Re: Distinguishing 'Hate': JESUS' Hate Compared To Satan's Hate.

crackerboy

Active Member
Ignorance is not something to be ashamed of unless it's willful. I do not ever point out someone's ignorance as a negative quality. It is not your ignorance I despise, but your willingness to defend it, revel in it, rather than have truth conflict with your belief system. What I point out is your lack of understanding the need for correctly evaluating evidence, correctly arguing without using tricks, and the dangers of not recognizing logical mistakes. Those things are elemental in exploring any claim. I have said nothing about the subject except to say it is irrelevant to my points. I have pointed this out already. Do you not read my posts, not understand them, or choose to ignore them for the sake of having ammo for your next response?

I am not trying to discredit your arguments, but your argument style and ability to judge evidence and recognize bias. And it's not 'everyone else', just you; more deceptive language designed to poison the well. I attack you personally because your logic and attitude inspire it. You attack me and others personally in an attempt to undermine arguments. That is the difference between personal abuse and an ad hominem attack. You subtly attack others personally in hopes the idle reader will ignore or discredit evidence. I have so far not commented on any evidence, just your inability to argue evidence fairly.

There is nothing amazing about your trickery; it's in fact quite bland. You are using well understood and well documented tactics. Your trickery lies in disguising misinformation as facts, and subtle suggestions attempting to unfairly discredit the opposition. I've pointed out several of those tricks in this thread, and your attempts to steer the attention away from those are futile. The way you argue the topic is just as relevant as the topic itself.

Difference is, sarcasm has no place in a debate, or in evaluating a claim. Logic is the very foundation of truth. I have confidence that those able to think clearly will see the things I point out and decide for themselves. I link to an explanation of each trick you use. Anyone who cares can read the definition and decide if you are indeed using that trick or not, those who don't care can ignore my posts. Deceit requires tricks, the truth does not. Judging from the lack of support for your ideas in this thread and others, either people don't care or don't agree.

So i've basically restated myself 4 times now. Your brain keeps coming up with excuses so it doesn't have to feel inferior. Oh hes just angry, his mom didn't love him, he doesn't understand the topic; it all amounts to cognitive dissonance. Your brains attempt to distance itself from the shit pile it lives in.

The only one using tricks to divert the attention away from the original discussion is you. YOU are the only one going off topic and trying to divert peoples attention away from the original conversation. What you are doing is a trick in itself and you know it. So back to the ORIGINAL conversation, Jesus is God and was born of a virgin just as Isaiah predicted.
 

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
The only one using tricks to divert the attention away from the original discussion is you. YOU are the only one going off topic and trying to divert peoples attention away from the original conversation. What you are doing is a trick in itself and you know it. So back to the ORIGINAL conversation, Jesus is God and was born of a virgin just as Isaiah predicted.
 

crackerboy

Active Member
The information I posted was solid regardless if you agree with the way I present it. All of the info I posted is historical facts. You can't discredit that. You can critique my personality but you can't refute the facts.
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
The Talmud tells us that Miryam (Mary), was raped by a Roman soldier, and that's how Jesus came to be. Of course, this is certainly not what is written in the New Covenant. The Rabbis obviously made that up. Why? It was designed to keep Jews from checking out the claims of Yeshua being the Messiah because once a Jew hears that Yeshua was conceived illegitimately, they would know that he couldn't be Messiah. The Law of Moses states that no one of illegitimate birth could enter the Assembly of the Lord (Deut. 23:2). How then, could one born like that be Messiah? That's why we know it is a very deliberate falsehood by the Rabbis.2 The prophecy in question states:




The only one using tricks to divert the attention away from the original discussion is you. YOU are the only one going off topic and trying to divert peoples attention away from the original conversation. What you are doing is a trick in itself and you know it. So back to the ORIGINAL conversation, Jesus is God and was born of a virgin just as Isaiah predicted.
I believe this is the circular reasoning Mindphuk spoke of (one example) which you consider a sound argument for the virgin birth? Because the rabbis say Mary was raped so Jesus can't be the Messiah because he's a bastard. Bit "the rabbis obviously made that up". Obvious how? Oh because Jesus is the Messiah. So you start with the position that Jesus is the Messiah therefore he couldn't be the product of rape, so the rabbis were lying because Jesus is the Messiah.
 
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