Poeticorb
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Dorian beat the shit out of mine!
R2 weed
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nsguerilla
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So, you got the acadian one back? sounds like it's the real deal... if so, I'd love to get a cut.. could make a trade of Agent Orange, Sage'n'Sour, White Cookies or Endless Sky... in a couple months i'll have some bodhi gear, Black Rasberry and Forest Queen (strawberry milk x 88G13Hashplant)
Burnedman
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A friend of mine is holding the Acadian R2 cut i ran last year but i can get cuts in the early spring. And a trade could be cool. the 88g13hp sounds like its in my lane.
nsguerilla
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That would be awesome!! I'll have plenty of cuts from her by then, and that would be perfect timing.. looking to do an open pollination, probably with my R2x cookies n cream, to back cross and get decent r2 seeds, representative of the original... as much as I wish mine wasn't a cookie cross, I don't see much influence from it, seems pretty old world in structure, sticks to the palette, comes on strong and has good legs, super frosty.. kind of obsessed with this strain right now. lol
Burnedman
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I get it man. i have never stopped being obsessed with R2 since i first saw it. A few friends and i are working the most killer R we can find into a breeding trial too. I have a pakistan valley landrace that is shaping up to be a primo male. thats why i made some room in my garden over the winter.
nsguerilla
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Nice one.. I actually have a close friend who picked up some Pakistan Valley from an auction so It'd be cool to compare the lines once he grows those out. My R2 male was tall for the size pot I kept it in (5 gal. at most), with a very thick, hollow, resinous (sticky) stalk... Its lower branches stretched up to meet the somewhat flat canopy, giving it an upside down pyramid (or umbrella) shape. Wondering how that structure would compare to what you've experienced with the R.
Burnedman
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Pakistan valley are super kushy. like that real kush from back in the daisy before there were 35,000 different kush "strains". And R2 male? like from a seed? Although you can find a lot of opinions about this even just in this thread, the few people who know the strain well knows that the "R2" we are all creaming jeans about is a clone only plant thats been in the region since the mid 90's. Lots of hybrids around the region right now and most lean hard R making it really hard to tell. But the real old as fuck R2 (female clone) grows into a textbook pic perfect xmas tree structure.
nsguerilla
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Interesting, kush is something lacking in our shared library, just not a personal preference, but an older varietal is what i'd be looking for in that regard. ..and ya totally, he was a Cookies n Cream x R2, should've clarified that... I'm just looking to work that line back toward the R2, but in order to do so, need to know/experience more of what the true R2 is... hence, wanting that cutting from you
specifically, what i'm most interested in is figuring out if NL2 and Thai really are in the lineage, and working a couple lines in those directions. My plan is, for now, if I get that clone, to pollinate it with my most R2 male from my Ccr cross and back cross toward R2... Just to have something closely related/resembling the original R2, if ya catch my drift... and, good to know about the structure. I had a female that took on a more xmas tree shape, and was the one I selected for pollination, due to structure, smell, nodal spacing and vigor, however, she got ripped so I only ended up with the other two, with a short supply of seed.nsguerilla
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AK Bean Brains has freezeland (how he spells it) .. On JBCseeds, and he's a super reputable breeder with Old stock.
Burnedman
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If you want to breed R2 into a dominantly R2 seed line it wouldn't be hard but i would cut right to the point and self the R2. your resulting seeds will be 50% "full clone" feminized seeds. the other 50% (or 25%/25%) will resemble one or both of the parent strains of R2. If you backcross using a parent of the R2 you can get virtually identical progeny over a few generations of back crossing. And i guess nobody really knows for sure what R2 is but older dudes in Shediac used to sell it to us in high school calling it Northern lights. The guy who brought the first clone back to Sack in 1997 told me that they told him it was a 3 way cross, Afghani/Thai, and they kept the 3rd a secret for a long time, and that dude himself told me just this year that the 3rd parent was mighty mite...But still, R2 is a unicorn...who knows. its almost better a mystery.Interesting, kush is something lacking in our shared library, just not a personal preference, but an older varietal is what i'd be looking for in that regard. ..and ya totally, he was a Cookies n Cream x R2, should've clarified that... I'm just looking to work that line back toward the R2, but in order to do so, need to know/experience more of what the true R2 is... hence, wanting that cutting from you
The NL2 is kinda a unicorn itself. there is a lot to read about it online. Heres a cool link,
The origins of Northern Lights
Northern Lights is one of those legendary strains of which everyone has heard about at some time. Coming from Afghani genetics, it became one of the most used strains to create new varieties. Today, hundreds of different hybrids have been developed from the Nrothern Lights, what demonstrates its...
