ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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I will let you know when I get them up and running, I hope they track actual power but you are right that may not.
What do you use to wirelessly monitor your rez temp?
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What do you use to wirelessly monitor your rez temp?
Distortionist
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I actually use 2 weather weather stations. It supports 8 remote hygrometers, 4 leak detectors, even soil moisture. They have a air quality sensor that is irrelevant to us until they release the new indoor one that can actually monitor co2.
My weather station is an ambient weather ws-2000. I can monitor everything remotely and get alerts and they support IFTTT although I don't use that just yet but most my stuff including my ac and dehumidifier can make use of it. My internet sucks and I don't want to reply on things depending on it so I have not tried that part out yet.
Distortionist
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Here are shots of my setup stuffs smart stuffs
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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So I've managed to get the whole room set up, and am growing q few cycles of lettuce and other vegetables to test the system.
I've built these two buckets to be interchangeable with my 4 main buckets for full sized plants. These tubs double for lettuce and other herbs or for cloning in the future.
I've built these two buckets to be interchangeable with my 4 main buckets for full sized plants. These tubs double for lettuce and other herbs or for cloning in the future.
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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I am more than happy with my RO filter for sure.
$145 is a great price, plus I bought a 5g pressurized storage tank to sit under my sink for drinking water.
I ordered several filters ahead of time, and a inline TDS meter to read the tap water and the water coming out.
That's a good price for your Floats, I wasn't unhappy with the price of mine, esspecially only needing two.
Can't say how excited to say though that I got my $450 Bluelab ph doser for free.
I got it originally for $350 since it had a "damaged box". Well it came, and the box was damaged. It also was missing all my pump hose, so I called up Amazon and asked for new ones. They said they couldn't help me, but 100% refunded my money and said I did not need to return the item
So I ran to Homedepot and picked up some 1/8" HDPE tubing and was good to go.
smokethatkushh
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Nice very nice. Since you spent so much money I'd like to know why you decided to go with L.E.D's since HPS/MH from some companies provides the best spectrum on the market.
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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I have a vivosun 1000w hps/mh but really needed something with a lower power draw and lower hear output.
And I'm not sure why you are knocking LEDs when they have advanced leaps and bounds the past 5 years.
I am 100% happy with the spectrum I'm getting, and my PPFD is quite impressive (especially compared to its electrical draw at only 450 w).
This led will outgrow my 1000w no doubt
smokethatkushh
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Comparing to this https://eyehortilux.com/grow-lights/ceramic-hps/ seems like the best route to go on the market LEDs are good don't get me wrong but if you have the space I'd go eye hortilux all the way do you see this spectrum???? I hear LED's have not so decent yield when you spend so much you could go with a 600 watt MH. Not trying to knock you though, just drumming up constructivr conversation so we can compare and strengthen our areas of knowledge. I'm not to set on the hps either need some constructive pointers
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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Through my research (a lot of very in depth YouTube videos lol) I've found that traditionally, HPS is a for sure, good to go light. It gets the job done, tried and true. BUT LED has came an extreamly long way in terms of efficiency, PPFD, and spectrum. This is why advanced LEDs are no long "blurple". They have learned green is important as well, also it helps with seeing minute issues on the leafs that you can't otherwise see with a yellow or purple light.
The point I'm making, is that LEDS can tailor to custom light spectrums, add in deep reds, Infa red, and UV.
Yield is also based on your light output, and from what I've seen, people just don't get enough LED, or not efficient enough LED, and thats why their yields are compromised. PPFD is an important measurement to compare lights.
As you can see in this map, a 600W HPS might reach 800µmol/(m2s) at its densest point, and then quickly dissipates to 600 at only around 12" from the center.
While my LED can produce over 1500 µmol/(m2s) at its center, and still put out almost 850 3 feet out. All the while producing half the heat, and using 25% less electricity.
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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Check these videos out. He is very smart and has other good videos on his channel
smokethatkushh
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I previously knew the vast majority of this but....
Wow nice to bring that to my attention that's pretty bad on my end my end.. main concern with the LED's was the far red and such but now I see those hps is pretty worthless unless you purchase a bunch I had result from this measurement.https://growace.com/blog/why-is-par-rating-a-big-deal-for-indoor-grow-light-systems/
And I was thinking on my part part grow which the Light would sit in the middle would be.................. perfect of course I'm going to trelis and those outside corners will be badly effected. I'm going to look into the LED I guess I have to save up more money. I think China could do outstanding on LEDS since tech is their thing.
And since the Myth of 500-700 PPFD being optimal I was sold on that. Although I know the sun is 1000-1500 I thought I could even out with it but seems like a waste. Well time to browse some LEDs and compare.
