Rawn Pawl is not a libertarian. He is a fascist vanguard.

Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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abandonconflict said:
His son, named after Ayn Rand hasn't lost yet. Millions of hipsters continue to be led astray by a dystopian worldview with an oxymoron for a name (anarchocapitalism in case you're retarded) and you think now is the time to just shut up and praise Obama? You don't belong in a political forum. You're clearly not here to debate.
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dude. youre cracked.

YOU call ayn rand's philosophy "anarcho-capitalism" NOBODY ELSE DOES!

it's actually called Objectivism, from the Goal oriented Motivation which drives the philosophy and the actions of the adherents.

Epistemological Crisis: How can I improve my chances of procreating and passing on my genes?

Cartesian Solution: What Is Procreation?
Kantist Solution: Mortify Your Flesh to Purge These Unclean Thoughts From Your Mind.
Marxist Solution: Steal Some Money, or have a bitch brought to you by your secret police.
Chomskyite Solution: This Sweater vest is Fabulous!
Nietzscheian Solution: Commit Yourself To An Asylum and Die In A Padded Cell
Objectivist Solution: Get A Job. If you have a job and it aint gettin it done, Get A Better Job

ohh look, only one of those solutions results in an actual SOLUTION as recognized by normal sensible people.

Objectivism, like the socratic method and paltonic thought results in real actions and real solutions rather than extended navel gazing and more problems.

and thats why modern philosophy despises and hates ayn rand, she makes them obsolete.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Ayn Rand is a bitch. She despised illegals, yet she was one herself! The fuck?

She was an all or nothing.

She also hated the state, except when it benefited her. She was a bitter hack. If I had the opportunity to meet her, I'd do it, just so I could tell her to go fuck herself.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Canna Sylvan said:
Ayn Rand is a bitch. She despised illegals, yet she was one herself! The fuck?

She was an all or nothing.

She also hated the state, except when it benefited her. She was a bitter hack. If I had the opportunity to meet her, I'd do it, just so I could tell her to go fuck herself.
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angry much.

also, thats the info you've been fed by the establishment that despises her most likely.

she was NOT an illegal alien, she came with a visa and became a citizen.
she hated the authoritarian state, but not the state of free men who choose their own leaders
and as i understand it, she enjoyed fucking herself.

she cant be all bad, she had a multi decade fued with William F Buckley and eventually came out on top, which takes some major league brass balls.
shit, when was the last time anybody referenced Buckley?
Ayn Rand is on the lips of her haters every day. if she rustles the left AND the right's jimmies so effectively for so long, she is either a Transcended Level Troll, or a Mad Genius. take your pick.

either way, I Approve.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Doc,

Her visa expired and then the bitch decided she was entitled to stay beyond it. She was just an emo retard. Nathaniel Brandon even wisened up. I'd feel icky if I had fucked her.

I'm not fed anything. Us ENFPs don't get along much with INTJs.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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abandonconflict said:
Insisting that I would support having you share personal property is asinine at this point.
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of course it's asinine.

in your world there is no "personal property" except when it suits your narrative.

when a even a lowly seed can be called a "Means of Production" and thus subjected to "collectivization" there can be no personal property, since any object can be used to make something, and this every object, no matter how insignificant is a "Means of Production" and can be "collectivized" (in a non-hierarchical manner if course) at the whim of whatever you wish to call your council of anarcho-elders who establish the rules and run (in a completely non-hierarchical way) your imagined society.

thats why when asked to provide the details of your "Philosophy" you post silly clips of noam chomsky doubletalking, or change the subject.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Canna Sylvan said:
Doc,

Her visa expired and then the bitch decided she was entitled to stay beyond it. She was just an emo retard. Nathaniel Brandon even wisened up. I'd feel icky if I had fucked her.

