Rawn Pawl is not a libertarian. He is a fascist vanguard.
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Finshaggy
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I feel the same about Ron Paul, his voice and demeanor remind me of the robot president from FallOut3, I think if we ever elect Ron Paul, we can just start calling "America": "The Wasteland". He also reminds me of the guy on the Quaker oats box... I feel like he probably thinks dancing is bad, and red is too exciting of a color to be worn as clothing. And lastly, I could see Ron Paul trying to reopen slavery of another race, or children...
deprave
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are you being serious?
DonPepe
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I have yet to see any really solid reasoning that would make Ron a bad prez, or more accurately a worse prez than the one we picked.
The whole election it looked like he was holding out food to starving people while they slapped it away and called him an asshole for showing it to them.
but then again i don't take it as deep as a lot you guys. hell i have google half the words used to describe politicians. But as far as the things he said and his ideas, they seemed pretty reasonable to me. of course that prolly means wouldn't work, or at least that's what our gov seems to want us believe. If you can understand it and the reasoning behind it then it is undoubtedly bad and not working as intended.
The whole election it looked like he was holding out food to starving people while they slapped it away and called him an asshole for showing it to them.
but then again i don't take it as deep as a lot you guys. hell i have google half the words used to describe politicians. But as far as the things he said and his ideas, they seemed pretty reasonable to me. of course that prolly means wouldn't work, or at least that's what our gov seems to want us believe. If you can understand it and the reasoning behind it then it is undoubtedly bad and not working as intended.
Finshaggy
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Yes, very. When I see and hear Ron Paul, that is who I see.
Finshaggy
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Racism alone is bad enough, Ron Paul has racist papers he wrote, and I'm pretty sure published.
Finshaggy
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html Paul helped form the Ron Paul & Associates corporation in 1984, and the now-defunct company, for which he served as president, began publishing newsletters the following year. The monthly publications included Ron Paul’s Freedom Report, the Ron Paul Survival Report, the Ron Paul Political Report and the Ron Paul Investment Letter.
Columnist Jonathan Chait noted in a recent column for New York magazine that statements of racist paranoia appeared regularly in Paul’s newsletters, representing a “consistent ideological theme.”
Many of the derogatory comments came from a 1992 commentary in the Political Report titled “A Special Issue on Racial Terrorism.” The article blames African American men for the L.A. riots, saying, “The criminals who terrorized our cities — in riots and on every non-riot day — are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.”
Another passage from the article tries to explain how the tumult finally ended, saying, “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began.” The writer gives no credit to police, state troopers or soldiers from the National Guard and Army and the Marines who helped end the chaos.
That wasn’t an isolated incident with Paul’s newsletters. A separate article from the Survival Report said, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”
Columnist Jonathan Chait noted in a recent column for New York magazine that statements of racist paranoia appeared regularly in Paul’s newsletters, representing a “consistent ideological theme.”
Many of the derogatory comments came from a 1992 commentary in the Political Report titled “A Special Issue on Racial Terrorism.” The article blames African American men for the L.A. riots, saying, “The criminals who terrorized our cities — in riots and on every non-riot day — are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.”
Another passage from the article tries to explain how the tumult finally ended, saying, “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began.” The writer gives no credit to police, state troopers or soldiers from the National Guard and Army and the Marines who helped end the chaos.
That wasn’t an isolated incident with Paul’s newsletters. A separate article from the Survival Report said, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”
Finshaggy
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The articles contain no bylines and no signatures, just Ron Paul’s name in giant letters on the publications’ mastheads. This leaves a tiny bit of wiggle room for the Texas congressman to defend himself. That’s what he’s done, telling the media he has “no idea” how the inflammatory comments made it into print.
Finshaggy
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What about his ideology. Does that seem pretty reasonable too? And the Jim Crow laws, how about those?
DonPepe
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I will also admit that i do not subscribe to the modern definition of racism, aka everything is racism to someone. and the papers in question, were they not written many years ago? I stopped really following him when it became clear he had no chance and didn't keep up with the accuracy of all the slander. But i don't remember anything too terribly racist in them. I think he made some assumptions about the black community and crime that, while insulting perhaps, were also probably accurate. The slightly racist thing, i would say, was that the same statement could probably be said about every race when you really get down to what is a crime and what is not. He did make some clearly anti-gay comments, but again, at a time when homosexuality was widely recognized as being wrong by the vast majority of the population.Racism alone is bad enough, Ron Paul has racist papers he wrote, and I'm pretty sure published.
90% or America would undoubtedly call all of our first 10 presidents racist and homophobes, and unquestionably they set up and envisioned the best government yet to date by man. Times change and people change as society changes. I won't judge a man's current worth on something he wrote or said during another period of his life, and even another period of history in this country.
Finshaggy
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1) Read the fucking quotes, if you don't call that racism, you must be a bigot 2) Yes, they were written when Ron Paul felt safe sharing his racist ideas.
Finshaggy
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DonPepe
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not to distract from the current conversation but, you of all people should be careful slinging a term like bigot.
Finshaggy
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I'm not slinging SHIT. If you think it is ok to say "Gay people like having AIDS" and "Black people stop looting to pick up their welfare checks" You are a bigot.
kelly4
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Are you saying that they don't stop looting come check time?
Finshaggy
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I'm saying they weren't the only ones looting, and welfare wasn't what stopped the riots, that's racist to say. There were Police, SWAT and National Guards all over the place, I'm pretty sure they were a little more effective than the welfare office.
Canna Sylvan
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Finshaggy,
Go play on the freeway. It'll be the best thing you can do for humanity.
Go play on the freeway. It'll be the best thing you can do for humanity.