Rare Dankness: 501st OG HERMIES!!!

Ive been reading good things about Dutch Master Reverse..supposedly stops any male tendencies on female plants when used at the start of flowering. Im thinking about using it preemptively on some RD strains I just started flowering (not just cause its RD, but working with new seed strains in general is stressful because of the herm possibilities). If you didnt wanna trash those thats the only other option I could think of.

Reverse works to a certain extent. If the herm issue is major, it doesn't do anything. Worked for my Sour Kush that had minor herms, but it couldn't touch my Larry. The larry was too bad. I don't even fuck around anymore, if a plant herms on me between 0-7 weeks in flowering, it's gone. Late herms aren't that big of a deal to me. If they don't have time to mature and seed anything, I don't care.

Rare D MI said:

Well after talking to mrs. RD, she confirmed that there were at least 30 test grows of 501st in CO over the last year. No one reported any hermies. She even called a few people today to make sure that they didnt forget to tell them about problems. My 3 friends have not had any problems with 501st, or any other RD gear popped so far. This is most likely an isolated incident. As more grow reports roll in, I'm sure we won't see many more of these problems, if any.

I think she said she was going to contact you about the issue.

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An isolated incident? Alright... Anyway, I'm gonna give it a few days but I'm seeing the exact same growth, in the same exact place on my Scott's OG as well. Unless it's another side branch forming, it's right next to the female calyx/pistil. Very concerned. The venom is under inspection too... Not sure what the hell is going on or if i'm losing my mind. This isn't my first rodeo, and I though I was solid when it comes to spotting this sort of thing. Time will tell. I'll post other pics as well later and try to come to some conclusion.

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This is deja vu almost. I saw a similar thread a few months ago, but it was with Cali Connect genetics. Swerve came on and I could not believe what a douche bag that piece of shit was. As someone that studies business, his logic blew my fucking mind. It got to the point that swerve sent me PM freaking out. lmao. Anyway problem with this thread is that I have grow journals with Ken's Grand daddy Purple and 2 with rare dankness and 2 more rare dankness strains in route to my garden. I will not miss a post of this thread. I believe Rare Dankness has better genetics that Cali Connection and I believe Mrs. RD is absolute top-notch when it comes to customer service and customer support. I am intrigued by 1. The promblem and 2. The solution.

will be following this thread closely.

very closely.

noone noticed that he mentioned his CC tahoe is autoing???

Glad i never gripped them

northwest.GDP.rep said:

An isolated incident? Alright... Anyway, I'm gonna give it a few days but I'm seeing the exact same growth, in the same exact place on my Scott's OG as well. Unless it's another side branch forming, it's right next to the female calyx/pistil. Very concerned. The venom is under inspection too... Not sure what the hell is going on or if i'm losing my mind. This isn't my first rodeo, and I though I was solid when it comes to spotting this sort of thing. Time will tell. I'll post other pics as well later and try to come to some conclusion.

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I wonder if it's Raredankness #1 that's causing this? This is going to suck if all your plants hermie. RD is going to take a big hit if everyones shit hermies.

Rare D MI said:

Well after talking to mrs. RD, she confirmed that there were at least 30 test grows of 501st in CO over the last year. No one reported any hermies. She even called a few people today to make sure that they didnt forget to tell them about problems. My 3 friends have not had any problems with 501st, or any other RD gear popped so far. This is most likely an isolated incident. As more grow reports roll in, I'm sure we won't see many more of these problems, if any.

I think she said she was going to contact you about the issue.

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hmm, the phantom test grows. no disrespect to the Mrs, but this could be the reason why all the people were "complaining" about the lack of grow journals from all these phantom test grows. 30 people tested and not one was documented? i wouldn't be surprise if rd says it's a growers' error.
there are a few grow logs, not that many, going on a couple of boards and all are saying multiple pheno types are showing in a 10 pack, did the test grows show that as well? most people would consider that to be unstable.
i am not bashing but you guys came here pretty hard, fighting tooth and nail- stated how solid these genetics were and even went as far to call people trolls for asking and requesting grow reports/journals.

canna
i thinks that's common knowledge with tcc. even though they said the issue has been cleared, it could easily be an old pack or the issue was never fixed and still exist. hopefully good ol swerve or his other half will chime in and shed some light on us. tbh though i have yet to see anyone of recent with this issue of his latest stock.

Fresh 2 De@th said:

hmm, the phantom test grows. no disrespect to the Mrs, but this could be the reason why all the people were "complaining" about the lack of grow journals from all these phantom test grows. 30 people tested and not one was documented? i wouldn't be surprise if rd says it's a growers' error.
there are a few grow logs, not that many, going on a couple of boards and all are saying multiple pheno types are showing in a 10 pack, did the test grows show that as well? most people would consider that to be unstable.
i am not bashing but you guys came here pretty hard, fighting tooth and nail- stated how solid these genetics were and even went as far to call people trolls for asking and requesting grow reports/journals.

canna
i thinks that's common knowledge with tcc. even though they said the issue has been cleared, it could easily be an old pack or the issue was never fixed and still exist. hopefully good ol swerve or his other half will chime in and shed some light on us. tbh though i have yet to see anyone of recent with this issue of his latest stock.