I'm not fed anything. Us ENFPs don't get along much with INTJs.
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she became a US citizen in 1931.

she was only an "undocumented worker" for 5 months or so, and NEVER an illegal alien.

also,

ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Dr Kynes said:
of course it's asinine.

in your world there is no "personal property" except when it suits your narrative.

when a even a lowly seed can be called a "Means of Production" and thus subjected to "collectivization" there can be no personal property, since any object can be used to make something, and this every object, no matter how insignificant is a "Means of Production" and can be "collectivized" (in a non-hierarchical manner if course) at the whim of whatever you wish to call your council of anarcho-elders who establish the rules and run (in a completely non-hierarchical way) your imagined society.

thats why when asked to provide the details of your "Philosophy" you post silly clips of noam chomsky doubletalking, or change the subject.
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What you talkin' 'bout Willis? This sums it up:

Nuh uh, the dictionary and historical literature are wrong.

I'm a socialist libertarian.

I am a social democrat.

M&Ms are tyranny.

I don't have to justify my existance.

I'm a free spirit.

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He's a dystopian communist who despises the owners. Somehow the guy who scrubs toilets can magically know engineering, logistics and pays himself. Accounting, marketing and management are useless. They only steal from the hard real workers.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Dr Kynes said:
she became a US citizen in 1931.

she was only an "undocumented worker" for 5 months or so, and NEVER an illegal alien.

also,

ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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H. P. Lovecraft is nearly as bad of a writer as Ayn Rand.

Stephen Crane, H. P. Lovecraft and Ayn Rand would make an alien triple helix DNA monster beyond the likes humanity could ever dream.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Canna Sylvan said:
H. P. Lovecraft is nearly as bad of a writer as Ayn Rand.

Stephen Crane, H. P. Lovecraft and Ayn Rand would make an alien triple helix DNA monster beyond the likes humanity could ever dream.
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Bite Your MouthTentacle!

Lovecraft is awesome!

but yeah, i was never a fan of rand's writing. Harry Potter had better flow.

i preferr Stephen Brust, Robert Jordan, CJ Cherryh and Frank Herbert.

Brust is a motherfucking genius.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Dr Kynes said:
Bite Your MouthTentacle!

Lovecraft is awesome!

but yeah, i was never a fan of rand's writing. Harry Potter had better flow.

i preferr Stephen Brust, Robert Jordan, CJ Cherryh and Frank Herbert.

Brust is a motherfucking genius.
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I don't know if you've heard of her, but my favorite Sci-fi Fantasy writer is Sheri S. Tepper.The only bad thing is her rampant Dworkinism and how Valerie Solanas is one of her heroes. Her True Game trilogy is like D&D meets chess.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Canna Sylvan said:
I don't know if you've heard of her, but my favorite Sci-fi Fantasy writer is Sheri S. Tepper.The only bad thing is her rampant Dworkinism and how Valerie Solanas is one of her heroes. Her True Game trilogy is like D&D meets chess.
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try Santiago, by Mike Resnick.

it doesnt have any bullshit psychosexual overtones, and it's hard to describe besides, Badass!

the first time i saw Cowboy Bebop i expected it to be a Animeization of Santiago, but Cowboy Bebop is just. Not. Cool. Enough.


Read Santiago. you wont regret it.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Canna Sylvan said:
What you talkin' 'bout Willis? This sums it up:

Nuh uh, the dictionary and historical literature are wrong.

I'm a socialist libertarian.

I am a social democrat.

M&Ms are tyranny.

I don't have to justify my existance.

I'm a free spirit.

---

He's a dystopian communist who despises the owners. Somehow the guy who scrubs toilets can magically know engineering, logistics and pays himself. Accounting, marketing and management are useless. They only steal from the hard real workers.
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"One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, 'our side' had captured a crucial word from the enemy. 'Libertari*ans' had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over." ~Murray Rothbard, founder of "American Libertarianism"

Talk about stealing...your vocabulary is noticeably improving as a result of debating with me, you're welcome. Actually, I really don't have a problem with people earning a living, I have a problem with people inheriting a living. It is not "socialist libertarian", we're taking our word back from the liberals.
 
deprave

deprave

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abandonconflict said:
orly?

[video=youtube;fq9Qe67QUmA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9Qe67QUmA[/video]
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ayn rand is objectivist not ancap she believe in a nightwatchmen state, that the state should provide security among other basic services, ancap do not believe the state should exist. You have correctly pinned Dr Keynes as this, Dr Keynes is not an ancap, There is hundreds of quotes you can pull up from ayn rand that are not something an ancap would ever say as it directly contradicts the philosophy.
 
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