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Rolla J

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Yeah I'd just ride it out too. I'd hit it with a Lil dose of pk booster one last time if u have any. I'm a ffof soil grower and for that soil prior to planting I'd mix it with some dolomite and perlite. The dolomite will help buffer your ph as well as having calcium and magnesium in he mix. All of what that soil is lacking. Perlite for better soil aeration.
Your cal mag should be a npk rating of 2-0-0. if used alot could helped with the burn. Did you at one point have a nitrogen toxictiy? That could also have led to other nute lockouts.
 

Og grumble

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This lady has been having problems from the start. She popped out of the ground last, and had the seed shell stuck to her. I pulled it off and she stopped growing for a minute but after a couple days she recovered. She has been growing slower then the others and now shes yellowing a bit in spots. More like yellow lines on the veins. And it looks like its only on the new growth. Its an indoor tent grow using a King plus 1500w led. Temps have been between 74-80 during the day but this morning it jumped to 83 before i caught it and fixed it. Night temps are around 68-74. Humidity 25-35 (35 only when im taking steps to raise humidity, being in dry ass colorado) Plenty of airflow/air exchange. Not sure what shes trying to tell me...
 

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Og grumble

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looks hungry to me, and maybe like it needs a little extra Mag
Thanks for your input. That was one of my early thoughts too. But there are 2 other plants next to it both are bigger and doing perfectly fine with everything else the same. One of them is the same strain one isnt. They shouldn't be hungry, the kind soil is really hot. Maybe this girls roots haven't grown down enough yet to tap into the kind soil. The roots werent as established on this one when i transplanted them. Ill try adding some calmag with the next water. I dont wanna fuck anything up tho cuz the kind soil people say to not add anything at all except water.
 

ProductOfCanada

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Hey guys itss been a really long time since I've posted. (Not in this forum)
But im not a seasoned grower and i thought i was doing all right. Until a coworker, someone i trust very much. Told me my plants were in flower and thats why my clones werent taking.
I currently have 2 white widow grown from seed, they've been under 4, 3 foot T5Ho veg lights. I was told to do a feed, feed, water week. So monday would be a feed day, thursday would be a feed day, and saturday would be my water day.my nutrient is at full stregth for the last 6 weeks or so. It was staight water till the plants were about a 10" and i started with a diluted mix. I have never cloned before and want to start a perpetual grow. And i cant recall if my white widow seeds did this before ( though i think they did.) Im also using a HP Promix.Resized_20180324_162751_3704.jpeg Resized_20180324_162722_4265.jpeg Resized_20180324_162746_4870.jpeg
 

Statton420

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Hey all,

Slowly moved a plant in veg under cfl to the outdoors. It’s been topped a few times and seems to be enjoying its time beneath the sun. A few days ago I noticed some weird growth patterns and after having a crazy heat wave with 100% humidity, I’m wondering if stress caused this to happen. I’m also unsure if these are signs of a male.

Unsure how many weeks veg I am but I’m thinking around 6 weeks. It is in a 5 gallon fabric pot growing in VP-420, which is pretty much like a pro-mix i believe. Genetics unknown, and I water every other day depending on the weight of the pot. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

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Roger A. Shrubber

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looks ok to me, sometimes they just don't want to break apical dominence. it still ought to get bushier, and you'll get more, smaller tops instead of a couple of bigger ones
 

Statton420

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looks ok to me, sometimes they just don't want to break apical dominence. it still ought to get bushier, and you'll get more, smaller tops instead of a couple of bigger ones
Ok cool, the other shoots are developing normally so I just thought it seemed weird. I’ll keep an eye on it and grow it regardless of sex as I have also have an indoor garden in week 4 of flower. Thanks Roger!
 

Stink Bug

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Hey all,

Slowly moved a plant in veg under cfl to the outdoors. It’s been topped a few times and seems to be enjoying its time beneath the sun. A few days ago I noticed some weird growth patterns and after having a crazy heat wave with 100% humidity, I’m wondering if stress caused this to happen. I’m also unsure if these are signs of a male.

Unsure how many weeks veg I am but I’m thinking around 6 weeks. It is in a 5 gallon fabric pot growing in VP-420, which is pretty much like a pro-mix i believe. Genetics unknown, and I water every other day depending on the weight of the pot. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Alternating nodes are a sign of maturity. Completely normal.
 