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Pretty easy to see there is no real testing happening. I think their "testing" is, yeah I grew it and it was good. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that this is nothing but tons of f1s. Taking popular strains and hitting it one time, making a bunch of seeds and tagging it with some kind of name. Takes years to get just one strain consistent. No way they have this many strains uniform, not 1 chance in a million.

Fresh 2 De@th said:

hmm, the phantom test grows. no disrespect to the Mrs, but this could be the reason why all the people were "complaining" about the lack of grow journals from all these phantom test grows. 30 people tested and not one was documented? i wouldn't be surprise if rd says it's a growers' error.
there are a few grow logs, not that many, going on a couple of boards and all are saying multiple pheno types are showing in a 10 pack, did the test grows show that as well? most people would consider that to be unstable.
i am not bashing but you guys came here pretty hard, fighting tooth and nail- stated how solid these genetics were and even went as far to call people trolls for asking and requesting grow reports/journals.

canna
i thinks that's common knowledge with tcc. even though they said the issue has been cleared, it could easily be an old pack or the issue was never fixed and still exist. hopefully good ol swerve or his other half will chime in and shed some light on us. tbh though i have yet to see anyone of recent with this issue of his latest stock.

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as for the part about a lot of pheno's per pack of beans, haven't you ever heard of subcool or tga gentics?? i don' know how many different phen's of that plushberry i have seen.. the pink one, the purple one, the green one, but people eat his shit up.. not me mind you, but people must love unstable polyhybrids today for w/e reasons..

Why do you people think that everyone who grows herb posts their results on the Internet? A small fraction of growers even use any of these sites. I can tell you that of at least 20 friend's in my area that grow, I'm the only one who posts on any sites. Does that mean all grows and test grows they do are invalid? Does it mean any info or experience they have is useless?

The test grows were done by master growers at multiple dispensaries in Colorado. These people are running massive warehouses, and businesses. They don't necessarily have the time or desire to photograph their work so that people all of the world will feel better about buying the seeds they tested. They report to the breeder, share the final product, and that's that.

Where are the test grows for every GHS, DNA, sensi, paradise, thseeds, big Buddha, Barneys, ect. Strain released? Those aren't plastered all over the Internet, yet I see no complaining about it. The hate and criticism is always for the new kid on the block. If Scott didn't win the sativa cup in amsterdam last year, RD would have had a much slower roll out, you would probably all just be finding out about the company now, instead of freaking out that there are no grow reports for a company that just gained notoriety 6 months ago.

Believe me, if anyone involved thought for a second that moonshine haze was going to win the sativa cup in Amsterdam, things would have gone down a lot different. Imagine being in the process of starting a company and getting your product together, and overnight you have one of the most sought after and highly publicized products in an industry.. I think everyone needs to have some patience and not be so cynical. RD is not out to fuck you and fill your garden with hermies.

That's about the sanest post I've read in a while.

Oh here we go...

Rare D MI said:

Why do you people think that everyone who grows herb posts their results on the Internet? A small fraction of growers even use any of these sites.

There are cameras everywhere and in every little thing this day and age. To have almost zero pics is a JOKE to put things lightly.

The test grows were done by master growers at multiple dispensaries in Colorado. These people are running massive warehouses, and businesses. They don't necessarily have the time or desire to photograph their work so that people all of the world will feel better about buying the seeds they tested. They report to the breeder, share the final product, and that's that.

^Again, BULLSHIT.

Where are the test grows for every GHS, DNA, sensi, paradise, thseeds, big Buddha, Barneys, ect. Strain released? Those aren't plastered all over the Internet, yet I see no complaining about it.

Yeah, there are MANY in fact... all over the usual grow forums - here at RIU, ICmag, the Farm, 420mag, MNS, etc.. etc...

I think everyone needs to have some patience and not be so cynical. RD is not out to fuck you and fill your garden with hermies.

^^lol, spoken like a true sales rep! Which by the way, I have noticed since day one of your posting on here. More than a few of us have seen right through your bullshit from the get go, and it's annoying.