Kp sunshine
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If you're trying to find a male to do a back cross with, then use a strain that looks completely unlike R2. It would make finding A R2 male a little easier to spot. Getaway mountain has a R2 line they created, so you could use s male from that line also. Or do a S1 pollination like I plan to do.Interesting, kush is something lacking in our shared library, just not a personal preference, but an older varietal is what i'd be looking for in that regard. ..and ya totally, he was a Cookies n Cream x R2, should've clarified that... I'm just looking to work that line back toward the R2, but in order to do so, need to know/experience more of what the true R2 is... hence, wanting that cutting from you
Kp sunshine
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I can see mighty mite being used. R2 produces some semi-auto traits when out crossed. I have a R2 x Kushberry cross that has some semi autos in it, making great early finishing plants.If you want to breed R2 into a dominantly R2 seed line it wouldn't be hard but i would cut right to the point and self the R2. your resulting seeds will be 50% "full clone" feminized seeds. the other 50% (or 25%/25%) will resemble one or both of the parent strains of R2. If you backcross using a parent of the R2 you can get virtually identical progeny over a few generations of back crossing. And i guess nobody really knows for sure what R2 is but older dudes in Shediac used to sell it to us in high school calling it Northern lights. The guy who brought the first clone back to Sack in 1997 told me that they told him it was a 3 way cross, Afghani/Thai, and they kept the 3rd a secret for a long time, and that dude himself told me just this year that the 3rd parent was mighty mite...But still, R2 is a unicorn...who knows. its almost better a mystery.
The NL2 is kinda a unicorn itself. there is a lot to read about it online. Heres a cool link,
The origins of Northern Lights
Northern Lights is one of those legendary strains of which everyone has heard about at some time. Coming from Afghani genetics, it became one of the most used strains to create new varieties. Today, hundreds of different hybrids have been developed from the Nrothern Lights, what demonstrates its...www.alchimiaweb.com
Have lots left if anyone would like them. Not hard to find a nice male
Burnedman
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Interesting. A friend of mine once said he thought the "R" in R2 stands for ruderalis and the "2" stands for nl2...
Kp sunshine
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I'm not sure which company produced R2 but I know the Maritime Outdoor Growing Company in Emery's magazine had a R2 line but not sure if it's the same. I've read it's a afghani/haze cross but who knows.
southernguy99
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Hey Guys don't mean to change subject on you , but since a few of the eastern canadian guys are here , any of you guys have anything you want to sell or trade, looking for a good cookies or weeding cake ,GMO gelata 33,45 etc anything from seed junky or Cannarado. Pm me if interested and we'll go from there.
Mistic420
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Hey I’d love to try a few beans !?
The Dead Ribbits
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I'm interested in getting ahold of the r2 clone that was so common here through the oughts. Probably try my hand at backcrossing it until the seed is relatively reliably stable, enough that you could sell it by name and people will get what they're looking for a few times out of ten at least. I have the time so why not No plans on selling seeds or anything (though i dont see why not if I put the work in), I've just always been into the idea of breeding strains and not to overstate it or anything, but R2 is a legit and legendary part of the folk history unique to our time and place. ..be kindof a shame not to try and preserve it.
Burnedman
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Seems like the whole region is on this same page, I'm 3 years into my own R2 hunt. I had the very first R2 when it was a super protected clone only strain ya had to get from french guys and there weren't yet bastard R2 hybrids and femmed R2 seeds everywhere just being called R2. I have two leads on something i consider a highly credible specimen. First lead is a brand new seedline from a native reservation which seems like it's a femmed version of R2 but we have not sprouted enough to know for sure. Either way the cheeb i saw from these seeds last year was the nicest R2 i have seen in at least 10 years from anybody. The second lead i have is an R2 clone that i can actually trace back to a cutting i took from my original R2 which i got in 2005/6.
The Dead Ribbits
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Well those are probably more solid leads than I've got ATM...by alot, lol. I suppose I'll have to go out and talk to people if I want to findf out if they still have it or can get at it...I'm around the border/beausejour area, and have couple contacts towards p elgin to ask, as well as a couple peeps who grew it prolificly on the nova scotia side for a decade or more...
The time to get your hands on it was really 5-10 years ago I think...right about then the clone had reached it's peak proliferation and were basically available everywhere, which was kind of the beginning of the end II'm guessing..the original custodians grew bored and stopped guarding the strain greedily because it was everywhere and they moved on to other strains, hobbies, or lines of work, and everyone else just assumed somebody else would preserve it if they thought of it at all. Tradgedy of the commons, sorta like what were doing with the entire country...but i wont get started on that, lol.
The time to get your hands on it was really 5-10 years ago I think...right about then the clone had reached it's peak proliferation and were basically available everywhere, which was kind of the beginning of the end II'm guessing..the original custodians grew bored and stopped guarding the strain greedily because it was everywhere and they moved on to other strains, hobbies, or lines of work, and everyone else just assumed somebody else would preserve it if they thought of it at all. Tradgedy of the commons, sorta like what were doing with the entire country...but i wont get started on that, lol.
Burnedman
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yea thats pretty much the short form of the story. once the cut went from the acadian coast to the english communities it became a commercial crop and its fate was sealed. And the few guys who used to grow a hand full of 1000 plant sites every year never grew it to top notch and they had the maritime outty market pretty well in the bag with that cheap ass lesser then R2 shit. it turned a lot of people off to the strain and to outdoor in general.