Raspberry Cough DWC Grow

Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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Day Nine:
PH: 5.6
RH: 16 :(
Temp: 83 - 77
Height: 5 inches or just about.
Twisting stopped (probably ph being off caused it) all healthy and roots are starting to grow through bottom of net pot and stretch towards the res. Getting a much better air stone this weekend as well as a thermometer for the res.
 
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So I am hoping some of you will give your opinions on this next bit. I cannot decide if I want to veg til they are a foot to a foot and a half top for four main colas and switch to flower. OR to increase yield turn this into a S C R O G grow and set up a net before they get to tall. Never done a scrog grow and im curious to try one. Dunno if I would still top with scrog or just keep bending em. Definitely want the most I can get and I'm thinking scrog would be better since im working with t5 instead of hps this grow. Any and All input much appreciated
 
hughesresearch

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Niko Bellick said:
So I am hoping some of you will give your opinions on this next bit. I cannot decide if I want to veg til they are a foot to a foot and a half top for four main colas and switch to flower. OR to increase yield turn this into a S C R O G grow and set up a net before they get to tall. Never done a scrog grow and im curious to try one. Dunno if I would still top with scrog or just keep bending em. Definitely want the most I can get and I'm thinking scrog would be better since im working with t5 instead of hps this grow. Any and All input much appreciated
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this varies on what you want. personally, while the books may have said 1-1.5' then flower, this was crap to me. sog requires numerous plants or a few grown for a while and ran in and out out a net. the best yield i get, well am expecting is to grow them out, maybe 2-3 months. keep lst'in it then supercrop, while topping whatever seems to be taller than the rest. be aware some strain dont take well to this. the plant i tried this with looks to yield around 3-4oz. one indoor plant. my other method is a sog with clones. i can put a max of 6 per tote and get around .75-1oz each plant depending on my lack of judgement. whats really cool is to grow them to a foot, but keep lst and cutting them, then before you flower cut off anything below the canopy. this makes a 2' plant with, well the one right now has 8 tops, all of which will be main colas.
 
Niko Bellick

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hughesresearch said:
this varies on what you want. personally, while the books may have said 1-1.5' then flower, this was crap to me. sog requires numerous plants or a few grown for a while and ran in and out out a net. the best yield i get, well am expecting is to grow them out, maybe 2-3 months. keep lst'in it then supercrop, while topping whatever seems to be taller than the rest. be aware some strain dont take well to this. the plant i tried this with looks to yield around 3-4oz. one indoor plant. my other method is a sog with clones. i can put a max of 6 per tote and get around .75-1oz each plant depending on my lack of judgement. whats really cool is to grow them to a foot, but keep lst and cutting them, then before you flower cut off anything below the canopy. this makes a 2' plant with, well the one right now has 8 tops, all of which will be main colas.
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ok so you are saying that you think scrog would be better? wanted to do sea of green but space limitations screwed me. or were you saying try veging for two two three months lst and supercrop? i need to read up on supercropping. 3 to 4 oz per plant would be amazing
 
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if space is an issue than no, 3 oz prob not gonna happen, it can, but lets think reality. that one plant is 4' tall and 3' wide. the whole thing thats trying to be accomplished is as much light to as much canopy as possible. rc did take well to topping, but only 4 main tops thru fim. if you have the space width wise id scrog it.
 
Niko Bellick

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hughesresearch said:
if space is an issue than no, 3 oz prob not gonna happen, it can, but lets think reality. that one plant is 4' tall and 3' wide. the whole thing thats trying to be accomplished is as much light to as much canopy as possible. rc did take well to topping, but only 4 main tops thru fim. if you have the space width wise id scrog it.
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hmm closet is bout four feet wide by five feet long and seven feet tall. but since im growing four in one tote i defly cant get em that tall or wide specially with that light. I think yield wise I should go scrog. now how high would you suggest setting the screen ? with scrog do I top and then start training them through the screen? and since they are bent under a screen instead of height am i waiting for the screen to be filled in before flipping to 1212? last but most important how hard is it to change the res out with that screen in place?
 
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i didnt see how big a tote your using, regardless, how close are they to each other with 4 in there. i use 14-18g totes and 4 in one for that strain...prob be ok at 3', there not really bushy. but for the scrog: id set the screen about a foot. there thin stalks, so you could prob do it sooner, but the height of the screen is dependent on if the stalk would snap or not. really you can set the screen now, just have to wait for it to grow tall enough to reach the next square. i havent though of a supercropped screen til now. it may be possible to pinch the stalk to kinda speed up getting it to the next square, but for the entire screen may harm the plant. you dont top at all in scrog. you simply run the plant up and down thru the screen. what happens is the plant gets the max light to all the bud sites, topping might make two heads but theyll prob yield the same, just smaller heads. oh, for the screen alot of people use that nylon or string net mesh they use for tomatos. ideally youd wait for the screen to fill in before switching, as its a sativa dom gene, it does have height growth advantages. changing the res depend on how you built it, or how it comes. i set mine up on some books with a drain on the bottom of the side. i have 8 site totes due to clones and you could prob just cut a hole and put a plug in it to fill it. forget taking the plant out and mixing nutes in the tote, youll have to do it in jugs.
 