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i don't think everyone is just picking on the new kid on the block, if anything it's more so people asked legitimate questions about their op and they were considered trolls and haters.

as for the companies that you mention, you make a very valid point. but on the other hand if you look at the genetics that's in the equation all but dna has nothing of what most people (usa) are seeking. so the demand for logs from them isn't really of concern.
i understand that most people who grow doesn't post on the net, but we're not talking about them. all the master growers that have done these test are not selling seeds and if so not to the extent of mass production. i see pics of dried shots, which i am pretty sure someone took multiple shots and displayed the best pics for the internet to see. i guess no one decided to take pics up until that point, kind of hard to believe.

if i told you i had a pizza shop that rivals or beats out any italian pizza shop in the world, with no one but phantom testers to back my claims, would you pick up the phone on my word alone and buy 5 pies of my pizza? i think not. don't get me wrong it can happen but not without marketing. if that was the case he could of easily did what some do and just sold his seeds without posting/advertising anything on any board. if you need an example go to the tude and check for ultra genetics. i have googled and googled, asked on a few sites and no one has yet to admit of hearing or ordering there gear.

don't get me wrong i am hoping the best for rd or any american based company to succeed, but there's been a lot of false info that has yet to be proven right. if you had testers and none of them tell you or neglect to report that they found a heap of different pheno's in such a small pack, how good are your testers? if someone credible is finding hermies with your stock, does his credibility still holds true? or are these phantom testers infallible to the point that any problem that occurs is an isolated incident?

it's a reason why a lot of top breeders find/use multiple people on the net to do and document gj's. i assume showing stability would be the main reason, but also to see what main traits passes through in the off spring. if someone is looking for something specific and these crosses are not passing it off in the offsprings, how would that serve my purpose of buying your gear? it would be a waste of time, something you'll have yet to understand.

raceboy definitely makes a point, some people love unstable polyhybrids, but some don't and that is where all the bs stems from.

hey JJ, where is your proof that what I say is bullshit? Just cause you say so? If you don't like my answers, don't read them. You're pretty much the only person here that I would call a troll, as you follow every post I make with something negative. I am here to try and help field questions about my friend's seed company, not to be called a liar by some random Internet asshole.

I love how you just disregard the fact that most growers don't use the Internet and just exclaim that cameras being everywhere means there MUST be pictures posted on the Internet. That's retarded. I don't let people into my gardens to take pictures, and I especially wouldn't do that if I don't even use the growing forums myself. Your logic is ridiculous. The majority of people growing weed are clandestine, underground people. Not the kind of people that like photographic evidence of everything they do laying around.

Believe what you want to. It's not my fault or RD's fault that you're not a Colorado medical patient, and haven't been smoking on these strains in multiple dispensaries for the last year. If you were, then maybe you would believe these seeds were tested, but probably not. You are just hating for the sake of hating at this point.

And the "test grows" you talk about from those other sites 90% of the time for the companies I listed are NOT test grows. They are just grows posted on dedicated forums for the company by regular growers. Yes some smaller breeders ship out testers to post up, but arjan and Franco aren't sending out free seeds of every new GHS line and then posting the results online.

You're looking at a company that is just about a year old and expecting it to have the same amount of info available and run exactly the same as companies that have been around 5+ years. That is just an unrealistic expectation to have in ANY industry.

northwest.GDP.rep said:

Well, I really feel it necessary to come back here and say that THERE HAS TO BE MORE THAN ME OUT THERE WITH HERMS!!! This is no isolated incident, that was a low blow. Isolated incident implies that this is a freak event, something OUT OF THE ORDINARY. Oh and RD MI... not trying to be rude, but I make a PRETTY BIG CLAIM, and so far, YOU, a rep, are the only one to come here and say shit? Where's Mrs. RD, or Scott, or Eric at... I met them all and feel they should be the one's here saying something. No offense, but some rep in MI who just became legal has no business here, I want the breeder, or someone who can make this right to come and explain themselves.

PICS ON THE WAY OF SCOTTS AND VENOM.... HERMIE? YOU TELL ME!!!

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Why even post that last part about me if you didn't mean to offend? How do you know when I became legal? Why does where I live have anything to do with my knowledge? Why does my status as a patient or caregiver in my state hold any bearing on this conversation. Like most people, I have been growing longer than there has been a medical law in my state.

Do you have more of a right to speak because WA legalized MMJ before MI?

Should I bring up the fact that you wanted to be in my position with RD in WA, but were rejected? What would you be saying if RD accepted your offer to rep for them? I bet you wouldn't have posted this thread... Just thought everyone should know that.. So all the cards are on the table.

So there you have it full disclosure, the OP of this thread may have hard feelings toward the breeder because he was turned down to be a rep.

Now I don't control Scott or the mrs. I did my part and alerted them of this thread. I cannot make anyone respond or force an issue to be resolved.

Im legal and have never posted a picture, and I believe some of the best growers in the world would never join an internet pot site.

Alot of old school growers are paranoid, and think the DEA is gonna kick their door down at any minute, LOL!

But back on the subject, I haven't seen any problems with my GTH #2, but those are the only pack I popped out of 7 RD strains that I bought. Lets all hope we start hearing good things about RD and no more Hermie shit

And for the record, no one named Eric works for RD, so we are all baffled as to who you bought your seeds from in LA...

I was not in LA, you didn't meet me, and thadoctas name is not Eric. Scott's shirt says errrl on it. Think that's his name?

Of course I talked to people. I stated already that I did.

And again, I don't see why me living in Michigan has anything to do with anything. Just hating to hate. Only people Who are worth a damn live in Cali, Washington or Colorado cause they have had MMJ the longest right? what a joke. Fucking elitist.