growing inside? Of so what is the temp just above your plants?
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No, i dont have an EC or PPM device. I need to get one though. I take em out at 7am so they can bask in the sun all day till 8 pm, then inside till 2 am under 3 26w 6500k cfl's. I know that seem like nothing, but it is only one plant and it has been doing great under them. and the temp above the plant is at around 82 * F and 36 % humidity.
 
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Rj41

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olylifter420 said:
im not trying to hijack this thread, but since its on ph and my ph is a bit off as well, the ph in my 5 gallon pot is at a 5.5 and the plant looks to be exhibiting some nute burn.

i used jiffy organic potting mix plus with a few Dr. Earth organic soil amendments,
1/2 cup of each
bud and bloom booster 3-15-2
polyp bulb food 4-10-7
transplant fertilizer 2-4-2

10qts perlite
2tbsp bat guano 10-3-1
MG organic bone meal 6-9-0.

again, i dont mean to jack anyones thread, i understand if it is out of line.

thanks to all who reply
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Is there room in the pot still to mix some in the soil? Of not, go light on your water mix, and raise it gradually.
It's not good to do a drastic change to ph levels.
 
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Rj41

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EC and PPM meters aren't relevant to the topic, and are mainly used in hydro/airponics type grows to monitor solution strengths in the reservoirs.
 
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BlackPeter

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Rj41 said:
Whatcha thinking? Low ph causing mag lockout?
Looks right... good call

1 tablespoon per gallon is what most people go by.
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'tis indeed what I was thinking sir. I'd like to do the feeding and the baking soda in conjunction with eachother. Wouldn't be too much for the plant, would it?
 
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PeaceFarmer

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Rj41 said:
EC and PPM meters aren't relevant to the topic, and are mainly used in hydro/airponics type grows to monitor solution strengths in the reservoirs.
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If you look at any good nute companies feeding charts, you can see that they do indeed provide EC and PPM values for you to achieve before adding to soil. I know that the soil buffers a lot, but a good PPM meter is essential for growing any good plant.
 
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olylifter420

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Thanks, +rep!
No, its at 1in below the rim of the pot. I dont use a water fertilizer if thats what you mean with "water mix." I decided to try out Dr. earths organic stuff since they seemed rich with all that is recommended on here for organic super soil all the meals, some guanos, and a lot of beneficial microbes and bacteria. I thought that mix could get me through flowering without using any liquid ferts. What do you think?

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Rj41 said:
Is there room in the pot still to mix some in the soil? Of not, go light on your water mix, and raise it gradually.
It's not good to do a drastic change to ph levels.
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Rj41

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BlackPeter said:
'tis indeed what I was thinking sir. I'd like to do the feeding and the baking soda in conjunction with eachother. Wouldn't be too much for the plant, would it?
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That's kind of a gray area for me as to if it's good or harmful. All I can tell you is that I've done it with no ill side effects.
 
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Rj41

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PeaceFarmer said:
If you look at any good nute companies feeding charts, you can see that they do indeed provide EC and PPM values for you to achieve before adding to soil. I know that the soil buffers a lot, but a good PPM meter is essential for growing any good plant.
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You're correct. I started to edit my post and add that some people do use them for just that but I got sidetracked.

The every-day person usually doesn't have a need though.
 
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Rj41

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olylifter420 said:
Thanks, +rep!
No, its at 1in below the rim of the pot. I dont use a water fertilizer if thats what you mean with "water mix." I decided to try out Dr. earths organic stuff since they seemed rich with all that is recommended on here for organic super soil all the meals, some guanos, and a lot of beneficial microbes and bacteria. I thought that mix could get me through flowering without using any liquid ferts. What do you think?

Thanks
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I'm into organics too.
By water mix, I meant 1 tablespoon of baking soda per gallon of water that you water your plants with. This way it'll slowly raise the ph back up.

With a good healthy living soil, going all the way with no additional fertilizer is easily achievable.
Gotta get that ph back in line first though.
 
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olylifter420

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Hey Rj, say a ww seed sprouted and it is going straight into 12/12, can I place it in the same 5 gallon pot say a 26 day ww is in already?

Thanks
 
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PeaceFarmer

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Rj41 said:
You're correct. I started to edit my post and add that some people do use them for just that but I got sidetracked.

The every-day person usually doesn't have a need though.
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Yeah, The every day person doesnt usually have a need for it, but if someone is having problems maintaining ph/nute concentration by just measuring them out, then they may benefit quickly by simply using a $40 meter. There for a min I thought you were dismissing my advice as bogus, when I was the first one to suggest baking soda. Also, some guys do use liquid ph up/down when they are pre adjusting the ph of the nute solution and water that they add to soil. I will agree with you it is mainly used in hydro/aero, but that doesnt mean that it is the only thing it can be used for. Anyway, just my two cent buddy.
 
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Rj41

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PeaceFarmer said:
Yeah, The every day person doesnt usually have a need for it, but if someone is having problems maintaining ph/nute concentration by just measuring them out, then they may benefit quickly by simply using a $40 meter. There for a min I thought you were dismissing my advice as bogus, when I was the first one to suggest baking soda. Also, some guys do use liquid ph up/down when they are pre adjusting the ph of the nute solution and water that they add to soil. I will agree with you it is mainly used in hydro/aero, but that doesnt mean that it is the only thing it can be used for. Anyway, just my two cent buddy.
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You're correct in all that you're saying.
No disrespect was meant.

When trying to answer forum questions though, one has to take into account the level at which the person asking the question is at.
One has to ask himself; is this a small basic grow with only a couple of plants or is this person ready to invest a bunch of money in in more high tech equipment.
I've found that a lot of people new to growing start out with a low budget setup and are seeking low/no budget answers.
 
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Rj41

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olylifter420 said:
Hey Rj, say a ww seed sprouted and it is going straight into 12/12, can I place it in the same 5 gallon pot say a 26 day ww is in already?

Thanks
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I'm sorry but I don't keep up on all the various strains/growth rates, etc.

It's usually inadvisable to have more than one plant in a single container, but I currently have 4 sativas in a 5 gallon pot that I'm doing an experiment on. As they grow, I'm twisting them around each other kind of making a plant sculpture. They won't be very productive plants because I'm trimming all the lower branches off, but hey, I'm having fun with them. And to me, that's what growing is all about.
 
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PeaceFarmer

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Rj41 said:
You're correct in all that you're saying.
No disrespect was meant.

When trying to answer forum questions though, one has to take into account the level at which the person asking the question is at.
One has to ask himself; is this a small basic grow with only a couple of plants or is this person ready to invest a bunch of money in in more high tech equipment.
I've found that a lot of people new to growing start out with a low budget setup and are seeking low/no budget answers.
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I feel ya. I guess I just thought if he was having problems with nutes that it would be the easiest (albeit not the cheapest) solution. I didn't think about cost (well a little, which is why I suggested na bicarb instead of some of the more expensive buffers that can be added to soil to help control/buffer rapid ph changes). Anyway, I'll try to keep my answers simple, thanks for the advice.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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cool, so then I will give it a try as well, also, do you think these high quality strains with good genetics grow a lot during flowering season?


QUOTE=Rj41;5692692]I'm sorry but I don't keep up on all the various strains/growth rates, etc.

It's usually inadvisable to have more than one plant in a single container, but I currently have 4 sativas in a 5 gallon pot that I'm doing an experiment on. As they grow, I'm twisting them around each other kind of making a plant sculpture. They won't be very productive plants because I'm trimming all the lower branches off, but hey, I'm having fun with them. And to me, that's what growing is all about.[/QUOTE]
 
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