Niko Bellick

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hughesresearch said:
i didnt see how big a tote your using, regardless, how close are they to each other with 4 in there. i use 14-18g totes and 4 in one for that strain...prob be ok at 3', there not really bushy. but for the scrog: id set the screen about a foot. there thin stalks, so you could prob do it sooner, but the height of the screen is dependent on if the stalk would snap or not. really you can set the screen now, just have to wait for it to grow tall enough to reach the next square. i havent though of a supercropped screen til now. it may be possible to pinch the stalk to kinda speed up getting it to the next square, but for the entire screen may harm the plant. you dont top at all in scrog. you simply run the plant up and down thru the screen. what happens is the plant gets the max light to all the bud sites, topping might make two heads but theyll prob yield the same, just smaller heads. oh, for the screen alot of people use that nylon or string net mesh they use for tomatos. ideally youd wait for the screen to fill in before switching, as its a sativa dom gene, it does have height growth advantages. changing the res depend on how you built it, or how it comes. i set mine up on some books with a drain on the bottom of the side. i have 8 site totes due to clones and you could prob just cut a hole and put a plug in it to fill it. forget taking the plant out and mixing nutes in the tote, youll have to do it in jugs.
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I fill the tote with ten gallons which isnt full but keeps the level a cpl inches below the net pots so prbly a twelve to 14 gal tote. I was thinking about buying a second tote same size and mixing the nutes in it a day or two before switching so they have time to settle and ph stabilizes and then just slide the old one out and the fresh one in. im looking online but dont wanna order it know of a place that sells the mesh nets in stores?

thanks for all the help btw.
 
hughesresearch

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um if your not looking to buy online, look for a local hydro shop, there bound to have net pots. just google hydro near your area. yea thats about the size im using, just finding it hard to get 14g. walmart used to carry them, not now. k-mart has them for 4 bucks more than an 18g, wtf? the isse with two totes, one for switching, is just that, switching. its a pain. the roots are a mass clump, mine with an air stone stuck in the middle, and having to lift the plant the same height as the res without breaking anything. id put a drain on it now while there still easy to work with. if not, raise the res anyway to help with transitioning. also with scrog, i hate bending down to look at the plants. i wanna spend time with them. keep them higher to view them better and it helps with everything from def diagnosis to res changing to airflow.
 
Niko Bellick

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hughesresearch said:
um if your not looking to buy online, look for a local hydro shop, there bound to have net pots. just google hydro near your area. yea thats about the size im using, just finding it hard to get 14g. walmart used to carry them, not now. k-mart has them for 4 bucks more than an 18g, wtf? the isse with two totes, one for switching, is just that, switching. its a pain. the roots are a mass clump, mine with an air stone stuck in the middle, and having to lift the plant the same height as the res without breaking anything. id put a drain on it now while there still easy to work with. if not, raise the res anyway to help with transitioning. also with scrog, i hate bending down to look at the plants. i wanna spend time with them. keep them higher to view them better and it helps with everything from def diagnosis to res changing to airflow.
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yeah good point I think i will just buy a cpl milk crates and set the tote on top of it so its easier to work with and i wont have to sit on the floor anymore to work with them. Hey posted some pics of em today. looks alright to me. what you think? sunday or monday im going to change out the res and bring the strength of the nutes up abit. also might bring the water level an inch or two closer to the net pots for the roots to reach but not so close they get lazy and stop searching for water. set my timer to feed for two minutes once every three hours gonna see how they like it.
 
Niko Bellick

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Daily boredom update: Set tote on an old coffee table so that it is raised up so as to get to them easier. Ph jumped from 5.5 to 6.6 over night. Anybody have an opinion on why it keeps jumping so much? I don't know if I should just break down and buy a reverse osmosis filter or not.

Temp: 88-73
Rh: 22-16
PH: 5.7
Height: still around five inches but alot more leaf growth and more nodes growing out.
 
Niko Bellick

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hughesresearch said:
i just assume when the ph jumps, its using the nutes from it. dont have anything to back that up tho
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hmm seems like a reasonable theory. So out of four plants they are all healthy except one has a yellow tip on two leaves and a yellow line on two of the leaves. It's the only plant with any issues the other three are growing along just fine. the yellow spots aren't crispy or anything just a light yellow.
 
Niko Bellick

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hughesresearch said:
i just assume when the ph jumps, its using the nutes from it. dont have anything to back that up tho
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Makes sense to me. So out of four plants using the same nutes from the same res getting the exact same conditions as the other three this one plant in the back (a runt mind you) has two leaves with a yellow tip and a little yellow line down two of the leafs. the spots arent crispy at all just weird that only one plant has a problem.
 
hughesresearch

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from the pics i guess you mean those single blade leaves. idk, they always fall off on me after the first true set comes in.
 
Niko Bellick

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hmm well see. I'll post today's pics here in a minute. btw i keep trying to find your grow to check it out where is it good sir?
 
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