CrymS

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Hello,

I just started growing and this is my first set of seeds. I'm having an issue with drooping leaves. I used Rapid Rooters by GH and a very small amount of Rapid Start (also GH). Planted seeds directly into the RRs and within 36 hours they had popped. I turned the light on an 18/6 at day 4 and kept them in their rapid rooters in an ice tray with a bit of water at the bottom to get the roots to grow down. I've felt like a mother hen and have checked the rapid rooters often, but after about 8 hours into the "day cycle" I've found the Rapid Rooters were nearly bone dry. I've moved the light up to about 21 inches, and kept the temps around 70-77. They're about 3 inches tall, but only have one set of leaves so I've been hesitant about transplanting them to my DWC system. My leaves have continued to droop further and further. I PH my water at 5.5-6, but I'm using RO water still with a little rapid start and I added some CalMag as someone suggested it could be a lack of food in the water. Could someone please just give me a bit of advice, even if it's that I'm screwing up. Thank you!

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Roger A. Shrubber

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rapid rooter stay wet inside too long, i HATE them. you can go ahead and put those in their first pots now that they've cracked. completely cover the rooter in the pot, and water very lightly for a few days, let the roots grow out of the rooter into the pot. if you're using soil with any nutes added, you probably won't need to feed anything for at least ten days to two weeks, then start out around 150 ppm and work up from there. if it doesn't have any nutes added, around day 5 or 6 i'd start with 100 ppm once, then wait for at least a week before you give them any more food.
ah...just saw DWC.....i don't think i'd use rapid rooter in dwc, they'll stay wet forever.......your drooping leaves are caused by the roots being too wet, too long...the outside of those rooters may be dry, but the roots inside of them aren't. i'd quit soaking them at all, spray them down a couple of times a day with a spray bottle, just keep the rooters barely moist, don't make them drip, just keep them from drying out totally.
i wouldn't try to put them in the dwc system till they have some well defined roots coming out of those rooters.
 

CrymS

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rapid rooter stay wet inside too long, i HATE them. you can go ahead and put those in their first pots now that they've cracked. completely cover the rooter in the pot, and water very lightly for a few days, let the roots grow out of the rooter into the pot. if you're using soil with any nutes added, you probably won't need to feed anything for at least ten days to two weeks, then start out around 150 ppm and work up from there. if it doesn't have any nutes added, around day 5 or 6 i'd start with 100 ppm once, then wait for at least a week before you give them any more food.
ah...just saw DWC.....i don't think i'd use rapid rooter in dwc, they'll stay wet forever.......your drooping leaves are caused by the roots being too wet, too long...the outside of those rooters may be dry, but the roots inside of them aren't. i'd quit soaking them at all, spray them down a couple of times a day with a spray bottle, just keep the rooters barely moist, don't make them drip, just keep them from drying out totally.
i wouldn't try to put them in the dwc system till they have some well defined roots coming out of those rooters.
They're starting to show little roots out of the sides, so I suppose it won't be too long, if they don't die, that the roots should be manageable for a transplant. It would probably kill them now if I tried to get them out of the RRs somehow. I'm sure this is how new mothers feel, it's so darned stressful the first time around. Would you recommend rockwool over RRs for a DWC? I watched so many videos and read, but I guess I got these thinking ahead for clones.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond and your tips!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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They're starting to show little roots out of the sides, so I suppose it won't be too long, if they don't die, that the roots should be manageable for a transplant. It would probably kill them now if I tried to get them out of the RRs somehow. I'm sure this is how new mothers feel, it's so darned stressful the first time around. Would you recommend rockwool over RRs for a DWC? I watched so many videos and read, but I guess I got these thinking ahead for clones.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond and your tips!
yeah, don't try to remove them, by now they've started to develop hair roots, and it would destroy them, probly putting the plant into shock.
don't take me as the final authority, a lot of people do use rapid rooter in hydro, with a good rate of success, but there is a steep learning curve to it, and you may lose quite a few before you get the hang of it. rockwool is about the same, honestly, it's all in learning the little things about whatever method you use. i'd soak either one in ph'ed water before i used them, then hold them almost like your going to throw them, and "sling" most of the water out of them. then i wouldn't ever water the whole things again. i would use a dropper and just put a few drops into the center where the seedling is. don't let the whole thing dry out, but i'd never put them directly in water again after the first time.
 
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