RAIDED!! EVERYTHING CLOSED! WHAT HAPPENED!

Dr. Who

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Several have asked for the "what happened". I shall fill in some blanks.

On feb 26th, my oldest son Petr (not a misspelling) and I had left early to run up to Kalkaska to fish with some friends who had invited us up for a cpl of days. I got to about Howard city and got a call from my other son. He said there were Detectives from Wmet calling from a grow and wanted me to come out to open the door for a "compliance check". he told them I was off to a fishing trip and not back till Sunday. They asked if he would come out and open the building up. He refused stating he "was not yet 18 and had nothing to do with that or had access to do what they requested. They said ok and asked for my mobile #. He refused and refused access to my home.

At about that time my phone gave the incoming call tones and I said I would call him back. The new call was one of the shops calling to say they were being raided as we spoke. They were taking all product and cash and telling them to lock up and leave when they were done. They stated that XXXXX was being given a notice to appear on a delivery charge (It was her calling me). She stated that she was going to comply as I had taught them to and that she was letting me know hat happened. As we were talking about how I would cover her with legal representation and.....The call coming in tone hit again and I gave XXXXX the assurance that I would call her back asap and answered again. Shop 2 calling with the same info! This time the employee had more experience with this issue and was quite cool. he called to just let me know what was going on. He asked if i would be covering the legal needs of the other guy there as they actually took him to jail for obstruction/hindering
as he would not open the door for them until XXX (caller) finished in the client lounge with a customer (They did no more then look at the customers card as she left). I said "You bet" and hung up to call back home to Michail.

The phone rings again! It's the wife at work. She say's she has just spoken to the "Fuck'in asshole wmet detective" about coming home and opening that building and the others on XXXth street too! She said there was no way she would leave and endanger her job, especially now (she knew this would be a BIG hit to our income) !

The call coming in sound hits again. Wife says she gave them my mobile as they were threatening all sorts of shit and she told them it's me you need to talk too...I answered and it's him. Long story short he threatens to get a warrant for both buildings of inquiry, along with every other building on our property. I say "Hey, I'm going fishing and I'm way the hell North. Wait till Monday and I'll open up." Noway that was going to work but, I wanted to stall and it was worth a try.

We went back and forth and left it at I was going North. thing was that weighed heavy on my mind as the cost of the security door systems they would destroy to get in would effect the buildings structure too...So turn around I did and thought I would do a pass by to see what was going on anyway...

LOL, they had down every car we owned, every color, etc, etc. Because as I drove by they (2 unmarked and 2 patrol vehicles pulled out from the lot and sped after us, lights rolling.....I pulled over and they came up saying we had better got back to the lot at the op. I had to ride with the detective (They had not seen anything yet and answered I was not under arrest but, had better ride with them for "safety") and Petr drove my truck back.

The other det. who had left to secure the warrant in a face to face with a judge was called and we sat there while I was given the 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree.....I said nothing except that I would open the door and wanted my lawyer present to answer any questions.

I opened the door, and they did there search. I was informed that I was over on #'s and they would take everything (plant wise - they said they would not touch the equipment due to it being wired into the "attic" space and felt unsafe touching anything up there....(Whew, that was close)...I said that's not possible as the plants in pots are actually 2 plants under. He said that 44 harvested pots had rootballs in them and they counted!!!!!! Yeah right fuck ME! By the time we got to the next place in question. My lawyer was waiting there. He spoke to the detectives and me. Then me alone and then the det. alone. He returned to me and said I should co-operate and speak to them and answer questions. He would nod or shake his head if he didn't want me to answer.

This may sound strange but, I went to school with the guy and introduced him to his now wife in college. I trusted him as he has been exceptional in keeping me OUT of jail/prison in the past. I answered questions about #', where the product went (like they didn't know it was going to the shops) why the split in grow times, etc, etc. All the while I was told I was not under arrest and would not be today. (lawyer said I was going to be arrested when testing of the weed was done in at least 3-4 months and not to worry he had set up something already with the det. (???)
 

Dr. Who

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Then off to my house where they wanted to see in a smaller building with odd looking things coming out of the walls and no real "un-normal" heat readings (hand held FLIR) but, had a central air compressor and a furnace exhaust. (Oh shit)....I opened the door and they were in wonder why it wasn't full but, still had many differing plants and lots of labeled seeds in a work area, in a fridge. They said that this was all, being confiscated (again no lights). Lucky for me they missed the real bulk of my seeds in another mini fridge with beers in it!

Finally this ordeal was over and the lawyer said that he had me co-operate to a point and they promised to file a warrant once the testing was done and that I would simply be processed and released on a PR. I must say it did happen that way....

In the meantime. The lawyer went and spoke directly to the DA as he had been present when I spoke to the DA and township officials on opening and operating a Disp. in that county/township. Itwas agreed that all was ok and I would not be raided or arrested as long as I passed periodic "compliance checks".....He came back and said that my wife was being arrested for her op as she was the caregiver of record on that building. Thing was - that building was NOT over on #'s as it had no "rootballs" waiting to be recovered! He said that she would be hit with "manufacture/delivery" the same as I, but she would get a deal of simple possession and 74/11'nd with 6 months prob. If she completed the prob. The matter was closed and she would have no record of the conviction in her file..