Highly important because I want to max out my area using a trellis.
-I didn't get the information from him at first mainly it was gardening store websites I can't find at the moment the 500-700 PPFD is a bad indication.. I had in my mind since the closet to natural sun was 1500 to mimic that around 800-900 winter
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smokethatkushh
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That's pretty beastly for a 5v5 area I have to look this up and shop around. Also I can't remember someone said their's a slight 3 percent yield in thc remember these plants are limited to their genetics also. All in all 2-3 percent difference isn't big versus yield. but essential oils produced by the blue spectrum is when you decide to vape then smoke.
Overall, the HPS a extreme high valued spectrum which will boast healthier yields and far red. but the trade of between spectrum is unknown. The high level and full level of red is more useable to the crops but it's rated to keep 3ft away which might as well be garbage unless you spend a ton enclosures which ultimately you'd save and do better with led's in the long run.
Conclusion: Unless you smoke a pound a month LED is the clear winner here, your yield wouldn't be as good as the ceramic but to factor heat which would stress your plants 3 foot distance making the PPFD obsolete unless it's a air cooled hood which will eventually run you 1000 dollars. The LED seems better for now.
-Note if you buy a air cooled hood you're unable to tell how much of the spectrum is being filtered out ultimately it could be less then a led.
Wow geez most def not going HPS due to this
saved a bunch of head ache. LED it is!!!! only 500 with air cooled 1000 watt hps.
Overall, the HPS a extreme high valued spectrum which will boast healthier yields and far red. but the trade of between spectrum is unknown. The high level and full level of red is more useable to the crops but it's rated to keep 3ft away which might as well be garbage unless you spend a ton enclosures which ultimately you'd save and do better with led's in the long run.
Conclusion: Unless you smoke a pound a month LED is the clear winner here, your yield wouldn't be as good as the ceramic but to factor heat which would stress your plants 3 foot distance making the PPFD obsolete unless it's a air cooled hood which will eventually run you 1000 dollars. The LED seems better for now.
-Note if you buy a air cooled hood you're unable to tell how much of the spectrum is being filtered out ultimately it could be less then a led.
Wow geez most def not going HPS due to this
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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The LED definitely runs more expensive, but I have seen.plemty of studies showing that HPS vs LED actually doesn't have a significant effect on yield. In fact, since the LEDs produce light at such a high frequency, it can create that more even PPFD map, and also has much better penetration to the lower canopy than a HPS would.
Because of this, you will be hard pressed to find a study using modern LEDs where they can't compete, or even outperform, a HPS.
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smokethatkushh
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True the only question is when I look now is to see if a Chinese LED will do the trick samsung LEDs sound cool but LEDS are just LEDs to me and I think China could do a extremely well job in that area.... Hmmm do I take that plunge?
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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Get what you pay for
Make sure to check ppfd evenly spread, high unit efficiency (umol/J), and good spectrum.
Not all LEDs are created equal
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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smokethatkushh
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Think this the best Chinese brand with a bang on the market going to buy two of these. But this is a small 2x4 foot small grow tnet heaaches-- I'll search in other parts of the forum thanks. https://www.mars-hydro.com/led-grow-light/mars-sp-series-led-grow-light/buy-sp-3000-best-led-grow-lights-for-indoor-plants-sunlike-spectrum-with-ir-uv-for-2x5-mars-hydro-marshydro-led-grow-light-for-sale
Distortionist
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I have a spider farmer SF-4000, I used a Phillips 400 or 600 watt bulb 10 years ago. The SF-4000 seems MUCH brighter, and by factory it is not even set all the way, its a fucking sun if you crank it up. Normally it consumes 450 but I have had it up to 750 cranked up without issues other than overheating my tiny grow room. There is no way anything can beat a modern LED I don't think when it comes to light / watt. Cars are starting to use laser tech, so maybe that. They shine an efficient very small laser on some sort of a diffusing plate that scatters it and turns it into visible light spectrum. I don't know which is more efficient but I would assume cars are switching to it because they produce more light per watt, or maybe just are capable of more brightness than LED in the packaged size, and its not about power.
race winslow
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Noticed that you are using Cultured Solutions nutes. I expect that they are giving you good results without too much maintenance. I just set up this system and will be running the the CS line in it. 13 gal pots and 13 gal res. The light is a Timber VS Fatty with a total of 930 watts, 5 -1750k, 2 - 3k and 2- 4k fixtures. Average color temp is around 2500k. Will be running auto's on my first grow to help me get familiar with the do's and don't-s of the set-up. Have done non-circulating DWC previously. Hope all is running smoothly with your grow.