I would get the same short of the 74/11 as I had a prior possession from 8 years before..... The lawyer said the DA was rather "sorry" as he had been ordered to specifically target me and mine from the state AG Schutte's office. He chose the deals made as "Saving us from any "time to serve or Felony conviction that would eliminate us from being caregivers". He said he wished the other shops in his county ran like we did.

I found this as little consolation because my wife was IN compliance. In the end they say it was because she ran all overages to the shop - Braking the "transfer" laws. NOT TO MENTION me being pissed for getting the nod for ROOTBALLS !! That was the listed charge reason in the police reports.....

The only reason the state AG would have had to focus on me was that I had been a vocal testifier on changing the laws BACK to "sane" rules on disp. and growing.....I also fought HARD against the new "legal" grower proposal that would eliminate any "caregiver or home growing" at all and only hand out permits for commercial grows of no less then 500 plants.....The cost to even apply for that was 10K !!!! and it was "nonrefundable" if denied! This all pissed Schutte off that some of us shop owners would be vocal and stand up for what we thought. He cracked all of us that testified first! Then spread it out to all around us! What for?
This guy is nuts!

So, anyway. The wife got the deal and she kicked and screamed about it being unfair to right in front of the judge when he asked if she had anything to say......The whole time the lawyer and I are staring daggers at her! The judge shot back with, "Mrs XXXXXX, if you feel that this charge is unfair we can go back and do it with out the plea deal! She shut up (after saying "No your honor" real sheepish like). Her fine was reasonable one, well less then 1k.

Now on the other hand. While I was beyond pleased with my 6 months probation....I got HAMMERED with a max fine of 2K, 800 court costs, 200 in probation costs and I have to get a substance abuse evaluation at my cost and get "substance abuse" counseling for the term of my probation at my cost! STFW???? I asked why so stiff. He said "You should have known better as you've been charged before. I would have given you 100 days if there was not a little "note" (as he holds it up) from the DA recommending "No time" - fines and costs - 6month prob.

Prob has taken our cards and will return them when we have completed probation. Wife gets 1 drop and I'm on a rotating weekday call in to listen for my "color" to be randomly named to inform me I have to drop.

No smoke and NO GROWING for 6 months. I read a paper in the Prob officers file that he has to inform the det. on when to do a cpl of of compliance checks to be sure nothing is growing in any location...

I got the fuck off easy! I was told that the shops got hit for the same reason and they had to get someone to "flip" and run buys for them from us......you might have seen who I think did this but I'm not to post about that detail! I can say that we have a particular person seen in both shops in one day making buys at about just the time it would take to drive from one to the other......He appears in the other shops security video on another day but again, just about perfect time to drive from one to the other. They got hit on the same day of his visit! I was hit about 4 weeks before those...

That's about it for what I can or want to say about the whole story......

Thanks for all the support!

Fuck the pigs !!
 

kmog33

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Probation is cheap where you are. I did something stupid when I was 18 and probation cost me $8500.


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captainmorgan

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Why not go to trial if you haven't broken any laws?
I would never take a plea deal if I was innocent. It only encourages those a-holes to be more cavalier & careless.
Easy for you to say. The laws,rules and system are set up to railroad anyone they single out if they want unless you have unlimited funds to fight the system. 6 months probation or risk 10 years or more in prison,that's what they count on and why most cases are plea deals.
 

Chunky Stool

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Easy for you to say. The laws,rules and system are set up to railroad anyone they single out if they want unless you have unlimited funds to fight the system. 6 months probation or risk 10 years or more in prison,that's what they count on and why most cases are plea deals.
If less people took the deal, the DA would be more careful. Losing a jury trial is a giant waste of taxpayer money, not to mention the accused!
 

Lionden

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Sorry to hear all of this nonsense Doc!

I'm heading downstairs right now to dispose of my buckets with rootballs in them....!
Ya what the hell rootballs they are crazy, got raided in 2008 one of the first in the mmma program and they weighed the entire plant( that I just watered) pot and all to come up with an inflated total of weight
 

Dr.Pecker

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The cops are the executive branch of government they don't interpret law. They have no business saying rootballs are plants. You got railroaded by the ag because you're a shop owner. Why else would he say no jail? Its because they probably didn't have enough on you to make it stick unless you admitted to guilt by taking the plea deal. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507
 

dazzyballz

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Fuking sneaky pigs man.
I hope everything turns out ok dr.
i thought in the u.s it was legal/decrimanilised but obviously reading your story theres a lot more to it than what i know.
its the dirty pigs still trying to get 1 up on the stoners/med patients it is insane.leave us alone.
i got caught with 1 plant,i got 200 hours community service and £300 fine and a years probation.
 

shorelineOG

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Sounds like they have a weak case or they wouldn't have offered a "good deal". If everyone went to trial and won that would prevent future raids. A deferred probation will still show the arrest on a background check even if you get it sealed, you have to have it expunged to truly clear it. When they give your drug abuse evaluation tell them you have never used weed,drugs or alcohol because they will have you taking A.A., drug class and anger management, parenting class and whatever other bullshit classes they have. Dishonesty is the best policy for the evaluation. The state does not want you guys to go to trial, and these cases are test cases for future enforcement in your state. Jury nullification. If more people served on juries, and more people went to trial they would cease the raids.
 

vostok

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So very different to back east

thankfully no none died

and yeah you got off lightly

but those above you in the dark are of concern

stay close

good luck
 

Corso312

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Was that post from captain sticky a few days about this? You can't honestly think he's working with the pigz...right?
 
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